DET-GSW Andrew Wiggins for Alec Burks

[vegasaldo]

Golden State Gives: Andrew Wiggins, 2 2nd round picks (2026 from ati, 2028 from atl)
Golden State Receives: Alec Burks and Monte Morris

Detroit Gives: Alec Burks and Monte Morris
Detroit Receives: Andrew Wiggins, 2 2nd round picks (2026 from ati, 2028 from atl)


Why for GSW:
As a Warriors fan, this is a slam dunk for us.

Wiggins is not engaged and we can't win a title with him playing like he is now. This saves a ton of money this season, because of the tax, and going forward. Can someone please explain to me how much we save? I don't really understand the luxury tax. Burks scored 20 points per 36 minutes for the Warriors back in 2019-2020.

Why for Detroit:
Wiggins may play well in a change of scenery. This trade may excite the fanbase and give the fans a reason to watch. If he plays bad this season, he helps the tank. If he plays well, then this trade is a win. This deal is not super risky for Detroit because this season is lost anyway, and Wiggins only has 2 years left after this season. Detroit has issues attracting free agents, and Detroit isn't in the Luxury tax, so Wiggins contract isn't a killer.

I think this deal helps GSW more than Detroit, and maybe they should include more. I would love to hear people's suggestions on how to make this deal work for both teams. I think there is a way to make a deal work because of the extra tax GSW has to pay, while Det has cap space.

Edit: I had to add Monte Morris to make the deal work.

[jscott]

I don’t think acquiring Wiggins excites a fanbase.

[Scoot McGroot]

Golden State Gives: Andrew Wiggins, 2 2nd round picks (2026 from ati, 2028 from atl)
Golden State Receives: Alec Burks

Detroit Gives: Alec Burks
Detroit Receives: Andrew Wiggins, 2 2nd round picks (2026 from ati, 2028 from atl)


Why for GSW:
As a Warriors fan, this is a slam dunk for us.

Wiggins is not engaged and we can't win a title with him playing like he is now. This saves a ton of money this season, because of the tax, and going forward. Can someone please explain to me how much we save? I don't really understand the luxury tax. Burks scored 20 points per 36 minutes for the Warriors back in 2019-2020.

Why for Detroit:
Wiggins may play well in a change of scenery. This trade may excite the fanbase and give the fans a reason to watch. If he plays bad this season, he helps the tank. If he plays well, then this trade is a win. This deal is not super risky for Detroit because this season is lost anyway, and Wiggins only has 2 years left after this season. Detroit has issues attracting free agents, and Detroit isn't in the Luxury tax, so Wiggins contract isn't a killer.

I think this deal helps GSW more than Detroit, and maybe they should include more. I would love to hear people's suggestions on how to make this deal work for both teams. I think there is a way to make a deal work because of the extra tax GSW has to pay, while Det has cap space.

Detroit would have to send out about another $6-7m in salaries to legally match for Wiggins. And with that, a bunch of of the luxury tax savings disappear, too.

[vegasaldo]

I don’t think acquiring Wiggins excites a fanbase.

I agree for the most part. Perhaps I should have used softer phrasing, such as: "Gives them something to talk about." or "Gives them a reason to express hard to justify hope."

Fanbases are often delusional, and they want a fig leaf of the illusion of being able to have hope.

In general, you are right, if you are excited to get Wiggins, you are in bad shape.

[BK_2020]

If the Detroit fanbase is so delusional as to think that Wiggins represents hope, they are delusional enough to think the same for Alec Burks.

[jayjaysee]

Would need to include Morris or Hayes.

Would save GS around 40 million dollars.

Once you send Hayes+2nd to Atlanta or Washington, you’re at 70 million…

But Golden State should be adding talent not saving money. Curry is so good and Dray looks right..

[NW]

Warriors aren’t cap dumping Wiggins. Ownership mandate isn’t to save money, it’s to make the team better.

Also wouldn’t say Wiggins is distt we nagged-especially recently since the Dray/JK/Wiggins frontcourt has got some run. Still defends (though not on 2022 levels) and still has a solid post game on switches.

Wiggins biggest problem is his 3 point shot has disappeared. With Klay’s unfortunate decline and JKs inconsistency from 3, that hurts this offense imo. Much easier to defend when Draymond is your second best 3 point shooter

[gswhoops]

I think Wiggins would be a smart gamble as a reclamation project for the right team. Detroit isn’t that team.

[theBigLip]

I think Wiggins would be a smart gamble as a reclamation project for the right team. Detroit isn’t that team.

I think Detroit would be perfect. They could use a scoring wing. Not sure how they get one. Wiggins is a big risk though - that’s a lot of money if he’s totally checked out

[oldncreaky]

Detroit would need significantly more. Getting 2 SRPs for two playable expiring contracts (Burks and Morris) seems fair, so taking on all of the extra dollars of WIggins contract requires some incentive. Moses Moody perhaps?

As for whether or not Detroit would be the right place for Wiggins to rehab his play/value, advantages include being a lot closer to family (4 hours away) without the glaring lights that would come playing in his hometown of Toronto, and possibly Monty as a coach. Disadvantage would be playing on a team without established leadership or any foreseeable competitive situation, so he'd be likely to coast. I'd take the gamble if and only if the incentive is enough.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Someone hasn't been watching wiggins since drays return.

[Warriors Analyst]

I think Wiggins would be a smart gamble as a reclamation project for the right team. Detroit isn’t that team.

I think Detroit would be perfect. They could use a scoring wing. Not sure how they get one. Wiggins is a big risk though - that’s a lot of money if he’s totally checked out

Wiggins hasn't been a scoring wing in quite some time. With each season he's been on the Warriors, he's been increasingly more reliant on his inconsistent three-point shot. When it's falling, he looks great. When his legs give out on him -- like they did in the Jan - March 2022 stretch where Draymond was hurt -- his percentages tank and because he doesn't attack the rim anymore, he's a pretty useless offensive player.

[7r5ur]

I think Wiggins would be a smart gamble as a reclamation project for the right team. Detroit isn’t that team.

I think Detroit would be perfect. They could use a scoring wing. Not sure how they get one. Wiggins is a big risk though - that’s a lot of money if he’s totally checked out

The only scoring wing in this deal is going to Golden State, unfortunately. Pistons get to foot the bill for Wiggins' "Thanks for the Ring!" contract he got from the Dubs.

[Coxy]

This is awful for the Warriors, no way.

[Billl]

This is a good illustration of when trade value on the open market <> trade value to a particular team. This may be wiggins value on the open market, but I can't see GS moving him for bench players and cap savings.

[zeebneeb]

This is awful for the Warriors, no way.

Well this is certainly an interesting take compared with others in the thread.

[jscott]

This is awful for the Warriors, no way.

Well this is certainly an interesting take compared with others in the thread.

It’s just classic Coxy.

[Coxy]

This is awful for the Warriors, no way.

Well this is certainly an interesting take compared with others in the thread.

It’s just classic Coxy.

How does this make us better? Wigs is having a down year, I get that, however no sane GM should ever trade a guy at his lowest point at his age when he only a couple of seasons ago was close to finals MVP.

This isn't 'classic Coxy', it's a 'classic short sighted idea' once again that involves the Warriors being expected to sell low and get worse on court for some reason. This season is a wash, so we should be looking at moves for next season.

I'd rather wait till Wiggins returns to good form before even entertaining a a trade for him. Shocking, I know, how against the sheeple herd of me.

[jscott]

Well this is certainly an interesting take compared with others in the thread.

It’s just classic Coxy.

How does this make us better? Wigs is having a down year, I get that, however no sane GM should ever trade a guy at his lowest point at his age when he only a couple of seasons ago was close to finals MVP.

This isn't 'classic Coxy', it's a 'classic short sighted idea' once again that involves the Warriors being expected to sell low and get worse on court for some reason. This season is a wash, so we should be looking at moves for next season.

I'd rather wait till Wiggins returns to good form before even entertaining a a trade for him. Shocking, I know, how against the sheeple herd of me.

No. You have a history of overrating GSW players until they are no longer GSW players.

Wiggins sucks. No one wants him.

[killmongrel]

Yeah, Warriors are not salary dumping Wiggins. He'll be on the Warriors past this Thursday.