2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - the calm before the storm

[yosemiteben]

Those are allegations and nothing is stopping Miles from requesting a restraining order to stop her from stalking him.

Hornets fan here just perusing this thread. Just as an fyi, I believe it has been reported that Miles actually did obtain a restraining order - https://www.tmz.com/2022/11/08/miles-bridges-files-restraining-order-from-domestic-violence-accuser/

With the bird rights thing if Charlotte tells his agent they have zero interest in resigning him I could see him OK a trade.

(1) That's extraordinarily unlikely from Charlotte's perspective, we were prepared to give him a max before he had his off court issues, we wanted to sign him last summer and only signed him to the tender offer once we couldn't come to terms on his contract amount and specifically did so to preserve his bird rights so we can sign him this summer. Our FO has signaled all along that they want Bridges back.

(2) Rad username dude, blaze on!

Thanks for the feedback -- so do you think its more unlikely they trade Bridges as they probably will not get the value they want

Keeeeeepppp!! Poundinnnngggg!

I think it's very, very unlikely that we trade Bridges. The only way I can see it happening is if new ownership disagrees with how we've historically treated Miles and they want to turn the page. We have no evidence yet that that is how they're viewing the situation, but who knows.

[SunsRback4Good]

Hornets fan here just perusing this thread. Just as an fyi, I believe it has been reported that Miles actually did obtain a restraining order - https://www.tmz.com/2022/11/08/miles-bridges-files-restraining-order-from-domestic-violence-accuser/


(1) That's extraordinarily unlikely from Charlotte's perspective, we were prepared to give him a max before he had his off court issues, we wanted to sign him last summer and only signed him to the tender offer once we couldn't come to terms on his contract amount and specifically did so to preserve his bird rights so we can sign him this summer. Our FO has signaled all along that they want Bridges back.

(2) Rad username dude, blaze on!

Thanks for the feedback -- so do you think its more unlikely they trade Bridges as they probably will not get the value they want

Keeeeeepppp!! Poundinnnngggg!

I think it's very, very unlikely that we trade Bridges. The only way I can see it happening is if new ownership disagrees with how we've historically treated Miles and they want to turn the page. We have no evidence yet that that is how they're viewing the situation, but who knows.

Would you be inclined to trade Leaky Black for Nasir Little?

[sogood]

Miles Bridges is a piece of **** who should’ve been given jail time.

That being said, he’s still a fringe all-star caliber player. Charlotte isn’t going to give him up for nothing out of the goodness of their heart.

[Stix]

Apparently, the rumored deal is Little + Okogie + 2nd rounders for Miles Bridges.

Looking at it that way, I don't think I would do it if it meant losing Okogie. Unless maybe if Richards is included too with our TE.

[Book1Nation]

Apparently, the rumored deal is Little + Okogie + 2nd rounders for Miles Bridges.

Looking at it that way, I don't think I would do it if it meant losing Okogie. Unless maybe if Richards is included too with our TE.

The TE can't be traded with other players, it would have to be two separate deals.

Besides the Timeline guys shut down Bridges rumors yesterday. Sounds like it's not happening.

[Stix]

Apparently, the rumored deal is Little + Okogie + 2nd rounders for Miles Bridges.

Looking at it that way, I don't think I would do it if it meant losing Okogie. Unless maybe if Richards is included too with our TE.

The TE can't be traded with other players, it would have to be two separate deals.

Besides the Timeline guys shut down Bridges rumors yesterday. Sounds like it's not happening.

Just as well, welcome back Torrey Craig.

[BobbieL]

Apparently, the rumored deal is Little + Okogie + 2nd rounders for Miles Bridges.

Looking at it that way, I don't think I would do it if it meant losing Okogie. Unless maybe if Richards is included too with our TE.

The TE can't be traded with other players, it would have to be two separate deals.

Besides the Timeline guys shut down Bridges rumors yesterday. Sounds like it's not happening.

Who are the Timeline guys? The poster above from Charlotte seemed to think it was a long shot as well

[Book1Nation]

Apparently, the rumored deal is Little + Okogie + 2nd rounders for Miles Bridges.

Looking at it that way, I don't think I would do it if it meant losing Okogie. Unless maybe if Richards is included too with our TE.

The TE can't be traded with other players, it would have to be two separate deals.

Besides the Timeline guys shut down Bridges rumors yesterday. Sounds like it's not happening.

Who are the Timeline guys? The poster above from Charlotte seemed to think it was a long shot as well

Sam Cooper and Mike Vigil. They host The Timeline podcast that's very popular on Suns twitter. Released an episode yesterday about the trade deadline with a bunch of fake trades but also mentioned that Bridges deal is dead.

[SunsRback4Good]

The TE can't be traded with other players, it would have to be two separate deals.

Besides the Timeline guys shut down Bridges rumors yesterday. Sounds like it's not happening.

Who are the Timeline guys? The poster above from Charlotte seemed to think it was a long shot as well

Sam Cooper and Mike Vigil. They host The Timeline podcast that's very popular on Suns twitter. Released an episode yesterday about the trade deadline with a bunch of fake trades but also mentioned that Bridges deal is dead.

Great news!

[WeekapaugGroove]

If the Charlotte poster from earlier is correct and there's even some interest by the Charlotte front office of bringing Bridges back next year then he's definitely not getting traded. No sense in his end to give up his bird rights and it's not like Charlotte would get any sizable offers for him anyway.

I thought the bridges thing was possible if Charlotte was just done with him/his situation and at that point Miles would waive his no trade to get someplace he could try to rehab his image/game for a few months.

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[BobbieL]

Who are the Timeline guys? The poster above from Charlotte seemed to think it was a long shot as well

Sam Cooper and Mike Vigil. They host The Timeline podcast that's very popular on Suns twitter. Released an episode yesterday about the trade deadline with a bunch of fake trades but also mentioned that Bridges deal is dead.

Great news!

I would rather have a broken down PJ tucker than Miles Bridges at this point.

Maybe if he gets through all his court stuff - as I think he has one more at the end of this month, thats one thing. But with that still hanging over - just make a small trade with Little and another contract (Bol) - sign a buyout and go with it

[Book1Nation]

Sam Cooper and Mike Vigil. They host The Timeline podcast that's very popular on Suns twitter. Released an episode yesterday about the trade deadline with a bunch of fake trades but also mentioned that Bridges deal is dead.

Great news!

I would rather have a broken down PJ tucker than Miles Bridges at this point.

Maybe if he gets through all his court stuff - as I think he has one more at the end of this month, thats one thing. But with that still hanging over - just make a small trade with Little and another contract (Bol) - sign a buyout and go with it

Otto Porter could probably be had for free too (slot him into the TPE). And while it's unlikely he stays healthy, Otto Porter could in theory be exactly what this team needs. A lengthy, switchable wing who can shoot.

Then we can trade a couple 2nds for a backup big (Drummond?) and be set.

[Slim Charless]

Great news!

I would rather have a broken down PJ tucker than Miles Bridges at this point.

Maybe if he gets through all his court stuff - as I think he has one more at the end of this month, thats one thing. But with that still hanging over - just make a small trade with Little and another contract (Bol) - sign a buyout and go with it

Otto Porter could probably be had for free too (slot him into the TPE). And while it's unlikely he stays healthy, Otto Porter could in theory be exactly what this team needs. A lengthy, switchable wing who can shoot.

Then we can trade a couple 2nds for a backup big (Drummond?) and be set.

I've long been a fan of the player Grant Williams was on Boston. Wasn't as useful in Dallas, but maybe we can buy low on him or even get a small valued pick to take him off their hands?

If you remember those Celtic teams, Grant was always the toughest guy on the court for that team and plays defense with the kind of effort we always talk about we need...

[RaisingArizona]

Bring in Bridges

[bwgood77]

Yeah, if I'm Charlotte I bring him back. The fans are more likely to forgive him...they have already had him playing, they obviously need talent, etc.

[BobbieL]

Gambo has spoken
Torrey Craig
Saddiq Bey
Otto Porter
and O'Neale

who we getting?

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[bwgood77]

On another note, Kawhi has been a monster this year. I think he should firmly be in the MVP conversation.

He is averaging 24.4/6.3/3.7 which obviously isn't as good as the top tier guys for counting stats (Embiid, Jokic, Giannis, Luka, etc) but he has been a crazy good defender and is near the league leader in steals at 1.7 a game.

But most impressively is his 3pt%, at 45.7% and over a 64% TS%. Splits of 53.3/45.7/89.2. So very close to the 50/40/90 group....not sure there is a 50/45/90 group.

He is definitely the player that scares me most in the playoffs, even more than Jokic. He plays his best in the playoffs, one of the few players that does so, has that refuse to lose mentality, is great on both sides of the ball, and is one of the few guys that can really bother KD and Book.

[dremill24]

Always been a Royce fan... just a super good role player. Can be a good rotation wing or even a 5th starter in the right situation. Never had a salary over 7 figures...type of guy I've looked at for PHX for the last half decade. Just easy to plug into a good team. Hes not getting these sad sacks to the Finals but Im a fan.

[garrick]

The perks of having Beal and being in the 2nd apron.

They were going to be over the second apron with virtually any path this summer outside of simply declining Paul's option. And in that case it's basically this roster with Shamet instead of Beal.

But hey don't let facts get in the way of your narrative.

Also say the suns hadn't traded for KD, well Bridges and Cam combined make as much as KD so again same spot money/apron wise.

Really anything other than the suns going rebuild and shipping guys out they were going to be up against it money wise, that's been the reality since the summer of 22. The question at that point was 'is a core of Booker, Bridges, Cam and Ayton good enough to build around and compete? Because there just wasn't going to be flexibility to add anything but draft picks (most of which don't actually work out) and small salaries. I personally didn't think that was a championship core so that's why I was cool with a drastic move like the KD deal.

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Yeah, I can’t understand why people keep ignoring the fact that CP3+Shamet make as much as Beal and they are MUCH worse as a basketball players. That trade was an steal because Beal is just 30 years old.

CP3 and Shamet were both expiring contracts so I don't think it's as big of a steal as many think it is.

Beal is good now but the real question is how does he hold up the next 4 years as he ages and his contract gets more and more expensive? I think the last year of his deal we are on the hook for 56 million!

This trade can't really be judged just yet, we will need to look back on this in a couple years to see if his massive salary and the inability to get under the 2nd apron was worth it or not.

[dremill24]

Is Naji Marshall available? Hes in a contract year on an expensive team with a lotta wings...