Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24

[playa-hater]

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Yet another reason why we should go hard after Caruso or similar ilk. Jrue should only be playing in mid- to late-30s mpg in the last two rounds.

Parl and I always point out Joe will Burn out the starters.. Then of course people show regular season minutes.. The minutes don't necessarily mean players shouldn't play less.. p p, Hauser or Briisett can easily pick up the slack..

[BK_2020]

Jrue plays 33.4 minutes a game at age 33. That's not unusual. Kawhi plays 34.4 at age 32. PG13 plays 33.9 at age 33. Harden is 34 and plays 34.4 mpg. JImmy Butler is 34 and plays 33.9. KD is 35 and plays 37 mpg. Lebron is 39 and plays 34.9 mpg. Dame plays 35.4.
Al Horford plays very low minutes but that's partly because he's not that effective and he's also 37, not 33. When he was 33 he played 30 mpg and bigs typically play lower minutes.
DDR is 34 and plays 37 mpg. Vucevic is 33 and plays 34 mpg. Curry plays 33.7 mpg.
When older players' minutes drop it's because they suck, not because their coaches don't want to burn them out.

[hugepatsfan]

Eh, can't read into that. If you waived them, the salary they earned so far is immovable dead money on your cap. And you need to have a minimum # of roster spots filled so we'd have had to sign replacements. There'd have been no savings. You'd have the pre-deadline dead money that those guys earned plus the pro rated minimum of their replacements. No savings.

On the other hand, if we dealt them to someone else now, then there is no dead money on the cap for them. So we'd still need to sign guys for the remainder of the year, but we'd save the tax on what those guys earned in the first half.

If you want to save $$$, letting them become guaranteed and then dumping them in a trade is actually the way to do it.

Not sure I buy all of that. If they're dumped in a trade they need to be replaced too.

Only prorated amounts of any new signings will count towards the cap and luxury tax as far as I understand it.

Yup, exactly. If you waive the guy, you have the salary he earned as dead money you get taxed on and then the replacement's salary will also be taxed on. If you dump the guy, there's no dead money charge to be taxed on anymore.

[Sweet Serenity]

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Yet another reason why we should go hard after Caruso or similar ilk. Jrue should only be playing in mid- to late-30s mpg in the last two rounds.

Parl and I always point out Joe will Burn out the starters.. Then of course people show regular season minutes.. They are minutes don't necessarily mean players shouldn't play less.. The sidepot p p, Hauser or Briisett can easily pick up the slack..

Tatum - 35.7
Brown - 33.2
Holiday - 33.4
White - 32
Porzingis - 29.7

What the hell are you on about ?

[playa-hater]

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Yet another reason why we should go hard after Caruso or similar ilk. Jrue should only be playing in mid- to late-30s mpg in the last two rounds.

Parl and I always point out Joe will Burn out the starters.. Then of course people show regular season minutes.. They are minutes don't necessarily mean players shouldn't play less.. The sidepot p p, Hauser or Briisett can easily pick up the slack..

Tatum - 35.7
Brown - 33.2
Holiday - 33.4
White - 32
Porzingis - 29.7

What the hell are you on about ?

Those numbers are so deceiving they go down because boston has blowouts.. What if a game is tight? Those players play Closer to 40?

And certainly j r u e should be playing less.

[BK_2020]

Parl and I always point out Joe will Burn out the starters.. Then of course people show regular season minutes.. They are minutes don't necessarily mean players shouldn't play less.. The sidepot p p, Hauser or Briisett can easily pick up the slack..

Tatum - 35.7
Brown - 33.2
Holiday - 33.4
White - 32
Porzingis - 29.7

What the hell are you on about ?

Those numbers are so deceiving they go down because boston has blowouts.. What if a game is tight? Those players play Closer to 40?

It's not deceiving because Boston is not the only team in the league to ever have blowouts. Compared to the league, our starters aren't playing large minutes.

[Sweet Serenity]

Parl and I always point out Joe will Burn out the starters.. Then of course people show regular season minutes.. They are minutes don't necessarily mean players shouldn't play less.. The sidepot p p, Hauser or Briisett can easily pick up the slack..

Tatum - 35.7
Brown - 33.2
Holiday - 33.4
White - 32
Porzingis - 29.7

What the hell are you on about ?

Those numbers are so deceiving they go down because boston has blowouts.. What if a game is tight? Those players play Closer to 40?

And certainly j r u e should be playing less.

Yes because I like the rest of us on here like winning games lol
Plus you need those type of games to prepare for the playoffs.

[playa-hater]

Tatum - 35.7
Brown - 33.2
Holiday - 33.4
White - 32
Porzingis - 29.7

What the hell are you on about ?

Those numbers are so deceiving they go down because boston has blowouts.. What if a game is tight? Those players play Closer to 40?

It's not deceiving because Boston is not the only team in the league to ever have blowouts. Compared to the league, our starters aren't playing large minutes.

Let's also keep in mind. Players like tatum and brown go very deep in the playoffs.. As well as a l.. Even j r u e.. I believe Tatum has played more minutes than anyone. The last three years easyif playoffs are included. They are off season is far less rest..

[zoyathedestroya]

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[zoyathedestroya]

Pretty surprised there hasn't been any trade yet

OG, Bruce Brown/Siakam, Gallo/Muscala/Bagley, Rozier/Lowry, etc.

[Sweet Serenity]

Those numbers are so deceiving they go down because boston has blowouts.. What if a game is tight? Those players play Closer to 40?

It's not deceiving because Boston is not the only team in the league to ever have blowouts. Compared to the league, our starters aren't playing large minutes.

Let's also keep in mind. Players like tatum and brown go very deep in the playoffs.. As well as a l.. Even j r u e.. I believe Tatum has played more minutes than anyone. The last three years easyif playoffs are included. They are off season is far less rest..

That’s because Tatum has played the most games out of anyone else lol

[playa-hater]

Tatum - 35.7
Brown - 33.2
Holiday - 33.4
White - 32
Porzingis - 29.7

What the hell are you on about ?

Those numbers are so deceiving they go down because boston has blowouts.. What if a game is tight? Those players play Closer to 40?

And certainly j r u e should be playing less.

Yes because I like the rest of us on here like winning games lol
Plus you need those type of games to prepare for the playoffs.

So you assume we would be losing games if some of our star is played a few less minutes each.

For all we know they might be winning even easy..

Tatum and brown , especially and definitely a l burnt out last year or at least appear.. But hey let's win regular season games again..

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So you say he's 27, locked up on a long term, team-friendly contract, fits the TPE and is on a team that is going nowhere so should have no problem trading him for picks?

I'm listening..

[KillahGhostface]

Fischer

Elsewhere atop the Eastern Conference, Boston has been weighing various options who could deepen the Celtics’ bench, according to league sources. Boston will likely be limited to adding pieces through its $6.25 million traded-player exception with which the Celtics could bring on a veteran target such as Otto Porter Jr., sources said. Another name on Boston’s radar: Nets guard Lonnie Walker, who’s generated a wealth of interest from playoff teams while playing well on a minimum contract, sources said.

[playa-hater]

It's not deceiving because Boston is not the only team in the league to ever have blowouts. Compared to the league, our starters aren't playing large minutes.

Let's also keep in mind. Players like tatum and brown go very deep in the playoffs.. As well as a l.. Even j r u e.. I believe Tatum has played more minutes than anyone. The last three years easyif playoffs are included. They are off season is far less rest..

That’s because Tatum has played the most games out of anyone else lol

Which is why he needs more rest.. Unless you want to have some sort of regular season title.. I want eighteen.. And burning him out before the playoffs will give us less of a chance..

[Sweet Serenity]

Those numbers are so deceiving they go down because boston has blowouts.. What if a game is tight? Those players play Closer to 40?

And certainly j r u e should be playing less.

Yes because I like the rest of us on here like winning games lol
Plus you need those type of games to prepare for the playoffs.

So you assume we would be losing games if some of our star is played a few less minutes each.

For all we know they might be winning even easy..

Tatum and brown , especially and definitely a l burnt out last year or at least appear.. But hey let's win regular season games again..

Dude it shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend.
Because of all the blowouts we have the luxury of playing our starters heavy minutes in certain games. It also gets their bodies prepared playoff like minutes.

You forgetting a couple of years ago when Bud was playing Giannis 30 monutes & it ended up costing them in the playoffs when Giannis was cooked at the end of games because he didn’t prepare his body for it.

[playa-hater]

Fischer

Elsewhere atop the Eastern Conference, Boston has been weighing various options who could deepen the Celtics’ bench, according to league sources. Boston will likely be limited to adding pieces through its $6.25 million traded-player exception with which the Celtics could bring on a veteran target such as Otto Porter Jr., sources said. Another name on Boston’s radar: Nets guard Lonnie Walker, who’s generated a wealth of interest from playoff teams while playing well on a minimum contract, sources said.

This is because brad loves to read my posts..

[playa-hater]

Yes because I like the rest of us on here like winning games lol
Plus you need those type of games to prepare for the playoffs.

So you assume we would be losing games if some of our star is played a few less minutes each.

For all we know they might be winning even easy..

Tatum and brown , especially and definitely a l burnt out last year or at least appear.. But hey let's win regular season games again..

Dude it shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend.
Because of all the blowouts we have the luxury of playing our starters heavy minutes in certain games. It also gets their bodies prepared playoff like minutes.

You forgetting a couple of years ago when Bud was playing Giannis 30 monutes & it ended up costing them in the playoffs when Giannis was cooked at the end of games because he didn’t prepare his body for it.

Ironically bud and giannis actually won a title in the last couple.. We have one in thirty eight.. So our formula hasn't won ****.

[Memokerobi]

Pretty surprised there hasn't been any trade yet

OG, Bruce Brown/Siakam, Gallo/Muscala/Bagley, Rozier/Lowry, etc.

Yeah, I meant this week as usually there is action leading up to the deadline but fair

[fallguy]

We're managing minutes (and rest games) really well this year.

I'm also happy for Al to take a couple of weeks off somewhere if he wants.