iggymcfrack wrote:I will sing this everyday till the cows come home. Only 8 guys have won 3 MVPs. Look at the list and ask yourself do you really think they want to add Joker to that list. Plus he's not even 30
You really think that people have a problem putting Jokić on a list with Moses, Larry, and Magic after last year? I feel like about half of people would have Joker ahead of Moses all-time already.[/quote]
Yeah so just chiming in:
I think voters were reluctant to give Jokic a 3rd MVP while they still thought of him as someone who might get classified as a "regular season wonder", but after his dominant performance leading his team to the chip I don't think there's any such reluctance. Similarly, I think MVP voters would have been happy to give Giannis a 3rd MVP in any season after he won his championship.
In general, a lot of what gets lumped into "voter fatigue" is just players not chasing regular season accolades once they reach a point where their legacy can only be improved through playoff performance.
Now, I do think there is a general truth that voters are slightly more likely to favor the guy who has gotten less love previously, and this could favor SGA slightly, but I don't think we're going to see anything like last year where voters abandoned Jokic once major pressure got applied by Embiid-related forces.
Last, it should be acknowledge that Jokic and the Nuggets coasting at the end of the year was part of the story last year, and that could happen again this year whereas I don't see SGA and the Thunder doing this. This relates to why I'd see Shai as a slight favorite right now over Jokic.