2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

[Mark_83]

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Ivisic is my choice at the Pacers pick if he's still there. I fear he may go higher though if he gets actual playing time. I may take him at 6 depending on who's there still.

His draft stock seems to be all over the place, especially considering that he hasn't played much for Kentucky this year, so teams are going to have to mostly go off of information that they had on him in Europe, if they scouted him there.

But all it takes is one team to take a chance at the tail end of the lottery.

I'd agree, though. If he's there with the Indiana pick, I'd definitely take a long look at drafting him. He'll need a lot of time to develop, but it looks like he's got the combination of the two things that are often hard to find in a center - shotblocking and 3-pt shooting.

Top 6 might be a bit of a stretch at this point, but it'll all come down to individual workouts (and if he stays in the draft) to see if he might be worthy of a pick that high.

To be fair Kelel Ware also does these things right now and has done it over a larger sample. What separates Z imo is despite his frame he's got the necessary assertiveness and aggression to his game that will help him get the most out of those skills/tools. I'm not a big fan of gentle or soft giants in my big men as they tend to disappear when things get physical. The only exceptions I can think of are Tim Duncan and Hakeem.

[God Squad]

It's pretty hard to ignore a 6'8 guy with a 7'1 wingspan who currently is averaging 5.2 blks and 3.8 steals per 100 possessions as a soph.

Dunn's going to go high imo.

I'd probably take him with the Pacers pick, especially if he shows anything in terms of shooting at the combine.

[God Squad]

How do people feel about Castle? I think was worried when he returned from injury, but I think I'm becoming a fan.

[aminiaturebuddha]

Ivisic is my choice at the Pacers pick if he's still there. I fear he may go higher though if he gets actual playing time. I may take him at 6 depending on who's there still.

His draft stock seems to be all over the place, especially considering that he hasn't played much for Kentucky this year, so teams are going to have to mostly go off of information that they had on him in Europe, if they scouted him there.

But all it takes is one team to take a chance at the tail end of the lottery.

I'd agree, though. If he's there with the Indiana pick, I'd definitely take a long look at drafting him. He'll need a lot of time to develop, but it looks like he's got the combination of the two things that are often hard to find in a center - shotblocking and 3-pt shooting.

Top 6 might be a bit of a stretch at this point, but it'll all come down to individual workouts (and if he stays in the draft) to see if he might be worthy of a pick that high.

To be fair Kelel Ware also does these things right now and has done it over a larger sample. What separates Z imo is despite his frame he's got the necessary assertiveness and aggression to his game that will help him get the most out of those skills/tools. I'm not a big fan of gentle or soft giants in my big men as they tend to disappear when things get physical. The only exceptions I can think of are Tim Duncan and Hakeem.

Yep, agreed. He seems to really fight inside.

On Ware, I'm still not 100% sold on his shot yet. You could even say I'm a bit "wary" (ok, I'll see myself out).

He's had success this year, but it's on fairly small sample size, especially considering that he's shooting less than 70% from the FT line. And he didn't shoot the 3 very well last year. He'll probably get there eventually, but I'm not sure it's something I'd really count on for a couple of years.

I guess with Ivisic we're dealing with a small sample size as well, but he seems to have been fairly comfortable and consistent with the outside shot at SC Derby in Europe.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

How do people feel about Castle? I think was worried when he returned from injury, but I think I'm becoming a fan.

I see him as a physical slashing SG with good upside to become a quality 2 way role playing starter.

[God Squad]

How do people feel about Castle? I think was worried when he returned from injury, but I think I'm becoming a fan.

I see him as a physical slashing SG with good upside to become a quality 2 way role playing starter.

Good
- Good slasher/getting down hill
- Good defender/point of attack
- playmaking chops

Other than the shooting being a mixed bag (which doesn't look broken), I'm not sure what's not to like. Especially for a freshman playing at UConn.

[Thaddy]

If the draft was today. The pick would be and should be Ivisic. If you have two 7 footers and Barnes it gives you enough size to go with two guards.

I'd drop a large amount of money on a aging ex all star like Thompson to help lead the vets in the off season, maybe even consolidate some picks.

Poeltl
Ivisic
Barnes
Barrett
IQ

Funnel the opposition into the paint against two 7+ footers. I'd use Barnes as a free safety on defense. The weakest link here would be Barrett. I would look for another guard to replace him with and try to sell for high value. We need a better shooter in his position.

[Mark_83]

My dream draft right now:

Our pick) Risacher/Williams/Sarr
Pacers) Ivisic
Okc pick) Ajinca
Det pick) Chomche/Carter/Holmes

[ItsDanger]

https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article285145112.html

"As Big Z sat, his coaches said he was too far behind — both defensively and just plain in general — to be trusted with meaningful minutes in the thick of the SEC schedule."

[Mark_83]

https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-basketball-men/article285145112.html

"As Big Z sat, his coaches said he was too far behind — both defensively and just plain in general — to be trusted with meaningful minutes in the thick of the SEC schedule."

“He was far behind because he wasn’t practicing,” Calipari declared. “If you want to know what they were, there were like nine different things. Things that I didn’t even realize could happen. And, I just (said), ‘Kid, do you ever want to play here? Well, you’re gonna have to practice.’ He had his best practice yesterday. So now he’s all excited. Yeah, that’s how this works!”

[Jstock12]

What Risacher is doing on a top Eurocup team is more impressive than what Sengun was doing in Europe. I don't know about Risacher's ceiling, but his floor is certainly very high and he'll be able to contribute to winning basketball in the NBA immediately. Could be the Franz Wagner of this draft. The Spurs are in a great position to pair Wemby with either Risacher or Sarr.

The Turkish league is probably similar to the French league, although it has better defense and less offense. The Turkish league also had the best or second best team in all of Europe that year Sengun played and that team knocked Sengun's team out of the playoffs that year.
Sengun was 4 months younger at the same time as Risacher and averaged per 36: 24.4pts, 11.9 rebounds, 3.2 assists, 1.7 steals, 2.1 blocks, while shooting 64.6% from the field.

Risacher in a worse defense league per 36 is 16.4,5.8,1.6,1.7,0.6, while shooting 46.7%.

I understand Sengun took only 1 3 pointer per 36 as opposed to 5.4, but I couldn't find TS%. Either way Risacher is not within sniffing distance of Sengun in terms of impressiveness in Europe.

I'm not talking about the French league. I'm talking about the EuroCup (not to be confused with the low level FIBA Europe Cup that Sengun's Besiktas was in). Eurocup is 2nd best international competition in Europe after the Euroleague. Risacher is doing fantastic in it. Meanwhile, Sengun was playing in the FIBA Europe Cup (which is like the 5th in strength international competition in Europe) and the Turkish league that has 2 good euroleague teams, and the rest are complete garbage that Sengun was statpadding against.

[WuTang_CMB]

How do people feel about Castle? I think was worried when he returned from injury, but I think I'm becoming a fan.

"Dog" is the consensus word atm

[Thaddy]

Unless we're in the top 3 we aren't getting CWill, Risacher, or Sarr. I wouldn't want Sarr anyways he looks the most likely to bust.

The targets should be Topic, Ivisic, or Salaun. Then with the Pacers pick I'd take a chance on Missi. Later in the draft PJ Hall.

We should stock up on skilled bigs this draft. I would look to turn Dick, Barnes, IQ, and Barret into our main guards.

[Kevin Willis]

Personally I would draft Ulrich Chomche with the IND pick.

I know some may say that’s too early but I don’t think he’s making it to the end of the 1st round. Quite frankly it wouldn’t shock me if Presti rolled the dice on him with one of his picks before us.

I know it’s somewhat of a gamble but if you connect on it you can see Chomche has the physical tools and good awareness to be a really good rim protector/lane intimidation with some signs of being able to shoot. But if you develop him anything near some of the players of our recent past (OG, Pascal - I know UC isn’t a wing but I think he could be a high impact player ) , he could be a serious steal if developed right.

I've had sushi that was less raw than Chomche. If we want rawness with some skills go for Hansen Yang. At least he has performed in a professional league (A weak one but still...). He's 18 yrs old.

[Psubs]

Personally I would draft Ulrich Chomche with the IND pick.

I know some may say that’s too early but I don’t think he’s making it to the end of the 1st round. Quite frankly it wouldn’t shock me if Presti rolled the dice on him with one of his picks before us.

I know it’s somewhat of a gamble but if you connect on it you can see Chomche has the physical tools and good awareness to be a really good rim protector/lane intimidation with some signs of being able to shoot. But if you develop him anything near some of the players of our recent past (OG, Pascal - I know UC isn’t a wing but I think he could be a high impact player ) , he could be a serious steal if developed right.

I've had sushi that was less raw than Chomche. If we want rawness with some skills go for Hansen Yang. At least he has performed in a professional league (A weak one but still...). He's 18 yrs old.

Right! Maybe at #31 to get his rights. At most the LAC 1st pick.

[grant101]

Personally I would draft Ulrich Chomche with the IND pick.

I know some may say that’s too early but I don’t think he’s making it to the end of the 1st round. Quite frankly it wouldn’t shock me if Presti rolled the dice on him with one of his picks before us.

I know it’s somewhat of a gamble but if you connect on it you can see Chomche has the physical tools and good awareness to be a really good rim protector/lane intimidation with some signs of being able to shoot. But if you develop him anything near some of the players of our recent past (OG, Pascal - I know UC isn’t a wing but I think he could be a high impact player ) , he could be a serious steal if developed right.

I've had sushi that was less raw than Chomche. If we want rawness with some skills go for Hansen Yang. At least he has performed in a professional league (A weak one but still...). He's 18 yrs old.

In fairness, his measurables, athleticism and highlight reel are impressive. But, watch him play or a few minutes and it's jarring how raw he is and how bad his touch and decision making are at the moment. The games from which those reels were drawn are all on youtube

[Indeed]

Personally I would draft Ulrich Chomche with the IND pick.

I know some may say that’s too early but I don’t think he’s making it to the end of the 1st round. Quite frankly it wouldn’t shock me if Presti rolled the dice on him with one of his picks before us.

I know it’s somewhat of a gamble but if you connect on it you can see Chomche has the physical tools and good awareness to be a really good rim protector/lane intimidation with some signs of being able to shoot. But if you develop him anything near some of the players of our recent past (OG, Pascal - I know UC isn’t a wing but I think he could be a high impact player ) , he could be a serious steal if developed right.

I've had sushi that was less raw than Chomche. If we want rawness with some skills go for Hansen Yang. At least he has performed in a professional league (A weak one but still...). He's 18 yrs old.

In fairness, his measurables, athleticism and highlight reel are impressive. But, watch him play or a few minutes and it's jarring how raw he is and how bad his touch and decision making are at the moment. The games from which those reels were drawn are all on youtube

Perhaps this is one reason we draft someone with the high 2nd pick, and we can decide if he gets a two-way contract instead of the regular contract.

Maybe the mid-1st would be for someone who is more ready, so that we don't pay half the MLE for a G-League player over their contract.

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Isn't even being mocked in 2nd round right now but I see an NBA energy bench 4 or small ball 5. He has too much working for him to not be discussed as a potential mid-late 2nd rounder - efficiency - age - ability to add onto frame - 3 ball potential.

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To be fair Kelel Ware also does these things right now and has done it over a larger sample. What separates Z imo is despite his frame he's got the necessary assertiveness and aggression to his game that will help him get the most out of those skills/tools. I'm not a big fan of gentle or soft giants in my big men as they tend to disappear when things get physical. The only exceptions I can think of are Tim Duncan and Hakeem.

You think Ivisic can improve on his Hoffa-level fouling? It's been a problem in his international games too. Supposedly it's because he has a poor feel for the game defensively.

I can't think of any players at the moment who had such a high foul rate and lasted in the NBA