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Re: Trade/F.A. Thread 2023-24, con't – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#521 » by Dogen » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:19 pm

I'm in the mood for some Moody.

Let's stick with the biblical theme, bringing Moses along with Xavier.
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Re: Trade/F.A. Thread 2023-24, con't – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#522 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:19 pm

Shak_Celts wrote:My gut says we’re done.

Celtics still have the full $6.2 million TPE. I doubt it.
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Post#523 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:21 pm

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Parliament10 wrote:Are you sure?

$1,930,681 = Tillman.
$1,836,090 = Jackson TPE.


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Yes. 2nd apron teams don't qualify according to reports.

We're not a 2nd Apron, until the New Season kicks in though, right?

I think that Brad took Tillman, cause he just fits into the Jackson TPE.
Not sure if the 2 x 2nds are/were necessary?

There are multiple reports that say Tillman cannot fit into the Jackson TPE which is why the Celtics included Stevens. Just review the last 10 pages.
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Post#524 » by KillahGhostface » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:22 pm

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Simone would be replacement minutes over Svi/Oshae/Stevens/Banton, not Hauser.


Hauser DRB% 13.0
Fontecchio DRB% 11.5

Fontecchio is a better playmaker, but not by much. Both aren't very good in this area (H 6.5 Asst%, F 8.5 Assit%)

Hauser is better at threes based on attempts per 100 possessions.

That Hauser is 2y younger means he's got a higher ceiling.

Walsh is an extremely raw player with long arms who has elite defensive skills and has shown flashes of 3pt shooting and elite playmaking skills. His development is purely mental. He'll pass up open shots to a point that it will earn him a trip to the bench. He'll have slips in his shooting mechanics that result in bricks. That his ceiling is sky high isn't a matter of opinion. He could be a stud or a bust. That said, there's no doubt that Dunn and Olynyk are as good as they're going to be.

I'm not really sure why you bothered typing all of that since this is a moot point now.


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Post#525 » by Bill Lumbergh » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:22 pm

I like that Brad doesn't wait until the last minute to get his business done. Less chance of anything rash happening.
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Post#526 » by Dogen » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:23 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:My gut says we’re done.

Celtics still have the full $6.2 million TPE. I doubt it.


My gut feels nausea about leaving 6.2M on the table.

I'm jones'n for one more player, wing help, and will be content.
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Post#527 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:25 pm

Hal14 wrote:Updated list of guys in recent trade rumors involving Boston:
Lonnie Walker IV
Otto Porter Jr
Kelly Olynyk
Andre Drummond
Delon Wright
Jae'Sean Tate
Chris Boucher
John Konchar
Isaiah Stewart
Cedi Osman
Naji Marshall

List of guys who people on here have mentioned as possible targets they'd like to see us try and get:
Alex Caruso
Corey Kispert
Saddiq Bey
Torrey Craig
Moses Moody
Jonathan Kuminga
Quentin Grimes
Santi Aldama
Nick Richards
Jevon Carter
Dean Wade
Taurean Prince
Aaron Wiggins
Royce O'Neal
Dario Saric
Kenrich Williams

Still plenty of options, even with Fontecchio off the board..


LOL, so much for the rumor mill. I didn't see a Xavier in any of the lists on this thread, not even Xavier Cugat.
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Re: Trade/F.A. Thread 2023-24, con't – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET) 

Post#528 » by Shak_Celts » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:25 pm

Ok. My source says we are done as far as trades. :lol:
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Post#529 » by Parliament10 » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:26 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Yes. 2nd apron teams don't qualify according to reports.

We're not a 2nd Apron, until the New Season kicks in though, right?

I think that Brad took Tillman, cause he just fits into the Jackson TPE.
Not sure if the 2 x 2nds are/were necessary?

There are multiple reports that say Tillman cannot fit into the Jackson TPE which is why the Celtics included Stevens. Just review the last 10 pages.

I'm not buying it. -- When all is said and done, we'll see that Brad Stevens used the Jackson TPE.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/transactions-rumors/celtics-strike-deal-for-grizzlies-center#gid=ci02d56a385000268c&pid=usatsi_21811184
The newest Celtic is on an expiring $1.9 million contract, meaning he fits into their $1.8 million Justin Jackson traded player exception (TPE). Teams can use a TPE to absorb a salary up to $100 thousand more than its value.
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Post#530 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:30 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:We're not a 2nd Apron, until the New Season kicks in though, right?

I think that Brad took Tillman, cause he just fits into the Jackson TPE.
Not sure if the 2 x 2nds are/were necessary?

There are multiple reports that say Tillman cannot fit into the Jackson TPE which is why the Celtics included Stevens. Just review the last 10 pages.

I'm not buying it. -- When all is said and done, we'll see that Brad Stevens used the Jackson TPE.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/transactions-rumors/celtics-strike-deal-for-grizzlies-center#gid=ci02d56a385000268c&pid=usatsi_21811184
The newest Celtic is on an expiring $1.9 million contract, meaning he fits into their $1.8 million Justin Jackson traded player exception (TPE). Teams can use a TPE to absorb a salary up to $100 thousand more than its value.

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What is the difference?

It doesn't matter, Stevens was sent out in the trade. Celtics wanted an open roster spot
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Post#531 » by KillahGhostface » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:31 pm

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Post#532 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:32 pm

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Looks like Maxey will probably be heading to Boston in a 3 team deal. Maxey fits the $6.2 milllion TPE
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Post#533 » by KillahGhostface » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:32 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:We're not a 2nd Apron, until the New Season kicks in though, right?

I think that Brad took Tillman, cause he just fits into the Jackson TPE.
Not sure if the 2 x 2nds are/were necessary?

There are multiple reports that say Tillman cannot fit into the Jackson TPE which is why the Celtics included Stevens. Just review the last 10 pages.

I'm not buying it. -- When all is said and done, we'll see that Brad Stevens used the Jackson TPE.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/transactions-rumors/celtics-strike-deal-for-grizzlies-center#gid=ci02d56a385000268c&pid=usatsi_21811184
The newest Celtic is on an expiring $1.9 million contract, meaning he fits into their $1.8 million Justin Jackson traded player exception (TPE). Teams can use a TPE to absorb a salary up to $100 thousand more than its value.


It’s 100000% not part of the Jackson TPE lol.
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Post#534 » by Parliament10 » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:36 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:There are multiple reports that say Tillman cannot fit into the Jackson TPE which is why the Celtics included Stevens. Just review the last 10 pages.

I'm not buying it. -- When all is said and done, we'll see that Brad Stevens used the Jackson TPE.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/transactions-rumors/celtics-strike-deal-for-grizzlies-center#gid=ci02d56a385000268c&pid=usatsi_21811184
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What is the difference?

It doesn't matter, Stevens was sent out in the trade.

Yeah. It just matters, in the respect that Brad Stevens found a use for the Jackson TPE. Very Crafty. :wink:


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Post#535 » by Parliament10 » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:38 pm

KillahGhostface wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:There are multiple reports that say Tillman cannot fit into the Jackson TPE which is why the Celtics included Stevens. Just review the last 10 pages.

I'm not buying it. -- When all is said and done, we'll see that Brad Stevens used the Jackson TPE.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/transactions-rumors/celtics-strike-deal-for-grizzlies-center#gid=ci02d56a385000268c&pid=usatsi_21811184
The newest Celtic is on an expiring $1.9 million contract, meaning he fits into their $1.8 million Justin Jackson traded player exception (TPE). Teams can use a TPE to absorb a salary up to $100 thousand more than its value.


It’s 100000% not part of the Jackson TPE lol.

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Post#536 » by Hal14 » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:40 pm

KillahGhostface wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
Cuban Pete wrote:
Hauser DRB% 13.0
Fontecchio DRB% 11.5

Fontecchio is a better playmaker, but not by much. Both aren't very good in this area (H 6.5 Asst%, F 8.5 Assit%)

Hauser is better at threes based on attempts per 100 possessions.

That Hauser is 2y younger means he's got a higher ceiling.

Walsh is an extremely raw player with long arms who has elite defensive skills and has shown flashes of 3pt shooting and elite playmaking skills. His development is purely mental. He'll pass up open shots to a point that it will earn him a trip to the bench. He'll have slips in his shooting mechanics that result in bricks. That his ceiling is sky high isn't a matter of opinion. He could be a stud or a bust. That said, there's no doubt that Dunn and Olynyk are as good as they're going to be.

I'm not really sure why you bothered typing all of that since this is a moot point now.


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Post#538 » by KillahGhostface » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:42 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
KillahGhostface wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:I'm not buying it. -- When all is said and done, we'll see that Brad Stevens used the Jackson TPE.

https://www.si.com/nba/celtics/transactions-rumors/celtics-strike-deal-for-grizzlies-center#gid=ci02d56a385000268c&pid=usatsi_21811184


It’s 100000% not part of the Jackson TPE lol.

We'll see.


It’s not a well see thing my man lol, it wasn’t used, that’s why Lamar went. It’s done, everybody has already acknowledged it.

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Post#539 » by KillahGhostface » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:43 pm

Hal14 wrote:
KillahGhostface wrote:
Hal14 wrote:I'm not really sure why you bothered typing all of that since this is a moot point now.


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lol yeah I guess I shouldn't have even bothered typing that myself..


Just having some fun lol
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Post#540 » by flintsky21 » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:43 pm

What would it take to get Bey?

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