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Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1901 » by KGdaBom » Wed Feb 7, 2024 7:47 pm

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KGdaBom wrote:I would not have been disappointed if we had traded for this guy.

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Fontecchio was traded from the Jazz to the Pistons on Wednesday in exchange for Kevin Knox and a 2024 second-round pick, Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN reports.


I can't see us beating their offer. They gave up the better of the MEM/WIZ pick (we have the worse) and the draft rights to Gabriele Procida (36th pick in the 2022 draft).

So it was almost a first round pick.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1902 » by BlacJacMac » Wed Feb 7, 2024 7:54 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I would not have been disappointed if we had traded for this guy.

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2/07/2024 8:10:41 AM
Fontecchio was traded from the Jazz to the Pistons on Wednesday in exchange for Kevin Knox and a 2024 second-round pick, Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN reports.


I can't see us beating their offer. They gave up the better of the MEM/WIZ pick (we have the worse) and the draft rights to Gabriele Procida (36th pick in the 2022 draft).

So it was almost a first round pick.


And Procida is a very good prospect. 21 year-old, 6'7 wing that is an outstanding shooter and athlete with the ability to create his own shot.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1903 » by KGdaBom » Wed Feb 7, 2024 7:55 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
I can't see us beating their offer. They gave up the better of the MEM/WIZ pick (we have the worse) and the draft rights to Gabriele Procida (36th pick in the 2022 draft).

So it was almost a first round pick.


And Procida is a very good prospect. 21 year-old, 6'7 wing that is an outstanding shooter and athlete with the ability to create his own shot.

So I was probably right to like Fontecchio. He must be pretty good to command that.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1904 » by winforlose » Wed Feb 7, 2024 7:58 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:So it was almost a first round pick.


And Procida is a very good prospect. 21 year-old, 6'7 wing that is an outstanding shooter and athlete with the ability to create his own shot.

So I was probably right to like Fontecchio. He must be pretty good to command that.


Or Detroit is bad at deal making. Given that we might be making deals with them, let’s hope ;)
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1905 » by BlacJacMac » Wed Feb 7, 2024 8:00 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:So it was almost a first round pick.


And Procida is a very good prospect. 21 year-old, 6'7 wing that is an outstanding shooter and athlete with the ability to create his own shot.

So I was probably right to like Fontecchio. He must be pretty good to command that.


No reason not to like him. He's been very productive for Utah this year. 45/39/80 in 23 MPG. Does a bit of everything.

Utah basically traded a 28 year-old for the 21 year-old version of the same guy - they're even both from Italy. I have no idea why Detroit did it.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1906 » by winforlose » Wed Feb 7, 2024 8:05 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
And Procida is a very good prospect. 21 year-old, 6'7 wing that is an outstanding shooter and athlete with the ability to create his own shot.

So I was probably right to like Fontecchio. He must be pretty good to command that.


No reason not to like him. He's been very productive for Utah this year. 45/39/80 in 23 MPG. Does a bit of everything.

Utah basically traded a 28 year-old for the 21 year-old version of the same guy - they're even both from Italy. I have no idea why Detroit did it.


Maybe the guy told Detroit he won’t come over unless they trade him.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1907 » by KGdaBom » Wed Feb 7, 2024 8:17 pm

I didn't want this guy. I wonder why the Celtics did it having IMO two pretty good back up centers in Horford and Kornet. I guess Horford doesn't have much time left.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1908 » by minimus » Wed Feb 7, 2024 8:54 pm

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Klomp wrote:Another interesting possibility is if McLaughlin could be consistent enough to where, instead of using Anderson to get a PG, he could net us another 3/D wing/forward instead. Maybe someone like Dorian Finney-Smith?


I have better idea: Moore, Minott, SRP for Simone Fontecchio

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1909 » by TwolvesFanRome » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:24 pm

"...I want to compliment him, we all expected that he would take up the game, we have prepared the plan race on him, we have doubled. And, as usual, he did what he wanted..."

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1910 » by Movics » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:35 pm

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Good stuff
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1911 » by winforlose » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:41 pm

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Read on Twitter
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Good stuff


This is the move that was telegraphed for a while. The real question is what did we trade Kyle for?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1912 » by Domejandro » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:53 pm

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On paper, sure. Just have to hope that he returns to form, from the injury.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1913 » by Calinks » Wed Feb 7, 2024 9:58 pm

I thought Shake was going to big time for us. Sad how that turned out, we really needed him to be a bucket-getter. Hopefully he can turn it around in Detroit.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1914 » by jpatrick » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:00 pm

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On paper, sure. Just have to hope that he returns to form, from the injury.


Very low risk move. Morris gives us another PG that can shoot if he rounds into form (he’s been pretty awful since his return).

Only thing I don’t like is that I was hoping we combine Anderson, Brown, and Shake for a more impactful guy, like Bogdonavic. But was probably always a pipe dream.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1915 » by BlacJacMac » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:00 pm

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On paper, sure. Just have to hope that he returns to form, from the injury.


No reason to think he won't once he shakes off the rust.

Guy is as consistent of a shooter as there is the past 5 years.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1916 » by winforlose » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:02 pm

If Kyle unfollowed the Wolves he must think he was moved. Has anyone heard anything? Royce O’Neal maybe?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1917 » by BlacJacMac » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:05 pm

minimus wrote:
minimus wrote:
Klomp wrote:Another interesting possibility is if McLaughlin could be consistent enough to where, instead of using Anderson to get a PG, he could net us another 3/D wing/forward instead. Maybe someone like Dorian Finney-Smith?


I have better idea: Moore, Minott, SRP for Simone Fontecchio

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That was my idea! :banghead:


They got a better deal than your offer.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1918 » by jscott » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:06 pm

Do we need to shed some cap after this deal? Monte makes a fair bit more than TBJ/Shake. Does this come down to the percentage of the season we have him for?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1919 » by Klomp » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:12 pm

(just made a dedicated thread for that trade btw)
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition 

Post#1920 » by Klomp » Wed Feb 7, 2024 10:13 pm

jscott wrote:Do we need to shed some cap after this deal? Monte makes a fair bit more than TBJ/Shake. Does this come down to the percentage of the season we have him for?

We're talking less than $1 mill difference here fwiw
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