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[GoBlue72391]

Are AKME just lazy?

They presumably believe they're doing the right, smart thing.

[NecessaryEvil]

Windy said yesterday that the Bulls weren't talking to anyone and it sure does look that way. Haven't heard a spec outside of KC today.

I pulled myself away from being so invested in this over the last couple of seasons. I hate this for the fans that are MUCH more passionate about it than I am at this point. I guess they looked at that 20-14 record (i believe) over the last 34 games and said we're good.

It is what it is.

[cubd8]

Question for those more educated on the Bulls cap position/off-season.

If they let DeMar walk, maybe trade Drummond, etc.

Are the Bulls in position to make any meaningful free agent splashes? Do they have a 1st round pick?

They do have a pick this summer. The team isn't in position to make any meaningful signings this summer though. Extend Pat, get a new backup and probably another wing.

Since it sounds like they are still stuck on doing anything meaningful to the roster, this could encourage them to keep the status quo in place since it's been competitive and improving without Zach. I could be wrong in a few hours should they move Caruso, DeMar or Drummond, but it seems like they will argue that the team has improved and they want to see how they finish the season.

[madvillian]

Are AKME just lazy?

They presumably believe they're doing the right, smart thing.

There's a lot of motivations and reasons we can claim for their inaction, including direction of ownership. I really am wondering though if they just aren't that active at their jobs. The Bulls just seem to take the course of least action quite often.

[cubd8]

Windy said yesterday that the Bulls weren't talking to anyone and it sure does look that way. Haven't heard a spec outside of KC today.

I pulled myself away from being so invested in this over the last couple of seasons. I hate this for the fans that are MUCH more passionate about it than I am at this point.

It is what it is.

KC isn't exactly a breaking news guy. He's more likley to hold something back, but Woj has also been quiet on Chicago.

lots of activity around the league though.

[GoBlue72391]

-snipped

Just stop. -Ashy

[NecessaryEvil]

Windy said yesterday that the Bulls weren't talking to anyone and it sure does look that way. Haven't heard a spec outside of KC today.

I pulled myself away from being so invested in this over the last couple of seasons. I hate this for the fans that are MUCH more passionate about it than I am at this point.

It is what it is.

KC isn't exactly a breaking news guy. He's more likley to hold something back, but Woj has also been quiet on Chicago.

lots of activity around the league though.

That's what I mean, KC spoke on Andre this morning I believe, but outside of that, nothing from any other NBA people.

League is very active, no big names but role players galore on the move.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

It's an absurd argument to make. Caruso is about as impactful and important as a non-star player can possibly be. To argue otherwise is just ridiculous.

It's not even an argument. It's just word salad. What does it actually mean to say a guy is "as impactful and important as a non-star player can possibly be".

Well, it means the guy is a non-star.

That's the bottom line.

And teams are dying to give at least two first round picks (which implies someone will give more) for a non-star.

This isn't rocket science guys. If someone offers two 1sts (or more!) for a guy who you accept isn't a star on your dead-end team, you **** do it!

You're a clown for assuming that because I'm defending Caruso against "He's the most easily replaceable trade asset on the team" means I'm opposed to trading him.

Newsflash: I would take multiple 1sts for him in a heartbeat.

This has gone south. You two need to go your separate ways. It’s a high stakes day, so no warnings if you leave it here.

That goes for everyone. Don’t personalize and don’t take broad swipes at the board.

[jnrjr79]

Best case? Win a playoff series. Prediction? Lose a playoff series. Worst case? Lose in the play in.

But it doesn't matter. The trades available are either good and help the team, or they aren't.

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It matters greatly. If you think making the second round is the ceiling (which seems implausible - I can't see them beating anyone they'd be playing in the first round, but whatever), then you have to pick a lane here because DeRozan is expiring and Zach wants out. There are multiple reports today that the Bulls are rebuffing offers for DeRozan. Why? What is the plan with him moving forward? If the Bulls really think they can compete now, they need to be trying to improve the roster. If they conclude (rightly, IMO), that this team is on a treadmill and there's not an immediate path to substantial improvement, then they need to get some assets for these guys that won't be here long-term.

The worst thing the Bulls can do is just ride out the string, let DeRozan walk (or sign him to an unwise extension), let Drummond hit free agency, etc. That's the guaranteed path to mediocrity without assets allowing them to reload for the next generation of the team.

I've been literally begging for them to trade DDR for over a year.

But what offers have you seen reported that the Bulls have refused?

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Woj reported that the Bulls are being offered draft compensation for DeRozan but refuse to do it because they want win-now players.

[Rose2Boozer]

Let's fire up that buyout market thread!!!

[LateNight]

…So we did nothing?

the deadline is this afternoon.

I thought noon EST, my bad

[Dominator83]

Man AKME tearing this fan base apart in ways Gar/Pax can never dream of

[MikeDC]

Ayo and Pat? Replace Caruso. Stop it.

Stop pretending to respond without seriously engaging the discussion. There's no point to your guys' dissembling responses.

No, I have (and everyone else, I think) would acknowledge that Caruso is better. But Ayo and Pat are good defenders and young developing players.

Getting better doesn't happen through risk-free magical thinking. The only way for the Bulls to improve is to get younger and get more assets. Buy low and sell high. The presence of these younger guys makes it relatively possible to sell high on Caruso. That's the kind of move the Bulls need to make.

The emotional thought process that you guys take leads to the opposite. Instead of selling high, you wait too long and hold on to these guys too long, and then you end up selling low and continuing the long descent through mediocrity that the Bulls are on.

You guys pretend to not be cool with that, but you're too scared to do anything about it. Good way to understand AKME.

Most people are more than fine with selling high on Caruso for multiple 1st rounders, while at the same time acknowledging that he's an extremely impactful role player

I think Caruso is as good as a non-star player can get and I love watching him and would hate to see him go, yet I would drive him to the airport if trading him meant multiple 1sts in return. That's a no-brainer trade for a non-contending team like us.

Quit acting like people defending Caruso against your disrespect of him are universally opposed to trading him.

My "disrespect" of him? C'mon my man, that's just silly. You don't even actually disagree with the point I'm making. I respect him plenty and you are not giving my responses a sensible reading if you think otherwise.

I just don't think we need to spend a lot of time waxing poetic. If he's an "extremely impactful role player" is not "disrespectful" then "he's a role player" isn't either.

On the other hand, calling the guy "extremely impactful" and leaving out the "role player" part... well, that's not very respectful to the guys who really are stars. If that's what "respect" means, then you're "disrespectful" of whatever star you might think of is a great star to equate him with a role player like Caruso.

Like tic-tac-toe and Global Thermonuclear War, the only way to win is not to play.

[MikeDC]

Ayo and Pat? Replace Caruso. Stop it.

Stop pretending to respond without seriously engaging the discussion. There's no point to your guys' dissembling responses.

No, I have (and everyone else, I think) would acknowledge that Caruso is better. But Ayo and Pat are good defenders and young developing players.

Getting better doesn't happen through risk-free magical thinking. The only way for the Bulls to improve is to get younger and get more assets. Buy low and sell high. The presence of these younger guys makes it relatively possible to sell high on Caruso. That's the kind of move the Bulls need to make.

The emotional thought process that you guys take leads to the opposite. Instead of selling high, you wait too long and hold on to these guys too long, and then you end up selling low and continuing the long descent through mediocrity that the Bulls are on.

You guys pretend to not be cool with that, but you're too scared to do anything about it. Good way to understand AKME.

Most people are more than fine with selling high on Caruso for multiple 1st rounders, while at the same time acknowledging that he's an extremely impactful role player

I think Caruso is as good as a non-star player can get and I love watching him and would hate to see him go, yet I would drive him to the airport if trading him meant multiple 1sts in return. That's a no-brainer trade for a non-contending team like us.

Quit acting like people defending Caruso against your disrespect of him are universally opposed to trading him.

My "disrespect" of him? C'mon my man, that's just silly. You don't even actually disagree with the point I'm making. I respect him plenty and you are not giving my responses a sensible reading if you think otherwise.

I just don't think we need to spend a lot of time waxing poetic. If he's an "extremely impactful role player" is not "disrespectful" then "he's a role player" isn't either.

On the other hand, calling the guy "extremely impactful" and leaving out the "role player" part... well, that's not very respectful to the guys who really are stars. If that's what "respect" means, then you're "disrespectful" of whatever star you might think of is a great star to equate him with a role player like Caruso.

Like tic-tac-toe and Global Thermonuclear War, the only way to win is not to play.

[chitownsports4ever]

I dont think anyone is offering two 1st rd picks for Caruso hats just the media gaslighting Bulls fans as usual for clicks

I think our players have value but the Bulls are not looking for salary dumps they would prefer to ride it out for players they at least like over taking some trash back they dont. If they could get back players that could help them I think they would make a move but I can easily see the argument being whats best for the continued ascension of Coby White is to try and get him on the big stage and continue to have him play in games that matter . I dont see Coby being willing to be involved in another rebuild situation

[aguifs]

Where's Kyle Lowry?

[Dominator83]

I dont think anyone is offering two 1st rd picks for Caruso hats just the media gaslighting Bulls fans as usual for clicks

I think our players have value but the Bulls are not looking for salary dumps they would prefer to ride it out for players they at least like over taking some trash back they dont. If they could get back players that could help them I think they would make a move but I can easily see the argument being whats best for the continued ascension of Coby White is to try and get him on the big stage and continue to have him play in games that matter . I dont see Coby being willing to be involved in another rebuild situation

Only way Coby can grow from here is having the ball in late game situations. That isn't happening with DDR here hogging all the crunch time usage. Like in the overtime game the other night, Coby got 1 shot attempt in that OT period. 1.

[FriedRise]

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[NecessaryEvil]

Man AKME tearing this fan base apart in ways Gar/Pax can never dream of

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what did we say again? 3/80M?