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[GoBlue72391]

Late firsts isn't value for Caruso

Multiple 1sts for a role player, though an elite role player, is tremendous value.

Meh... all firsts aren't created equal. Two late first rounders mean you likely got an end of the rotation player for him.

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But that's a lot better than losing him for nothing, which is the likely alternative.

[HoopsterJones]

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It’s impossible to play this game without knowing what’s actually available, but the Bulls are headed for the third straight trade deadline without a trade. Think about that for a sec. For three straight years, our front office has concluded that no one on the trade market is good enough for a player on our roster.

Adding Thompson and Beverly off the buyout market isn’t good enough.

Are other teams not trading at the trading deadline?

The only EC teams that have done nothing at deadline so far are Cleveland, Milwaukee, and Chicago.
Milwaukee's a contender, CLE just needs to get healthy.
A 24 win team like Chicago saying we're contending in the playoffs should be doing something.

Milwaukee got Pat Bev today from PHI (ironically).

[Dominator83]

Everybody's view of the big picture is different. AKME made like 5 trades in the first year, completely rebuilding the team. Most of the current Bulls have been here 3 years or less. Trading away anybody other than Zach or Coby means he's trading a player THEY picked, and after just a few years. We just had a rebuild that was looking good till it fell of the cliff with the Lonzo injury. I think we were at the ceiling of a team without a top 10 player or two. The guys we're mostly talking about trading now, Caruso and Drummond, he JUST added them, and cheaply too. Not to say he won't do it for a great offer, but he SHOULD demand a great offer for those guys, they're great players in their way. But with a completely rebuilt team, doesn't it make sense he hasn't done trades the last couple years, especially with Lonzo's playing status continually in the air?

Drummond should be moved if Philly is willing to part with even a late 1st. I like Drummond but most nights he's lucky to see 15 minutes

[Hangtime84]

Bulls would need some crazy 3 or 4 team deal for them to get what they want.

[GoBlue72391]

Killian Hayes waived?

Yeah, but no one's waved back /bad joke

[GoBlue72391]

I feel like non-lottery 1st round picks are simultaneously overvalued and undervalued.

[drosestruts]

Buyout market season - we have been at 14 players all year. Though not clear at all if any worthwhile forwards will get waived. If he became available I'd give Yuta Wantanabe a look. Unexciting I know - but knockdown shooter with size.

[Infinity2152]

Calling Caruso a role player is why people think we should take a late pick for him. He would provide sixth man value and play 6th man minutes on MANY teams in the NBA and do it effectively. So what's the value for an under 30 sixth man, who's one of the best defenders in the league on a cheap contract? That every serious contender would LOVE to have? Much more than a late pick.

[ChiefILL53]

Killian Hayes waived?

yea, cuz hes cheeks. I didnt like him coming out of the draft and hes looked pretty bad

[greenwing]

Everybody's view of the big picture is different. AKME made like 5 trades in the first year, completely rebuilding the team. Most of the current Bulls have been here 3 years or less. Trading away anybody other than Zach or Coby means he's trading a player THEY picked, and after just a few years. We just had a rebuild that was looking good till it fell of the cliff with the Lonzo injury. I think we were at the ceiling of a team without a top 10 player or two. The guys we're mostly talking about trading now, Caruso and Drummond, he JUST added them, and cheaply too. Not to say he won't do it for a great offer, but he SHOULD demand a great offer for those guys, they're great players in their way. But with a completely rebuilt team, doesn't it make sense he hasn't done trades the last couple years, especially with Lonzo's playing status continually in the air?

Drummond should be moved if Philly is willing to part with even a late 1st. I like Drummond but most nights he's lucky to see 15 minutes

Why? Philly is in free fall mode without Embiid. Heck, we actually have a chance to leapfrog them in the standings. Might as well keep him and see if the twin towers does something. And if not, you have a great backup 5.

[HoopsterJones]

Killian Hayes waived?

yea, cuz hes cheeks. I didnt like him coming out of the draft and hes looked pretty bad

Imagine drafting Killian Hayes at #7….and Haliburton goes at #12.

[donaldtrump_00]

I'm assuming it's a consensus that, following the Wizards, the Bulls are viewed as having the league's second-worst front office, right?

There's some people right here on this very board who think AKME are an absolute A-grade masterclass of a front office.

This is unnecessary. Akme are very good. I'm not defending them or criticizing them. They still work for Jerry Reinsdorf. Don't act like he and his son isn't manipulating every move they make. We know they need permission to be themselves. Plus these deals on the table are trash. If coby white made a leap in growth then somehow Patrick Williams can do the same within the next 3 years were still a very good team.

In that case you prolong demar, vucevic, zach. Drummond is a steal as a back up center. We have to wait on lonzo ball as well. He was the right player for those 3 star level players. Ppl act like lonzo did alot. He shoots 3s. He's elite defense, and can pass the ball with great precision. I know he can be that player again. Now ayo and coby have arrived or ayo is just getting started. Bring in another shooter.

People criticizing them for staying afloat. And I must be the only one who's supportive on Javon Carter. He can shoot very good. Just he's been overwhelmed. He will figure it out. His only problem is he's thinking and not playing. If they still want to trade zach or demarbthen that works. Just one may need to go. Coby makes it easier to move on from one of them.

Let Patrick Williams step up his game and watch how that drastically improves this team.i know half these posters don't fully understand basketball. If they do make a deal for Drummond by the time I'm finished making this post then so be it. But I'm against it.

[GoBlue72391]

Buyout market season - we have been at 14 players all year. Though not clear at all if any worthwhile forwards will get waived. If he became available I'd give Yuta Wantanabe a look. Unexciting I know - but knockdown shooter with size.

I'm pretty sure signing or claiming anyone would push us into the luxury tax. I don't see us going into the LT for someone like Watanabe (though I personally would love him on this team).

[_txchilibowl_]

How should I know? I'm not on the phones with GMs. I don't know what's being offered and I don't know what AKME is thinking or how they value their players vs other team's players.

Are you suggesting there are no trades available that would make the Bulls better? If so, how do you know? What trades would you have turned down?

I think the point is it's kind of silly to complain about the unknown. Would you be feeling good right now if the bulls got fleeced? That's a trade.

We don't know what's out there.

We do know that this FO never makes moves/trades.

And if that is consistently happening it speaks to their inability to negotiate and manage assets.

Or it speaks to the lousy deals that are out there. You know this...

[_txchilibowl_]

How should I know? I'm not on the phones with GMs. I don't know what's being offered and I don't know what AKME is thinking or how they value their players vs other team's players.

Are you suggesting there are no trades available that would make the Bulls better? If so, how do you know? What trades would you have turned down?

I think the point is it's kind of silly to complain about the unknown. Would you be feeling good right now if the bulls got fleeced? That's a trade.

We don't know what's out there.

Exactly. We don't know what's out there, so it's illogical to ask "What trades would you have made?" How should I know?

Just as it's illogical to say " We should be making TRADES! ALL THE TRADES!".

[GoBlue72391]

Calling Caruso a role player is why people think we should take a late pick for him. He would provide sixth man value and play 6th man minutes on MANY teams in the NBA and do it effectively. So what's the value for an under 30 sixth man, who's one of the best defenders in the league on a cheap contract? That every serious contender would LOVE to have? Much more than a late pick.

Has it even been specified that Caruso would return "late picks"? All I've heard is "two 1sts." I assume they're non-lotto picks, but who knows? I could see a contending team giving like a future top 10 protected 1st and a late 1st for Caruso.

[BigUps]

Please call the Lakers and please deal Demar for SOMETHING. I honestly don't care what we get back. I just want him gone so that AKME don't try to resign him.

That's where I'm at. I'm hoping for moves so that our management doesn't do something stupid longer term.

[GoBlue72391]

I think the point is it's kind of silly to complain about the unknown. Would you be feeling good right now if the bulls got fleeced? That's a trade.

We don't know what's out there.

Exactly. We don't know what's out there, so it's illogical to ask "What trades would you have made?" How should I know?

Just as it's illogical to say " We should be making TRADES! ALL THE TRADES!".

Except nobody said that.

[ChiefILL53]

Killian Hayes waived?

yea, cuz hes cheeks. I didnt like him coming out of the draft and hes looked pretty bad

Imagine drafting Killian Hayes at #7….and Haliburton goes at #12.

idk how to add a gif but this is a very big OOF

[HoopsterJones]

yea, cuz hes cheeks. I didnt like him coming out of the draft and hes looked pretty bad

Imagine drafting Killian Hayes at #7….and Haliburton goes at #12.

idk how to add a gif but this is a very big OOF

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