LightTheBeam wrote:codydaze wrote:LightTheBeam wrote:
I mean 3 2nds on Royce. Or 3 2nds to line Viveks pocket? I really have grown to be desensitized to the thought of trading 2nds as we don't use them, and the ones we do we don't spend any time developing.
But I agree. And when we traded Holmes/Prosper for nothing, we lost another tradable salary and one of our only assets.
I know everyone was happy we locked Sabonis up early, but I always felt he wasn't leaving if we were competitive, and we should have in fact used the last bit of flexibility we had to get better, instead of what we did. But I honestly think long term Vivek just refuses to spend so even if they knew Sabonis was coming back they would have still handled things the same.
And last note, I think without the Duarte trade, we coulda still kept those guys. Harrison would have had to take less, but not sure who we were bidding against there anyways.
I still think the Vivek only wants to sell 2nds for cash is overblown. In the last four drafts we've brought in 5 second round picks:
- Colby Jones
- Jalen Slawson
- Neemias Queta
- Jahmius Ramsey
- Robert Woodard
And have sold/moved 4 second round picks:
- Jordan Walsh
- Jaden Hardy
- Xavier Tillman
- KJ Martin
The big difference being that second group has looked like much more promising NBA players. I think Colby will be a rotation guy within the next couple years and I wish we gave Queta some more time to develop but I think he is what he is at this point. We just have whiffed on the guys we did bring in.
The big 3 that stick out to me are
Hardy, Tillman, Gary Trent Jr. You just don't trade these early-mid picks in the 30s.
I'm thrilled they actually traded up to get Colby. Wish they would give him minutes, its clear a player of his type could help us. My guess is they did that because they sold the 1st round pick for pocket savings (so you can add that in to the list of sold picks).
Lets see. IF Davion isn't traded today and is still getting minutes over Colby/Keon the 2nd half then ya.. I've been told Davion is getting minutes as a showcase, that's fair (although I don't think its helping) but if hes not moved time to try something else.
For sure, those guys definitely stick out but my point is that if we hit on a couple of those seconds then the "Vivek only wants to sell 2nds for cash" narrative doesn't get brought up as much.
And selling off the 1st to dump Holmes was definitely a choice I could go either way on. On one hand it's nice to have Domas locked up but on the other hand I do also think he was staying either way so I can see both sides. I definitely feel like Colby is a guy we would have targeted at that pick anyway.
I really hope we do something too, I feel like Monte can't be watching this team and feel like this is good enough to push for the playoffs.