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[SfBull]

Pat will get a minimum of $15 million this offseason, he will definitely have a major impact on us approaching the luxury tax. DeRozan isn’t re-signing for less than Vuc makes so minimum $20 million for him. We will fill out the rest of roster with minimum deals other than our 1st round pick. We have basically no cap space external improvement. We could use the MLE, but we obviously won’t.

What?
Pat making $60 /4?
He's just a role player who's starting because he doesn't have real competition.
He should get something around Felicio's contract of 32/4.
But you'll likely say the salary cap raised since then.
Not sure why people are so high on just a role player like him,I can understand extending Coby but Pat at 60/4??

Not a Pat fan whatsoever, but if you think he'll get anything under 60/4 more likely 80+/4 your going to be sorely surprised. I'd rather see him at like 40/4 but it just wont happen, other teams have shown interest before and now he is starting to play better with Coby/Ayo at the helm.

So you believe he can get a better contract than Coby?

[jnrjr79]

When is the press conference?

3pm CT, but I don't think it'll be televised (why would they?). We'll probably get the little nuggets from reporters tweeting.

Sometimes NBC Sports Chicago streams these things online, so that could be worth checking (if you're a masochist and want to watch, lol).

[madvillian]

This sucks. This whole season has had about two weeks of fun and the rest has been miserable.

[burlydee]

Basketball Reference has them at a 21.5% chance. FanDuel has it at +310 (so also unlikely). 538 projects them missing the playoffs.

But yeah, sure, the problem here is that ESPN sucks at math.

What are the odds for the teams directly surrounding the Bulls?

ESPN says the Magic have an 82% chance and the Hawks have a 19% chance. So, for whatever reason, their metric likes the Hawks better than the Bulls, despite the Hawks being one slot behind Chicago right now.

FanDuel has the Hawks at +265 (so Vegas agrees the Hawks are more likely to make it than the Bulls) and Orlando at -520 (very likely to make it).

Strength of schedule probably. Bulls got 3 games versus Knicks and 2 versus Boston.

[Kurt Heimlich]

I can only bring myself to watch ESPN's NBA coverage team for NBA draft and Trade Deadline and they're straight up mocking the Bulls for obviously good reason. As this franchise continues its dissolve into Charlotte Hornets level irrelevancy.

[jnrjr79]

What are the odds for the teams directly surrounding the Bulls?

ESPN says the Magic have an 82% chance and the Hawks have a 19% chance. So, for whatever reason, their metric likes the Hawks better than the Bulls, despite the Hawks being one slot behind Chicago right now.

FanDuel has the Hawks at +265 (so Vegas agrees the Hawks are more likely to make it than the Bulls) and Orlando at -520 (very likely to make it).

Strength of schedule probably. Bulls got 3 games versus Knicks and 2 versus Boston.

Yeah, I read recently that the Bulls have the 10th hardest schedule through the rest of the season. So more tough games than easy ones remaining.

[SfBull]

Julian Phillips and Dalen Terry can replace the production of the late firsts we didn't get for trading Caruso.

Dalen Terry is just a bust .The Bulls could have used a package with DeMar and Pat for trading.
Now we got nothing.

[PJSteven22]

Can’t say I’m surprised

[TheSuzerain]

When is the press conference?

3pm CT, but I don't think it'll be televised (why would they?). We'll probably get the little nuggets from reporters tweeting.

Usually gets streamed on twitter.

[League Circles]

A pick in the 30s isn't that different value wise from a late FRP. You aren't getting a FRP for an expiring Derozan.

Agreed, both late firsts and seconds suck. Even half a season of Demar is worth more.

It's really not. You're overvaluing the players on this team.

I'm saying it should be worth more to us. Demar is much more likely to help us get to the playoffs and maybe even win some games or a series than 2nd rounders are to ever be something.

[Hangtime84]

If we only were this loyal to Lauri

[drosestruts]

A pick in the 30s isn't that different value wise from a late FRP. You aren't getting a FRP for an expiring Derozan.

Agreed, both late firsts and seconds suck. Even half a season of Demar is worth more.

It's really not. You're overvaluing the players on this team.

Show me the last time someone went from back to back all-star games while earning a 2nd-team All NBA, then in year 3 was traded for a late first or multiple 2nds?

Daniel Gafford was traded for a first

Kelly Olynk and Agbaji netted a late 1st

Steven Adams was trade for 3 2nds and he's not even playing this year

Rozier was traded for a lottery protected 1st

Royce O'Neale was traded for 3 2nds - he's on an expiring deal

PJ Washington was traded for a 1st

Hield was traded for 3 2nds and is expiring


DeMar is worth more than what any of the above players received. I honestly don't think I'm being bias here when I say DeMar is better than all those players.

[PJSteven22]

Good thing we won't do anything that silly. Extremely high chance they wouldn't be worth anything, especially because they probably wouldn't get a chance to play.

Just say no to meh draft picks!

A pick in the 30s isn't that different value wise from a late FRP. You aren't getting a FRP for an expiring Derozan.

Agreed, both late firsts and seconds suck. Even half a season of Demar is worth more.

It’s better than overpaying DeMar like they did with Vuc. You have to think about the future as well.

[FriedRise]

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[League Circles]

A pick in the 30s isn't that different value wise from a late FRP. You aren't getting a FRP for an expiring Derozan.

Agreed, both late firsts and seconds suck. Even half a season of Demar is worth more.

It’s better than overpaying DeMar like they did with Vuc. You have to think about the future as well.

There's no reason to overpay Demar and whether or not we do is unrelated to the question of whether or not this last half of the season from him is worth some 2nd round picks.

We should keep Demar for the rest of the season, and then either let him walk or sign him to a good value contract. I'm fine with either.

[PJSteven22]

Agreed, both late firsts and seconds suck. Even half a season of Demar is worth more.

It's really not. You're overvaluing the players on this team.

Show me the last time someone went from back to back all-star games while earning a 2nd-team All NBA, then in year 3 was traded for a late first or multiple 2nds?

Daniel Gafford was traded for a first

Kelly Olynk and Agbaji netted a late 1st

Steven Adams was trade for 3 2nds and he's not even playing this year

Rozier was traded for a lottery protected 1st

Royce O'Neale was traded for 3 2nds - he's on an expiring deal

PJ Washington was traded for a 1st

Hield was traded for 3 2nds and is expiring


DeMar is worth more than what any of the above players received. I honestly don't think I'm being bias here when I say DeMar is better than all those players.

He’s 2 years removed from an All NBA appearance. While he’s been solid he’s not worth giving a big contract to especially since he’s started to show his age. You just need to take what you can get so you don’t have to make that decision.

[NecessaryEvil]

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[Red8911]

Agreed, both late firsts and seconds suck. Even half a season of Demar is worth more.

It's really not. You're overvaluing the players on this team.

Show me the last time someone went from back to back all-star games while earning a 2nd-team All NBA, then in year 3 was traded for a late first or multiple 2nds?

Daniel Gafford was traded for a first

Kelly Olynk and Agbaji netted a late 1st

Steven Adams was trade for 3 2nds and he's not even playing this year

Rozier was traded for a lottery protected 1st

Royce O'Neale was traded for 3 2nds - he's on an expiring deal

PJ Washington was traded for a 1st

Hield was traded for 3 2nds and is expiring


DeMar is worth more than what any of the above players received. I honestly don't think I'm being bias here when I say DeMar is better than all those players.

He is better but first AK wasn’t really interested in just picks and second Demar is expiring, so these teams would have to rent him for what 3 months. Doubt there was even an offer AK considered for him.

[PJSteven22]

Agreed, both late firsts and seconds suck. Even half a season of Demar is worth more.

It’s better than overpaying DeMar like they did with Vuc. You have to think about the future as well.

There's no reason to overpay Demar and whether or not we do is unrelated to the question of whether or not this last half of the season from him is worth some 2nd round picks.

We should keep Demar for the rest of the season, and then either let him walk or sign him to a good value contract. I'm fine with either.

No thats very relevant to the topic because it shows you don’t know what to do with your assets.

[FriedRise]

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