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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1081 » by Skybox » Tue Feb 6, 2024 6:22 pm

RichCollab wrote:
eyriq wrote:Interesting results looking at 1st quarter lineups with Franz/Paolo/Suggs:

AB/Goga -7.3 net rating
Fultz/WCJ -11.6 net rating
AB/WCJ +7.7 net rating

Honorable mention
JI/WCJ +58.8 net rating

#FreeAB


WCJ shooting definitely makes it easier to start AB.


I just dont think that having a big man compensate for a guard's perimeter play is the answer. Having a C that can shoot 3's is certainly a good thing, but it doesn't "cover" the backcourt weakness...unless your guards can rim-protect and grab 10 boards.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1082 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Wed Feb 7, 2024 1:54 am

If Coles role doesn’t improve and I doubt it does, wouldn’t be shocked if he asked to be moved in summer.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1083 » by thelead » Wed Feb 7, 2024 1:59 am

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:If Coles role doesn’t improve and I doubt it does, wouldn’t be shocked if he asked to be moved in summer.

send him to Washington (for Tyus) or Memphis (for Kennard) NOW

Cole + Chuma works in both scenarios
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1084 » by fendilim » Wed Feb 7, 2024 2:14 am

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:If Coles role doesn’t improve and I doubt it does, wouldn’t be shocked if he asked to be moved in summer.

I’m not sure if he has that in him, the fact that he was downgraded to a 6th, and still extended an affordable extension, i think he knows he is a dying breed. Undersize guards arent valuable anymore
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1085 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Wed Feb 7, 2024 3:45 am

The Magic now have been “blown out” (15+ point loss) 11 times this season, ties Detroit.
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Post#1086 » by tooler » Wed Feb 7, 2024 4:26 am

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:The Magic now have been “blown out” (15+ point loss) 11 times this season, ties Detroit.

That's a surprising stat especially since they still have a positive point differential. It's on life support now though. How about some home games...
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Post#1087 » by pepe1991 » Wed Feb 7, 2024 7:14 am

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:The Magic now have been “blown out” (15+ point loss) 11 times this season, ties Detroit.


It's a given, most of the nights we can't score more than 105- ish points top.
So if team adjusts to our defense and scores 120 points, we just lose ugly.

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Add Heat game and we are 3-11 in games when opponents score 120 or more points.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1088 » by drsd » Wed Feb 7, 2024 7:37 am

tooler wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:The Magic now have been “blown out” (15+ point loss) 11 times this season, ties Detroit.

That's a surprising stat especially since they still have a positive point differential. It's on life support now though. How about some home games...


The Magic has 9 wins of 15+ and has totaled 14 wins of 10+.

In general, the standard deviation of NBA games is soaring this year. That is, games are rarely close anymore, in statistical terms. This is a trend that started about only small years ago, I believe.

The pepe view on this is that if a team is down 15+ in the 4th, players give up saving energy for the next game (why ris a star getting injured so the team can lose by 5 instead of 15 - sort of thing). I haven't seen an analysis on this, nut it would explain the data.
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Post#1089 » by SOUL » Wed Feb 7, 2024 7:39 am

Scoring is a problem for this team so it can get out of hand.

We also have the most tired/B2B/B2B away games in the league tied with.. Detroit.
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Post#1090 » by Skybox » Wed Feb 7, 2024 6:48 pm

General take on our starting lineup...

Defense-only backcourt and offense-only frontcourt is ineffective...unconventional - for a good reason.

Defensive-minded Center to anchor the TEAM's defense would outweigh the loss of Carter's amazing :roll: offensive contributions.

Adding a guy like Murray would actually make our point of attack defense even better while still moving our offense to the next level. Where do you find that kind of no-compromise opportunity? Give them what they want. We'd be much improved overall with a more offense-capable PG even if they played zero defense... Murray puts up 20ppg :banghead:

Don't be scared of a fierce competitor with an edge ORL. Let the rest of the league dread facing him and Suggs every year.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1091 » by Skybox » Thu Feb 8, 2024 2:27 pm

THIS is what Paolo should be doing...He's a better scorer and shooter than Zion, just not as freakishly athletic or fragile:

"I'm having a lot of fun. I got a lot of shooters out there and they gonna knock the shots down"

Point Zion in the win: 21 PTS, 10 AST, 2 BLK
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1092 » by eyriq » Thu Feb 8, 2024 4:44 pm

Ingles is a piece of work

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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1093 » by JoshuaPotter » Thu Feb 8, 2024 4:47 pm

eyriq wrote:Ingles is a piece of work

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If he stretches anymore he will tare his rotator cuff.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1094 » by drsd » Thu Feb 8, 2024 5:21 pm

eyriq wrote:Ingles is a piece of work

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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1095 » by J-Mezzy » Thu Feb 8, 2024 8:18 pm

Will Wemby play tonight

Was gonna go to the game and was curious if he plays back to backs
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1096 » by SOUL » Thu Feb 8, 2024 8:25 pm

Skybox wrote:General take on our starting lineup...

Defense-only backcourt and offense-only frontcourt is ineffective...unconventional - for a good reason.

Defensive-minded Center to anchor the TEAM's defense would outweigh the loss of Carter's amazing :roll: offensive contributions.

Adding a guy like Murray would actually make our point of attack defense even better while still moving our offense to the next level. Where do you find that kind of no-compromise opportunity? Give them what they want. We'd be much improved overall with a more offense-capable PG even if they played zero defense... Murray puts up 20ppg :banghead:

Don't be scared of a fierce competitor with an edge ORL. Let the rest of the league dread facing him and Suggs every year.


If they were asking for Herb Jones from NO, I can see them asking for Suggs. Not doing that.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1097 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Feb 8, 2024 8:36 pm

Fultz Harris 45m combined in cap hold next year. Im not ready for some of these awful family deals we’re about to hand out.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1098 » by RookieStar » Thu Feb 8, 2024 9:06 pm

eyriq wrote:Ingles is a piece of work

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lol seriously... I have a feeling |Jingles is a bad example if he does that a lot
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1099 » by drsd » Thu Feb 8, 2024 9:22 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:Fultz Harris 45m combined in cap hold next year. Im not ready for some of these awful family deals we’re about to hand out.


Either of these players can be waived at any time, eliminating their part of the cap hold.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread 

Post#1100 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Feb 8, 2024 9:24 pm

drsd wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:Fultz Harris 45m combined in cap hold next year. Im not ready for some of these awful family deals we’re about to hand out.


Either of these players can be waived at any time, eliminating their part of the cap hold.

oh I know just don't think either get waived and was mainly pointing how much cap space we now have for friends and family deals.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:

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