Kevin Willis wrote:Scase wrote:mieshpal wrote:The lack of respect lol oh jeez. Check the raps history pre Masai. That is all
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Who cares about pre Masai. What they did have no bearing on what he does and vice versa. Garbage before and garbage now are both garbage.
Grunwald drafted the most talented player in Raptors history, I'm not going to say Scottie isn't a great draft pick cause he's a less talent player. Good is good, bad is bad. Call a spade a spade.
I think the point he was trying to make it not to make judgment in a vacuum. For example, you can criticize Shaq for not being able to shoot FTs and make him sound like a bad player while ignoring his other stats and how he dominated his competition. The Raptors under Masai was able to develop a solid talented bench. Traded elements of that bench for talent. Win a championship. Try to maintain a championship level team but failed. Now is rebuilding. He made mistakes along the way but has built this reputation of trading away his mistakes.
If you compare his ability with previous Raptor's GMs and other GMs around the league he does well. Similar to Shaq, he's almost dominant. If you focus in on only his mistakes you can make him sound worse than he really is. Dennis was never part of Masai's plan, he wanted a player at guard when FV left (which was Masai's fault). Dennis became less of a need when we got IQ, so he was traded. What he did seems logical. He said before the trade deadline that he didn't expect to have 4 draft picks, especially in a weaker top talent draft. He traded one away. Seems logical since that's what he said. Compare Masai with previous Raptor GMs and those around the league and he's pretty good - even really good. Don't understand the disrespect unless you can find someone much better that we can get.
But I'm not comparing it in a vacuum.
Comparing him to old Raptors GMs is utterly pointless. I have been judging him on his performance since the chip, and that has been against the performance and outlooks of all other GMs/teams in the league. He has been objectively bad, his only saving grace up until the gifted OG trade, was drafting Scottie.
He gets flowers for that, but 1 thing going well in 4 years is not something to be proud of. If we want to talk outside of a vacuum, we can talk about how Masai is the highest paid exec in the league, and has some of the worst performance over the last 4 years. We had a good record the year after the chip, and it's been a slide ever since, worse by the year, and puzzling or outright bad moves have made up the majority of that time span.
I don't see how it is so controversial to say he has not been good since the chip, this doesn't devalue or erase his contributions in getting that chip, but that chip also doesn't give you carte blanche to **** the bed either. Overall he's been good, lately he has not, I don't think this is really that outlandish of a statement.