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Post#641 » by jayjaysee » Fri Feb 9, 2024 6:42 pm

Couldn’t OKC use a vet guard? I know Cason is ready for more minutes but feel like you still want that roster spot filled by a point guard.. maybe Josh provides it though?
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Post#642 » by moss_is_1 » Fri Feb 9, 2024 6:57 pm

jayjaysee wrote:Couldn’t OKC use a vet guard? I know Cason is ready for more minutes but feel like you still want that roster spot filled by a point guard.. maybe Josh provides it though?

They need a big more than anything. After Chet you have Jaylin Williams, who's ok, but then what?

Guards are fine with Sga, Jalen, Giddey and Wallace handling most of the ball handling duties.
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Post#643 » by jayjaysee » Fri Feb 9, 2024 7:13 pm

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jayjaysee wrote:Couldn’t OKC use a vet guard? I know Cason is ready for more minutes but feel like you still want that roster spot filled by a point guard.. maybe Josh provides it though?

They need a big more than anything. After Chet you have Jaylin Williams, who's ok, but then what?

Guards are fine with Sga, Jalen, Giddey and Wallace handling most of the ball handling duties.


I was just comparing it to what they traded. They lose - (combined/ish) 10 minute backup point guard and gained a player they’ll likely shift around PF minutes

They definitely could use an actual big though.
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Post#644 » by babyjax13 » Fri Feb 9, 2024 7:15 pm

jayjaysee wrote:Couldn’t OKC use a vet guard? I know Cason is ready for more minutes but feel like you still want that roster spot filled by a point guard.. maybe Josh provides it though?

They just got Hayward who can be the defacto point guard in the second unit. He's very, very good as a teams primary decision maker.
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Post#645 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Fri Feb 9, 2024 7:22 pm

I could see OKC going with a big and an emergency ball handler like Cory Joseph. I hope they don't just convert the two ways.
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Post#646 » by HornetJail » Fri Feb 9, 2024 7:25 pm

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jayjaysee wrote:Couldn’t OKC use a vet guard? I know Cason is ready for more minutes but feel like you still want that roster spot filled by a point guard.. maybe Josh provides it though?

They just got Hayward who can be the defacto point guard in the second unit. He's very, very good as a teams primary decision maker.

He doesn't really have reliable enough handles to do that anymore. Still a good decision maker and passer but his handles have gotten a bit sketchy with age. You need another PG-ish player on the floor with him that can bring up the ball
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Post#648 » by jayjaysee » Fri Feb 9, 2024 7:32 pm

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jayjaysee wrote:Couldn’t OKC use a vet guard? I know Cason is ready for more minutes but feel like you still want that roster spot filled by a point guard.. maybe Josh provides it though?

They just got Hayward who can be the defacto point guard in the second unit. He's very, very good as a teams primary decision maker.

He doesn't really have reliable enough handles to do that anymore. Still a good decision maker and passer but his handles have gotten a bit sketchy with age. You need another PG-ish player on the floor with him that can bring up the ball


Yeah.. I think they’d want like a break glass vet. They have SGA. Then they have Cason they want getting experience and has looked good.. then Jalen, Giddey and Gordon (forgot about him though honestly)..

Think they’ll still end up getting a guard for one of the roster spots even with all that.
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Post#650 » by HadAnEffectHere » Fri Feb 9, 2024 9:02 pm

This is a such a funny WT.

Donovan Mitchell has solidified himself as a top 6-10 player in the NBA this year and was traded before for three prospects and four picks. Really guys?

The Hawks owe their picks to the Spurs and would only tank if they can trade Trae to the Spurs to get their picks back. Why would they want Laker picks?

And then there's Kyrie where it's like... Yeah, you could get him if Kyrie demanded a trade, but the Mavs would want real players and why are you putting Kyrie in the same universe with Donovan Mitchell or Trae? He never plays.
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Post#651 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Feb 9, 2024 9:04 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:This is a such a funny WT.

Donovan Mitchell has solidified himself as a top 6-10 player in the NBA this year and was traded before for three prospects and four picks. Really guys?

The Hawks owe their picks to the Spurs and would only tank if they can trade Trae to the Spurs to get their picks back. Why would they want Laker picks?

And then there's Kyrie where it's like... Yeah, you could get him if Kyrie demanded a trade, but the Mavs would want real players and why are you putting Kyrie in the same universe with Donovan Mitchell or Trae? He never plays.


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Post#652 » by toooskies » Fri Feb 9, 2024 9:20 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:This is a such a funny WT.

Donovan Mitchell has solidified himself as a top 6-10 player in the NBA this year and was traded before for three prospects and four picks. Really guys?

The Hawks owe their picks to the Spurs and would only tank if they can trade Trae to the Spurs to get their picks back. Why would they want Laker picks?

And then there's Kyrie where it's like... Yeah, you could get him if Kyrie demanded a trade, but the Mavs would want real players and why are you putting Kyrie in the same universe with Donovan Mitchell or Trae? He never plays.

LeBron has a better chance of being on the Cavs next year than Mitchell does on the Lakers.
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Post#654 » by zimpy27 » Fri Feb 9, 2024 10:47 pm

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HadAnEffectHere wrote:This is a such a funny WT.

Donovan Mitchell has solidified himself as a top 6-10 player in the NBA this year and was traded before for three prospects and four picks. Really guys?

The Hawks owe their picks to the Spurs and would only tank if they can trade Trae to the Spurs to get their picks back. Why would they want Laker picks?

And then there's Kyrie where it's like... Yeah, you could get him if Kyrie demanded a trade, but the Mavs would want real players and why are you putting Kyrie in the same universe with Donovan Mitchell or Trae? He never plays.

LeBron has a better chance of being on the Cavs next year than Mitchell does on the Lakers.


LeBron for Mitchell trade?


Lakers can put up Reaves+DLo+Rui+3xFRP+3xswaps in the offseason.

Mitchell expiring comes under that I'd say. It depends on how confident cavs are with keeping him
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Post#655 » by jayjaysee » Fri Feb 9, 2024 11:06 pm

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HadAnEffectHere wrote:This is a such a funny WT.

Donovan Mitchell has solidified himself as a top 6-10 player in the NBA this year and was traded before for three prospects and four picks. Really guys?

The Hawks owe their picks to the Spurs and would only tank if they can trade Trae to the Spurs to get their picks back. Why would they want Laker picks?

And then there's Kyrie where it's like... Yeah, you could get him if Kyrie demanded a trade, but the Mavs would want real players and why are you putting Kyrie in the same universe with Donovan Mitchell or Trae? He never plays.

LeBron has a better chance of being on the Cavs next year than Mitchell does on the Lakers.


LeBron for Mitchell trade?


Lakers can put up Reaves+DLo+Rui+3xFRP+3xswaps in the offseason.

Mitchell expiring comes under that I'd say. It depends on how confident cavs are with keeping him


Yeah, in the offseason LAL has enough for an expiring star.

The problem is Brooklyn has more assets and Mitchell seems to have ties to NY. So I don’t see Spida saying trade me to LAL and no where else..
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Post#656 » by jbk1234 » Fri Feb 9, 2024 11:19 pm

zimpy27 wrote:
toooskies wrote:
HadAnEffectHere wrote:This is a such a funny WT.

Donovan Mitchell has solidified himself as a top 6-10 player in the NBA this year and was traded before for three prospects and four picks. Really guys?

The Hawks owe their picks to the Spurs and would only tank if they can trade Trae to the Spurs to get their picks back. Why would they want Laker picks?

And then there's Kyrie where it's like... Yeah, you could get him if Kyrie demanded a trade, but the Mavs would want real players and why are you putting Kyrie in the same universe with Donovan Mitchell or Trae? He never plays.

LeBron has a better chance of being on the Cavs next year than Mitchell does on the Lakers.


LeBron for Mitchell trade?


Lakers can put up Reaves+DLo+Rui+3xFRP+3xswaps in the offseason.

Mitchell expiring comes under that I'd say. It depends on how confident cavs are with keeping him


The very first order of business this summer will be to extend Mitchell. If he extends, he's not going anywhere. If he doesn't, he'll go to whoever makes the best offer.
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Post#657 » by babyjax13 » Fri Feb 9, 2024 11:33 pm

Not worth a thread, but I suspect Utah's moves were to move up slightly, especially if we lose our pick, e.g.,

Let's assume standings right now are very similar to what they will be at the end of the season:

MIL trades: 2024 MIL 1st (23)
UTA tradaes: 2024 OKC 1st (27), 2024 WAS 2nd (32)

Milwaukee is going to be a tax-paying team, so this lets them fill out the back end of the rotation with cheap players. Utah already has a lot of young players, so moves up a bit to have more choice.
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Post#659 » by zimpy27 » Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:15 am

jayjaysee wrote:
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toooskies wrote:LeBron has a better chance of being on the Cavs next year than Mitchell does on the Lakers.


LeBron for Mitchell trade?


Lakers can put up Reaves+DLo+Rui+3xFRP+3xswaps in the offseason.

Mitchell expiring comes under that I'd say. It depends on how confident cavs are with keeping him


Yeah, in the offseason LAL has enough for an expiring star.

The problem is Brooklyn has more assets and Mitchell seems to have ties to NY. So I don’t see Spida saying trade me to LAL and no where else..


Agree. I don't see this as a realistic target. Just news cycle stuff.
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Post#660 » by TheNetsFan » Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:20 am

jbk1234 wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
toooskies wrote:LeBron has a better chance of being on the Cavs next year than Mitchell does on the Lakers.


LeBron for Mitchell trade?


Lakers can put up Reaves+DLo+Rui+3xFRP+3xswaps in the offseason.

Mitchell expiring comes under that I'd say. It depends on how confident cavs are with keeping him


The very first order of business this summer will be to extend Mitchell. If he extends, he's not going anywhere. If he doesn't, he'll go to whoever makes the best offer.

Agreed, but it would be similar to Siakam. His agent is going to let teams know where he's willing to extend/re-sign. Teams aren't going to pay up if he's not committed to sticking around.

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