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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1841 » by BliscoSantos » Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:25 pm

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If max. player will be nonstop hurt, Mavs are doomed no matter what. We have enough guards. The only team in Nba with 2 superstar guards and you want more of them? Even Dinwiddie knows that, that's why he has chosen Lakers.


Yeah,another PG would help...or would you rather risk an injury to Luka by overplaying him?? Playing slika and Kyrie 40 minutes a game for the rest of the season is a recipe for an injury
Dinwiddie went to the Lakers cause he's from California and because of LeBron....good luck to him but I hope the Lakers crash and burn this year and that they make a desperation trade for Trae in the summer


Dinwiddie can't do what Kyrie and Luka are doing, so even if we would have gotten Dinwiddie, Luka would still be playing 40+ minutes, if Kyrie was out. He's playing 40 minutes even with Kyrie. Dinwiddie could be only Exum replacement and that has 0 influence on Luka's minutes.

The only chance for Mavs doing something this year is luck with injuries in remainder of the season.


Because Kyrie is playing the SG...SG is also his best positional fit despite the lack of size... How many games did the Mavs play with a healthy trio of Luka,Kyrie and Exum...you know,games where they actually had three PG available?? Hardy and Green playing the PG position ,Just because they have to, is hard to watch...they can bring the ball up but that's about it
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1842 » by BliscoSantos » Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:31 pm

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Mr B wrote:So what is everyone’s problem with Marcus Morris?


They want another guard. :roll:

I mean a guard would help but personally I want size. The Mavs have to go through Denver and Minnesota who both have elite big men. The Morris twins won’t shut them down but they will bother Jokic for sure.


You have PJ,Maxi,Markieff,Lively,Gafford and Powell and even Omax(though he's not playing)...you can even count DJJ cause he played the four a lot and has the wingspan... I Just don't see a big difference between the Morris brothers, they both look done
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1843 » by Mr B » Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:45 pm

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They want another guard. :roll:

I mean a guard would help but personally I want size. The Mavs have to go through Denver and Minnesota who both have elite big men. The Morris twins won’t shut them down but they will bother Jokic for sure.


You have PJ,Maxi,Markieff,Lively,Gafford and Powell and even Omax(though he's not playing)...you can even count DJJ cause he played the four a lot and has the wingspan... I Just don't see a big difference between the Morris brothers, they both look done

Markief is definitely done. He hasn’t been the same since Jokic took him out. Mary’s can still play though. Also if your plan is to throw Powell, OMax, and DJJ at Jokic, Towns, or Gobert well we might as well shut the season down right now. The. Oreos twins have a way of getting under peoples skin and taking them out of their game. Plus with as young as this team is they need a veteran presence.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1844 » by Bob8 » Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:48 pm

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Yeah,another PG would help...or would you rather risk an injury to Luka by overplaying him?? Playing slika and Kyrie 40 minutes a game for the rest of the season is a recipe for an injury
Dinwiddie went to the Lakers cause he's from California and because of LeBron....good luck to him but I hope the Lakers crash and burn this year and that they make a desperation trade for Trae in the summer


Dinwiddie can't do what Kyrie and Luka are doing, so even if we would have gotten Dinwiddie, Luka would still be playing 40+ minutes, if Kyrie was out. He's playing 40 minutes even with Kyrie. Dinwiddie could be only Exum replacement and that has 0 influence on Luka's minutes.

The only chance for Mavs doing something this year is luck with injuries in remainder of the season.


Because Kyrie is playing the SG...SG is also his best positional fit despite the lack of size... How many games did the Mavs play with a healthy trio of Luka,Kyrie and Exum...you know,games where they actually had three PG available?? Hardy and Green playing the PG position ,Just because they have to, is hard to watch...they can bring the ball up but that's about it


Like I said, he would be Exum replacement, so yes, that would help Mavs, when Exum is out. But Mavs problem is different, there's no system designed by coach, Luka is the system, which basically means, he must be on court as much as possible, Dinwiddie couldn't changed that. It would be nice to have him on the bench, but he can't change Mavs' season. 2 things can change Mavs' season, health and, if they can start playing much better D.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1845 » by tleikheen » Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:01 pm

LOL ,Im so glad there wont be a Dorian Finney Smith and now no Spencer Dinwiddie suiting up for the Mavs ..... so many want to go backwards and reminisce about the good times with them
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Post#1846 » by Mavrelous » Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:37 pm

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Post#1847 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 11, 2024 7:02 am

After that showing last night, there is little to no need for Dinwiddie as he is a free agent. He will need to sign a new long term contract (possibly the last of his career) and you don't want to be that team handing that out.

Just hold the fort at PG and sign DSJ as backup PG in the summer. He's a free agent and Doncic can help recruit back now with Carlisle and Donnie gone. DSJ's would not need a max contract to lure in and his defense at his position has greatly improved.
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Post#1848 » by Oscar9992 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:52 pm

Wish Mavs got rid of Powell for a back up PG.
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Post#1849 » by Archx » Sun Feb 11, 2024 3:00 pm

arkuo wrote:After that showing last night, there is little to no need for Dinwiddie as he is a free agent


A reliable source told me and Mavrelous that they heard Dinwiddie yelling at his agent because he said he wants to join the Mavericks and his agent apparently thought Mavericks are in the LA. Oh well.. :-?
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1850 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:00 pm

Will Jerami Grant be an upgrade for Josh Green at SF?

At some point, Portland will want to get out of Jerami Grant's contract as that team is rebuilding.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1851 » by Mr B » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:25 pm

arkuo wrote:Will Jerami Grant be an upgrade for Josh Green at SF?

At some point, Portland will want to get out of Jerami Grant's contract as that team is rebuilding.

De’Andre Hunter might be a cheaper (and younger) option.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1852 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:39 pm

Mr B wrote:
arkuo wrote:Will Jerami Grant be an upgrade for Josh Green at SF?

At some point, Portland will want to get out of Jerami Grant's contract as that team is rebuilding.

De’Andre Hunter might be a cheaper (and younger) option.


Why not Trey Murphy III, Tari Eason...I kind of like Avdija but I think it would be more beneficial to add an athletic SF/PF hybrid...who are the Young Players that fit that profile?
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1853 » by Mavrelous » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:46 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:
Mr B wrote:
arkuo wrote:Will Jerami Grant be an upgrade for Josh Green at SF?

At some point, Portland will want to get out of Jerami Grant's contract as that team is rebuilding.

De’Andre Hunter might be a cheaper (and younger) option.


Why not Trey Murphy III, Tari Eason...I kind of like Avdija but I think it would be more beneficial to add an athletic SF/PF hybrid...who are the Young Players that fit that profile?

These guys aren't available, Jerami Grant is a cap killer I really prefer to steer clear from him.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1854 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:08 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
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Mr B wrote:De’Andre Hunter might be a cheaper (and younger) option.


Why not Trey Murphy III, Tari Eason...I kind of like Avdija but I think it would be more beneficial to add an athletic SF/PF hybrid...who are the Young Players that fit that profile?

These guys aren't available, Jerami Grant is a cap killer I really prefer to steer clear from him.


I know they aren't that's why I was asking if there are any similar young players who might be
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1855 » by Mavrelous » Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:14 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:
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Why not Trey Murphy III, Tari Eason...I kind of like Avdija but I think it would be more beneficial to add an athletic SF/PF hybrid...who are the Young Players that fit that profile?

These guys aren't available, Jerami Grant is a cap killer I really prefer to steer clear from him.


I know they aren't that's why I was asking if there are any similar young players who might be


This profile is in very high demand, your best bet is to develop someone (like the Mavs are trying to do with Prosper) or trade for someone not valued highly or is in bad situation (like Mavs did with PJW).
Hunter falls under the 2nd category, he's oft injured, and his impact hasn't been great.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1856 » by Mr B » Sun Feb 11, 2024 7:10 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:These guys aren't available, Jerami Grant is a cap killer I really prefer to steer clear from him.


I know they aren't that's why I was asking if there are any similar young players who might be


This profile is in very high demand, your best bet is to develop someone (like the Mavs are trying to do with Prosper) or trade for someone not valued highly or is in bad situation (like Mavs did with PJW).
Hunter falls under the 2nd category, he's oft injured, and his impact hasn't been great.

OMax could be that guy if they allow him time to develop. By this time next season OMax could be that big athletic wing we need
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1857 » by BliscoSantos » Sun Feb 11, 2024 7:21 pm

Mr B wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:
I know they aren't that's why I was asking if there are any similar young players who might be


This profile is in very high demand, your best bet is to develop someone (like the Mavs are trying to do with Prosper) or trade for someone not valued highly or is in bad situation (like Mavs did with PJW).
Hunter falls under the 2nd category, he's oft injured, and his impact hasn't been great.

OMax could be that guy if they allow him time to develop. By this time next season OMax could be that big athletic wing we need


Unless he makes a significant jump in developement I doubt that...JKidd didn't even give him playing time with all the injuries...he played 4 guard lineups instead of giving him a chance so I'll say that is unlikely
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1858 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 11, 2024 7:25 pm

Omax needs a shot on some playing time. OG Anunoby averaged 5 pts in his rookie year, picked at #23, similar to Omax.

Unfortunately for Omax, it's a contending team and we're chasing wins. There aren't a lot of "developmental" minutes to be given around a team chasing a playoff spot.

Dallas wont be able to trade Omax. They have difficulty trading THJ even when he's playing good. Omax is signed on for 4 more years. So in case Derrick Jones Jr walks in the summer, Omax is the backup plan.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1859 » by arkuo » Sun Feb 11, 2024 7:26 pm

Mr B wrote:
arkuo wrote:Will Jerami Grant be an upgrade for Josh Green at SF?

At some point, Portland will want to get out of Jerami Grant's contract as that team is rebuilding.

De’Andre Hunter might be a cheaper (and younger) option.



Been seeing a lot of Hawks fans complaining that Hunter might be the problem there. Either he's not playing up to his contract of that's just his ceiling.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread 

Post#1860 » by tleikheen » Sun Feb 11, 2024 7:36 pm

OMax and Hardy are on a contending team and they get to see what it takes to be ready when they get a chance . I think when all are healthy it will Luka ,Kyrie ,Dante ,PJ , & Gaff starting . With Lively ,Green,THJ,DJJ,& Maxi as the 2nd unit . OMax and Hardy will be the young guys learning and getting themselves ready for when they get to play.

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