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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#181 » by dubasilva » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:19 pm

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DayofMourning wrote:7'3" Kristaps getting the interview on OUR floor. No truer symbolism.


So do we all still believe Bam is a Center?


Arguably the most successful team in the league over the last 5 season so kind of hard to argue


I can't remember winning the NBA title.
I love Bam, and I know you do too. Please don't take me wrong.

The league is bigger. Look at this year's first pick overall. Like Bosh, Bam needs to continue developing his shot and becoming a PF.

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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#182 » by DayofMourning » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:19 pm

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dubasilva wrote:
So do we all still believe Bam is a Center?


Bam's been a forward since day 1 for me, but the masses think different. Pretty clear for me but whatever.

Without a 3pt shot, he's a center with everyone shooting 3s, moving him to center means having to find a good 3pt shooting center which is much harder to acquire vs a 3pt shooting PF.


Maybe. Orlando and Dedman both could hit 3s. Fairly relevant these days compared to years past. We dont place value on rim protection as a staple of defense. Therefore, we wont be seeing real Cs here anytime soon.
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#183 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:20 pm

Daffy wrote:We just don't have an offense. I don't know it's player we have or if it's Spo can't scheme an offense but we don't have an offense. People think we're better with Duncan starting and point to the run we went to in the playoffs. No. It's not that. It's Jimmy Butler. It's pretty pathetic we can only generate an efficient and scoring offense when Jimmy's usage is higher than normal.


He’s your superstar for a reason but yea having like $75M a year invested in Herro Duncan and Rozier for them all to struggle to score consistently in Heat jerseys (Rozier was coking before coming) is probably not a recipe for success
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#184 » by Daffy » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:20 pm

Brown, Porzingis, and Tatum have taken the bulk of the Celtics shots as their top players. Meanwhile Miami is over here playing equal opportunity on offense. **** stop with this equal opportunity bull.
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#185 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:20 pm

dubasilva wrote:
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So do we all still believe Bam is a Center?


Arguably the most successful team in the league over the last 5 season so kind of hard to argue


I can't remember winning the NBA title.
I love Bam, and I know you do too. Please don't take me wrong.

The league is bigger. Look at this year's first pick overall. Like Bosh, Bam needs to continue developing his shot and becoming a PF.

Just my opinion.


That’s moreso on the FO not going all in imo
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#186 » by SerialChiller » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:21 pm

Daffy wrote:We just don't have an offense. I don't know it's player we have or if it's Spo can't scheme an offense but we don't have an offense. People think we're better with Duncan starting and point to the run we went to in the playoffs. No. It's not that. It's Jimmy Butler. It's pretty pathetic we can only generate an efficient and scoring offense when Jimmy's usage is higher than normal.


Other than Jimmy nobody gets to the line except Bam, and he needs someone to get him the ball in order to do so as well. Rozier I think will be the 3rd guy who can and JJJ at least 1 of those 2 need to be getting consistent attacks and FTs. It's been this way for years thought, honestly it's Spo...people just don't want to see it. It's just anyone bring it up, pass it around let the clock drain fire up a shot lol....
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#187 » by Daffy » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:21 pm

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Daffy wrote:We just don't have an offense. I don't know it's player we have or if it's Spo can't scheme an offense but we don't have an offense. People think we're better with Duncan starting and point to the run we went to in the playoffs. No. It's not that. It's Jimmy Butler. It's pretty pathetic we can only generate an efficient and scoring offense when Jimmy's usage is higher than normal.


He’s your superstar for a reason but yea having like $75M a year invested in Herro Duncan and Rozier for them all to struggle to score consistently in Heat jerseys (Rozier was coking before coming) is probably not a recipe for success


Trust me I get that he's our star, but I'm saying it shouldn't always have to be dependent on Butler carrying us in a regular season and he doesn't so that's why we struggle in the reg season. I'm all for him going all out in the playoffs though.
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#188 » by fishfuego. » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:22 pm

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Blue Cephalopod wrote:How many points does Herro have?


Herro is a piece. Not THE guy. Having a more well rounded system would showcase more impactful results.

This right here :lol:
Herro is not a superstar, and won’t net better talent. The real problem is the front office. Just take a look at the Celtics acquisition this season, Porzingis size and skills. The Heat could at least have targeted him, but it is not in the mystical blueprint of the current front office.
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#189 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:22 pm

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AirP. wrote:It may be a little late for Miami to move him. That contract may be a deterrent.


Surely they’ll at least look into at the trade deadline, when is it?

You mean the Feb. 8 trade deadline?


Oh ****, did I sleep through it and miss it like Pat?!
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#190 » by Daffy » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:22 pm

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Daffy wrote:We just don't have an offense. I don't know it's player we have or if it's Spo can't scheme an offense but we don't have an offense. People think we're better with Duncan starting and point to the run we went to in the playoffs. No. It's not that. It's Jimmy Butler. It's pretty pathetic we can only generate an efficient and scoring offense when Jimmy's usage is higher than normal.


Other than Jimmy nobody gets to the line except Bam, and he needs someone to get him the ball in order to do so as well. Rozier I think will be the 3rd guy who can and JJJ at least 1 of those 2 need to be getting consistent attacks and FTs. It's been this way for years thought, honestly it's Spo...people just don't want to see it. It's just anyone bring it up, pass it around let the clock drain fire up a shot lol....


I agree with you. Spo hasn't been great at scheming up an offense. Great defensive mind but damn man.
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#191 » by SerialChiller » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:24 pm

Daffy wrote:
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Daffy wrote:We just don't have an offense. I don't know it's player we have or if it's Spo can't scheme an offense but we don't have an offense. People think we're better with Duncan starting and point to the run we went to in the playoffs. No. It's not that. It's Jimmy Butler. It's pretty pathetic we can only generate an efficient and scoring offense when Jimmy's usage is higher than normal.


Other than Jimmy nobody gets to the line except Bam, and he needs someone to get him the ball in order to do so as well. Rozier I think will be the 3rd guy who can and JJJ at least 1 of those 2 need to be getting consistent attacks and FTs. It's been this way for years thought, honestly it's Spo...people just don't want to see it. It's just anyone bring it up, pass it around let the clock drain fire up a shot lol....


I agree with you. Spo hasn't been great at scheming up an offense. Great defensive mind but damn man.


I'll never get over how he didn't run Wade and Lebron pick and rolls almost ever with Wade handling. Would of been unstoppable...Even now where are the Rozier Bam ones...like 3 times a game max so far lol?
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#192 » by Daffy » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:24 pm

Could have had Bradley Beal for peanuts. Look what he's over there doing on 14 shots a night. Smh
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#193 » by Bourne85 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:25 pm

The other teams went out and spent money and upgraded. Boston was already a a nasty lineup and they went out and for Jrue and KP. We here trying to cut salary and upgrade at the same time. Hoping for g league miracles. Doesn’t work. The miracle flukes stop this year
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#194 » by DayofMourning » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:26 pm

Bam Anthony almost had that.
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#195 » by Wiltside » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:27 pm

Sigh. Here we go again.
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#196 » by DayofMourning » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:27 pm

fishfuego. wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
Blue Cephalopod wrote:How many points does Herro have?


Herro is a piece. Not THE guy. Having a more well rounded system would showcase more impactful results.

This right here :lol:
Herro is not a superstar, and won’t net better talent. The real problem is the front office. Just take a look at the Celtics acquisition this season, Porzingis size and skills. The Heat could at least have targeted him, but it is not in the mystical blueprint of the current front office.


I was a fan of netting Kristaps. I could see the other side though-injuries. But look at that tall boy go. Hes our daddy now.
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#197 » by SerialChiller » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:28 pm

Bourne85 wrote:The other teams went out and spent money and upgraded. Boston was already a a nasty lineup and they went out and for Jrue and KP. We here trying to cut salary and upgrade at the same time. Hoping for g league miracles. Doesn’t work. The miracle flukes stop this year


I'm finding myself agreeing with more and more of your posts now lol. I might have to start calling you the Bourne Supremacy instead of the Bourne negativity soon since I'm almost as negative now myself :lol: .
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#198 » by wade44 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:28 pm

Hard to watch this. Days like today you want to trade everybody and not look back
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#199 » by MartianTimeSlip » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:28 pm

Herro so far...
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#200 » by AirP. » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:29 pm

A little context to KP hurt in the first half (I didn't see this replay).
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