2023-2024 Official Around the NBA Discussion Thread

[SOUL]

Gafford being the best center out of whole Vuc-WCJ Bulls situation is kinda funny

[eyriq]

I just can’t believe Fultz gets all these minutes and he only puts up 8.6 a game and is terrified to shoot 3s.

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[SOUL]

I just can’t believe Fultz gets all these minutes and he only puts up 8.6 a game and is terrified to shoot 3s.

Welcome to the club

Wrong thread.

[zaymon]

Masai is definitely getting fired. They decided to risk it all and build around Scottie, and in the process traded two better players. OG is one of the best 3 and D players in the league. Pascal is very good too.

Is Scottie ever going to be much better than Pascal? They've been trash since the trade and they still might lose their pick this year. In a couple of years they'll have more than 110 million between Scottie, RJ, IQ, Poeltl. Whats this teams ceiling? Masai should be on his knees every night praying for a lucky draft outcome, otherwise he's done.

They believed their own pr team hype around Barnes. Its not that he is not a good player, but he is limited going to the rim becouse he is stiff and he is not a good shooter becouse he is stiff. He also can defend the fastest players becouse he is stiff. So he is average to bad in all aspects that really matter in modern ball.
Franz Wagner is much better player and yet we tanked for another star becouse we knew we had too little to compete.

[eyriq]

I just can’t believe Fultz gets all these minutes and he only puts up 8.6 a game and is terrified to shoot 3s.

Welcome to the club

Wrong thread.

Sorry, getting used to my new schtick.

On topic though, wild that Philly and New York are both at 21 losses and we are only 3 losses back.

[pepe1991]

Gafford being the best center out of whole Vuc-WCJ Bulls situation is kinda funny

Imo that's always case with rim runners. They will fall into two categories: usless- great. Very little middle ground.

And it's never really up to them where execlly they will fall ( well, it is, but not that much).

Deandre Jordan would never had career if CP3 wasn't his teammate.
McGee was usless on Wizards, was considered biggest nba clown. But moving to first Nuggets, than Warriors, later Lakers turned him into role player ( on Lakers- starter) of two championship teams. He was pretty much same player he was on Wizards.

There are many other examples of same player, with no improvments, going from sucking to being great and reverse because of changes within roster or that player changing team.
Biyombo on Raptors vs Biyombo on Magic as good example.


Again, problem with rim runner is that those players are only useful if your starting ballhandler can find them and explore their unique skill (high pick&roll, finding great pocket passes, backdoor cuts etc). But if your ballhandler can't do it, you basically play 4 on 5 offense.


Gafford is now on team with best playmaker in a game ( is that questionable? I don't know, but top 3 at worst) and 10 times allstar guard Irving, his job is very simple, as soon as somebody traps pick&roll he just needs to rush toward rim to expect lob or defend potential missed shot.
And when you are 7 foot tall, with funcional jumping, you are literally mini jump away from dunk, it's not that hard

btw pay attention how every "poster" cuts floor from picture of person dunking. You know why?
Because in reality this is how it looks when 6'11 person dunks



Not that special ?
Guys can literally reach half of a net without leaping

[cedric76]

Gafford being the best center out of whole Vuc-WCJ Bulls situation is kinda funny

He isn't, however he landed in a great situation with Luka

[RookieStar]

You guys saw that end of gane foul by Brunson? Check all angles. Should it have been called or not? Is it a foul or not?

[Ugly0598]

I just can’t believe Fultz gets all these minutes and he only puts up 8.6 a game and is terrified to shoot 3s.

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It’s just hard defending the guy if he’s not averaging 11-14 PPG, and 4-5 rebounds, 6-7 assists per game like any other average point guard that can’t shoot like Shaun Livingston, Rajon Rondo, Andre Miller, Lonzo Ball for example.

He needs to be taking 2-3 3-point attempts to keep the defense honest. He should be whining to the refs for free throws/fouls and getting a technical once in a while.

He has to be more aggressive with his mid-range jumper & occasional 3s every night. He isn’t showing enough confidence and aggression.

I’m surprised the Orlando fans aren’t trying to get him going in practice.

[zaymon]

I just can’t believe Fultz gets all these minutes and he only puts up 8.6 a game and is terrified to shoot 3s.

Welcome to the club

It’s just hard defending the guy if he’s not averaging 11-14 PPG, and 4-5 rebounds, 6-7 assists per game like any other average point guard that can’t shoot like Shaun Livingston, Rajon Rondo, Andre Miller for example.

He needs to be taking 2-3 3-point attempts to keep the defense honest. He should be whining to the refs for free throws/fouls and getting a technical once in a while.

He has to be more aggressive with his mid-range jumper & occasional 3s every night. He isn’t showing enough confidence and aggression.

I’m surprised the Orlando fans aren’t trying to get him going in practice.

You are asking for a lot. I was attacked here many times for questioning his contribiution to the team for years, even this year.
A lot of questions not asked, blaming others, looking for excuses. I am not suprised Fultz loved it here after Phily. Easy money, no accountability. You heard the interview when he said he thinks there is nothing wrong with his shooting and he is a great creator ? Delusion created by soft media, and "family" atmosphere. Only good thing is front office came to its senses and he is most likely out after this season. When the push came to shove they chose Cole Anthony who has similar problems. They had the chance to make it work but they hid the head in the sand.

[pepe1991]

Spancer Dinwiddie has $1 extra bonus kicker if Lakers win a championship.
#Motivated

[meatwad4343]

I just can’t believe Fultz gets all these minutes and he only puts up 8.6 a game and is terrified to shoot 3s.

Welcome to the club

It’s just hard defending the guy if he’s not averaging 11-14 PPG, and 4-5 rebounds, 6-7 assists per game like any other average point guard that can’t shoot like Shaun Livingston, Rajon Rondo, Andre Miller, Lonzo Ball for example.

He needs to be taking 2-3 3-point attempts to keep the defense honest. He should be whining to the refs for free throws/fouls and getting a technical once in a while.

He has to be more aggressive with his mid-range jumper & occasional 3s every night. He isn’t showing enough confidence and aggression.

I’m surprised the Orlando fans aren’t trying to get him going in practice.

His lack of shooting and spacing make franz and Paulo actively worse since they can't do what they do best as effectively (drive to the rim) with teams able to clog the paint knowing fultz is zero threat to shoot from outside of the paint. He's gotta go

[basketballRob]

Masai is definitely getting fired. They decided to risk it all and build around Scottie, and in the process traded two better players. OG is one of the best 3 and D players in the league. Pascal is very good too.

Is Scottie ever going to be much better than Pascal? They've been trash since the trade and they still might lose their pick this year. In a couple of years they'll have more than 110 million between Scottie, RJ, IQ, Poeltl. Whats this teams ceiling? Masai should be on his knees every night praying for a lucky draft outcome, otherwise he's done.

They have to get into the bottom 6 to keep their pick. Memphis looks like they are all in on the tank now and could make it hard on them.

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[KillMonger]

Man.... Difference between a team with defense.... Wemby was doing none of that vs us

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[pepe1991]

Man.... Difference between a team with defense.... Wemby was doing none of that vs us

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In first game against us he had 21 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals, 5 blocks.

He is still learning. Next year i expect cartoonish numbers, like 25-11-3-3

[KillMonger]

Man.... Difference between a team with defense.... Wemby was doing none of that vs us

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In first game against us he had 21 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals, 5 blocks.

He is still learning. Next year i expect cartoonish numbers, like 25-11-3-3

yep....his numbers are going to be insane....and the spurs will probably still be in the lottery

[Ralof]

never thought for a moment if was not a generational player,but still could not believe how good Wemby is.
we are basically almost at point you have to change your gameplan for a game when you play against him.

with an average nba learning curve,in year 3- or 4 you gonna have to prepare post season differently against him,like to shots a lot mid two cause you simply can not get even near the pain,simply insane.

just hope he stays healthy,want to witness basketball history

[pepe1991]

Man.... Difference between a team with defense.... Wemby was doing none of that vs us

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In first game against us he had 21 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals, 5 blocks.

He is still learning. Next year i expect cartoonish numbers, like 25-11-3-3

yep....his numbers are going to be insane....and the spurs will probably still be in the lottery

Probably, they don't seem to be in any particular rush to do anything.

2024- own pick and Raptors pick if it falls to 7# or below
2025- own pick & Hawks pick without protection, Bulls pick with top 10 protection
2026- own pick, Hawks rights to swap

Like they can potentially add 5 lottery selected players in 2024 & 2025.

Oh, and they also have s*** load of free money to spend if they want to.

btw if you look 2025 draft there is guy named Khaman Maluach, he is 7'2 with 9'5 standing reach, imagine pairing him and Victor

[Skybox]

In first game against us he had 21 points, 8 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals, 5 blocks.

He is still learning. Next year i expect cartoonish numbers, like 25-11-3-3

yep....his numbers are going to be insane....and the spurs will probably still be in the lottery

Probably, they don't seem to be in any particular rush to do anything.

2024- own pick and Raptors pick if it falls to 7# or below
2025- own pick & Hawks pick without protection, Bulls pick with top 10 protection
2026- own pick, Hawks rights to swap

Like they can potentially add 5 lottery selected players in 2024 & 2025.

Oh, and they also have s*** load of free money to spend if they want to.

btw if you look 2025 draft there is guy named Khaman Maluach, he is 7'2 with 9'5 standing reach, imagine pairing him and Victor

Didn’t know Hawks 25 frp was out there with no protection…certainly would factor in any tank or rebuild decisions

[tiderulz]

Masai is definitely getting fired. They decided to risk it all and build around Scottie, and in the process traded two better players. OG is one of the best 3 and D players in the league. Pascal is very good too.

Is Scottie ever going to be much better than Pascal? They've been trash since the trade and they still might lose their pick this year. In a couple of years they'll have more than 110 million between Scottie, RJ, IQ, Poeltl. Whats this teams ceiling? Masai should be on his knees every night praying for a lucky draft outcome, otherwise he's done.

maybe he didnt want to pay a big contract to OG who hasnt been able to play 70 games since his rookie year. dude gets injured every year and personally i think his defense a little overrated