2023-2024 Regular Season Game 54: Oklahoma City Thunder (36-17) at Orlando Magic (29-24) - 7:30pm

[JF5]

Had a chance to get a head start on restructuring the team at the deadline.... Wanted to stand pat and keep the family together for a play-in/off run... This team isn't viable enough to make noise, we got a whole team full of streaky shooters at best.... Embarrassing, at least we didn't lose to the spurs but still.... You'd want a better account of yourself on national TV... Only to have the play by play clown you and point out the most obvious problem everybody can see except our front office.

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Make noise? You mean instead of winning 1 playoff games they'd win 2, maybe?

This delusional belief by adding 1-2 new players with young star players and young core in general who've never playoffs before would be some sort of dark horse is laughable. They won't even make it out of the 1st round.

On top of that they'd have to build enough chemistry within a 2 month time span. They wouldn't be able to really rely on more advance offensive sets.

It's about getting experience. Next year will be about advancing/being competitive enough.

[CocoaFan]

It seems like we never have an offensive rhythm with 2 days off.

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But PBs statline and trip team can give you ammo for the arguements in the GB right?

Just joking.

Yep, obviously Paolo is better than Chet.

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I agree but they are different kind of players. Paolo was definitely the best choice for the Magic.

[Optimus_Steel]

Hope people understand this team is still quite young

Everyone knows we are young the issue is that this team has been a God awful 3pt shooting team for over a decade in a modern 3pt league and the front office has done minimal work to improve that giant glaring weakness. They are so passive.

[SOUL]

I'm a Rangers fan, Chiefs fan, Golden Knights fan, and will be a fan of whoever wins the NBA championship this year. Sorry, my mod powers are transferring to whatever team that is.

[KillMonger]

Cole/ -14
Gary/ -8
Moe/ -17
Joe/ -11
JI/ -24

besides JI, this matches the eye test.....this is the bench we have to ride with the rest of the season

[IllMagic04]

I’m really not too mad. The Thunder are better. We can’t spread the floor. This game didn’t tell us anything we didn’t already know

[byeganyo]

This refusal to give the opponent credit when the Magic lose that some of y'all often do is quite perplexing.

OK are clearly the better team or we are clearly the worse - potato potato.
No one managed to shine on our side
Suggs started hot, made 4 out of his 5 3pt attempts, then missed 7 consecutive ones.
Franz started cold and finished cold.

[VFX]

Had a chance to get a head start on restructuring the team at the deadline.... Wanted to stand pat and keep the family together for a play-in/off run... This team isn't viable enough to make noise, we got a whole team full of streaky shooters at best.... Embarrassing, at least we didn't lose to the spurs but still.... You'd want a better account of yourself on national TV... Only to have the play by play clown you and point out the most obvious problem everybody can see except our front office.

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Make noise? You mean instead of winning 1 playoff games they'd win 2, maybe?

This delusional belief by adding 1-2 new players with young star players and young core in general who've never playoffs before would be some sort of dark horse is laughable. They won't even make it out of the 1st round.

On top of that they'd have to build enough chemistry within a 2 month time span. They wouldn't be able to really rely on more advance offensive sets.

It's about getting experience. Next year will be about advancing/being competitive enough.

As much as you might think this is a good point…

The argument wasn’t only about the trade deadline this season… it was the offseason and prior season as well.

[ChosenSavior]

man, i don't think it's ever been clearer that Fultz is on his way out.....

His minutes are going down since he came back. He barely played in the 2nd half.

[BCS]

The magic has run out with Ingles and Cole is in his head. If those two are playing major minute for us next year, the FO isn't serious about winning. Same goes for Gary Harris.

Ideally we start taking them out of the rotation this year but with Coles new contract that is unlikely as he will become dead money. I hope they would start to at least give Jett or Black, Ingles minutes and let Ingles be a vet coach from the bench.

I honestly do not see how Jett is a worse defender than Ingles. Shooting wise, Jett should be fine if he gets the same looks as Ingles. Ingles sure has more experience but that's about it. Jett at least would try defensively.

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[thelead]

Hope people understand this team is still quite young

Yes but so is OKC. Obviously, the big difference is 1) They have an MVP caliber player in his prime 2) They chose/developed shooters while we chose/developed #family

[Skybox]

man, i don't think it's ever been clearer that Fultz is on his way out.....

I was in and out of the room...now that I think of it, did Black even play?

I'm not the biggest AB fan in the world, but why is Fultz even starting at this point? Honestly, a buyout would have made more sense.
...is it just this "family" thing?

looking at the box score now. AB got 2 mins of garbage time...same as, perhaps, the 2 best pure 3pt shooters (prospects but still) on the roster. It's almost like a stubborn defiance thing at this point..."we DON'T need shooters - we need more defense"

[fateis007]

Had a chance to get a head start on restructuring the team at the deadline.... Wanted to stand pat and keep the family together for a play-in/off run... This team isn't viable enough to make noise, we got a whole team full of streaky shooters at best.... Embarrassing, at least we didn't lose to the spurs but still.... You'd want a better account of yourself on national TV... Only to have the play by play clown you and point out the most obvious problem everybody can see except our front office.

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Make noise? You mean instead of winning 1 playoff games they'd win 2, maybe?

This delusional belief by adding 1-2 new players with young star players and young core in general who've never playoffs before would be some sort of dark horse is laughable. They won't even make it out of the 1st round.

On top of that they'd have to build enough chemistry within a 2 month time span. They wouldn't be able to really rely on more advance offensive sets.

It's about getting experience. Next year will be about advancing/being competitive enough.

Do you really think this is just about free agency this year? Yes, obviously them making a move and showing an attempt at moving towards the issue would have given the fans some optimism that they arent entirely oblivous to a multi year issue.

But this is about us being a bottom 5 shooting team, 5 years in a row. And we get lucky, get a #1 draft pick, and keep that same **** offense around him.

[BadMofoPimp]

Had a chance to get a head start on restructuring the team at the deadline.... Wanted to stand pat and keep the family together for a play-in/off run... This team isn't viable enough to make noise, we got a whole team full of streaky shooters at best.... Embarrassing, at least we didn't lose to the spurs but still.... You'd want a better account of yourself on national TV... Only to have the play by play clown you and point out the most obvious problem everybody can see except our front office.

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Make noise? You mean instead of winning 1 playoff games they'd win 2, maybe?

This delusional belief by adding 1-2 new players with young star players and young core in general who've never playoffs before would be some sort of dark horse is laughable. They won't even make it out of the 1st round.

On top of that they'd have to build enough chemistry within a 2 month time span. They wouldn't be able to really rely on more advance offensive sets.

It's about getting experience. Next year will be about advancing/being competitive enough.

As much as you might think this is a good point…

The argument wasn’t only about the trade deadline this season… it was the offseason and prior season as well.

Regardless, this is a team that may increase their wins by 12 games on consecutive seasons. I don't understand complaining when they are growing and improving each year impressively without having to resort to giving up assets to do so.

[VFX]

Hope people understand this team is still quite young

Yes but so is OKC. Obviously, the big difference is 1) They have an MVP caliber player in his prime 2) They chose/developed shooter while we chose/developed #family

OKC are a better team because they have a better front office. They constructed a roster that makes sense and didn’t waste 4-5 seasons doing nothing drafting busts.

[KillMonger]

Had a chance to get a head start on restructuring the team at the deadline.... Wanted to stand pat and keep the family together for a play-in/off run... This team isn't viable enough to make noise, we got a whole team full of streaky shooters at best.... Embarrassing, at least we didn't lose to the spurs but still.... You'd want a better account of yourself on national TV... Only to have the play by play clown you and point out the most obvious problem everybody can see except our front office.

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Make noise? You mean instead of winning 1 playoff games they'd win 2, maybe?

This delusional belief by adding 1-2 new players with young star players and young core in general who've never playoffs before would be some sort of dark horse is laughable. They won't even make it out of the 1st round.

On top of that they'd have to build enough chemistry within a 2 month time span. They wouldn't be able to really rely on more advance offensive sets.

It's about getting experience. Next year will be about advancing/being competitive enough.

don't want to hear none of this man, lakers were able to damn near bring in a whole new team at the deadline last season and had enough time to gel.....i don't expect the same result.....i just expect the front office to do their jobs and start addressing problems and they easily could've.....the answer we got was more or less we didn't want to break up the family and block development...so are we not trying to win games? i don't know with this front office

[eyriq]

For all the negativity about the front office they've clearly initiated a slow motion rebuild of the backcourt. Fultz and Harris are expiring and they invested lotto picks in their replacements.

There was even smoke about a trade for a PG and shooter at the deadline, indicating that they considered speeding up the rebuild. They know what we need. The smoke about trading WCJ is especially interesting.

[JF5]

Had a chance to get a head start on restructuring the team at the deadline.... Wanted to stand pat and keep the family together for a play-in/off run... This team isn't viable enough to make noise, we got a whole team full of streaky shooters at best.... Embarrassing, at least we didn't lose to the spurs but still.... You'd want a better account of yourself on national TV... Only to have the play by play clown you and point out the most obvious problem everybody can see except our front office.

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Make noise? You mean instead of winning 1 playoff games they'd win 2, maybe?

This delusional belief by adding 1-2 new players with young star players and young core in general who've never playoffs before would be some sort of dark horse is laughable. They won't even make it out of the 1st round.

On top of that they'd have to build enough chemistry within a 2 month time span. They wouldn't be able to really rely on more advance offensive sets.

It's about getting experience. Next year will be about advancing/being competitive enough.

As much as you might think this is a good point…

The argument wasn’t only about the trade deadline this season… it was the offseason and prior season as well.

the Magic who were still in the business of losing games last year and trying to be in the running of potentially getting that French freak who is now in San Antonio or getting a high draft pick NEEDED to make trades last year? Really?

I can't stop laughing at this

The delusions are hilarious.

[thelead]

For all the negativity about the front office they've clearly initiated a slow motion rebuild of the backcourt. Fultz and Harris are expiring and they invested lotto picks in their replacements.

There was even smoke about a trade for a PG and shooter at the deadline, indicating that they considered speeding up the rebuild. They know what we need. The smoke about trading WCJ is especially interesting.

If Candace Parker is pointing out our terrible shooting on national television, I'm sure Anthony Parker is well aware of what is needed. Hell, everyone knows if we're being honest. Whether they can actually get the job done and grab the right players is the real question. We have no clue if Weltman and Parker are capable of building a competent roster.

[ChosenSavior]

The rotation definitely needs some fine tuning. Have a few guys who are giving us nothing with their minutes. Just shortens our already miniscule margin of error to win.