Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24

[Celts17Pride]

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Everyone wants to play with Kyrie and Luka

That's WILD. "Go play with Luka and Kyrie? nah let me just rot in Washington with Poole"

Eh. living in DC making 25 mil a year while playing under 0 pressure sounds better to me than having to deal with Kyrie every day

Living in DC sounds absolutely terrible

[BK_2020]

That's WILD. "Go play with Luka and Kyrie? nah let me just rot in Washington with Poole"

Eh. living in DC making 25 mil a year while playing under 0 pressure sounds better to me than having to deal with Kyrie every day

Living in DC sounds absolutely terrible

All the players probably live in Maryland or Virginia.

[Hal14]

Perhaps Brad is waiting to see if someone better gets waived/bought out like Cedi Osman or Delon Wright, since the available players right now is pretty underwhelming..

[jfs1000d]

Where has the gallo talk come from?

[CelticsPride18]

Perhaps Brad is waiting to see if someone better gets waived/bought out like Cedi Osman or Delon Wright, since the available players right now is pretty underwhelming..

We don’t have a lot of playing time so I doubt they consider us. I wanted Thad Young because he would have been a got vet to have in the locker room

[CelticsPride18]

Hot take: There's a better chance we sign JD Davison to a 4-year contract (via Second Round Exception, if that's possible) than sign Queta to a 2-year deal.

But my prediction is we sign neither to regular contracts. Use final roster spot to someone we never saw coming.

Blake on the last game of the season.

[Riverwalk2021]

I wouldn't mind Gallo. He can still put the ball in the bucket. That's an area where our bench sucks. If Hauser or Pritchard are unplayable, he gives you a different look. Any other better scoring options out there?

[Parasite]

That's WILD. "Go play with Luka and Kyrie? nah let me just rot in Washington with Poole"

Eh. living in DC making 25 mil a year while playing under 0 pressure sounds better to me than having to deal with Kyrie every day

Living in DC sounds absolutely terrible

For the regular guy it is. If you are super rich it’s a different story. Just like all leftist run cities.

[zoyathedestroya]

We might not hear about buyout signings until after the AS weekend, where players, GMs, and agents can mingle and iron out stuff. Thad Young caught me by surprise but makes sense for the Suns. I still want a vet for the 15th spot. Like 3x champ Danny Green would be nice. I don't need him to play. Is there a current 2020 version of Rondo? Still iffy about relying on PP as a backup PG or they could just run with an 8-man rotation that doesn't include him for the most part -- JT, JB, JH, KP, DW, AH, XT, SH.

[zoyathedestroya]

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Suns have this weird 21 man roster dispensation.

[snowman]

Totally Agree with all this. -- The only one's that I wonder about are our Two-Ways, Queta, Davison and Peterson.
They have all done well this year. And I think that it's time to move them up; except maybe Peterson.

JD = will be on his 3rd yr, so the Celtics cannot re-sign him to a Two-Way.
Queta = should Not be on a Two-Way. Though, I do believe that he is eligible for another year.
Peterson = has 3 more years of eligibility.

You can only be on a 2-way for 3 years. And you can only be on a 2-way for 2 years with the same franchise.

So this is the last season JD can be on a 2-way for us..but he could sign a 2-way for a different team next season. Queta can't be on a 2-way for any team after this season. And Peterson has 2 more seasons he's eligible for a 2-way, but only 1 more season he can be on a 2-way for Boston. With that being said, Peterson turns 25 early next season - you don't typically see guys that old on a 2-way..

They changed it from 3 years on Two-Ways, to 4 years.

I could not find this info, but thought I'd remember hearing about this. I will take your word for it though. I would love a link about this info if you have it. I also thought I heard NBA planning on moving the number of 2-way contracts per team up until it reaches 6 per team. Any news on this?

However, in looking at the years of service of Queta, Davison and Peterson, Queta shows 2 years of service, three after this year, Davison shows 1 year of service, 2 years after this one, and Peterson shows 0 years of service, 1 after this one. With that being said, a decision on Queta would need to come first, before Davison or Peterson, be it this season or next if they can have 4 years of service.
I can see Queta having a career as a backup center for us more so than Davison as a backup point guard. Maybe it's because I have seen Queta with the big club so much more than Davison, or it could be because Danny ruined me on 6', 6'1 point guards. I have however, in my mind, made the exception for Pritchard.
I do expect Queta to be signed by the end of the season so he will be eligible for the playoff roster.

[zoyathedestroya]

You can only be on a 2-way for 3 years. And you can only be on a 2-way for 2 years with the same franchise.

So this is the last season JD can be on a 2-way for us..but he could sign a 2-way for a different team next season. Queta can't be on a 2-way for any team after this season. And Peterson has 2 more seasons he's eligible for a 2-way, but only 1 more season he can be on a 2-way for Boston. With that being said, Peterson turns 25 early next season - you don't typically see guys that old on a 2-way..

They changed it from 3 years on Two-Ways, to 4 years.

I could not find this info, but thought I'd remember hearing about this. I will take your word for it though. I would love a link about this info if you have it. I also thought I heard NBA planning on moving the number of 2-way contracts per team up until it reaches 6 per team. Any news on this?

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/08/hoops-rumors-glossary-two-way-contract.html

How many years can a two-way contract cover?
A two-way contract can be for either one or two years, and can’t include a team or player option.

Although two-way contracts can be for up to two years, a player who has three years of NBA experience can’t sign such a deal, since he’d have four years of service after the first season. As such, two-way contracts for players with three years of experience are limited to one year.

A player also can’t spend more than three total seasons on two-way contracts with the same team. For example, a player who signed two-way deals with a club during his first two NBA seasons couldn’t then agree to a two-year two-way contract with the same team.

Looks like JD Davison is still allowed one more year on a two-way with the Cs if both parties are amenable. Same with Queta.

[Hal14]

We might not hear about buyout signings until after the AS weekend, where players, GMs, and agents can mingle and iron out stuff. Thad Young caught me by surprise but makes sense for the Suns. I still want a vet for the 15th spot. Like 3x champ Danny Green would be nice. I don't need him to play. Is there a current 2020 version of Rondo? Still iffy about relying on PP as a backup PG or they could just run with an 8-man rotation that doesn't include him for the most part -- JT, JB, JH, KP, DW, AH, XT, SH.

Yeah I'd be down for Danny Green. Between him, Cassell and Jrue, that gives us a few guys with championship experience.

Current 2020 version of Rondo could be Delon if he gets bought out..if not, maybe Ish Smith? Honestly haven't looked up any film/stats onm him this season to tell if he is washed or not, though..

[Hal14]

They changed it from 3 years on Two-Ways, to 4 years.

I could not find this info, but thought I'd remember hearing about this. I will take your word for it though. I would love a link about this info if you have it. I also thought I heard NBA planning on moving the number of 2-way contracts per team up until it reaches 6 per team. Any news on this?

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/08/hoops-rumors-glossary-two-way-contract.html

How many years can a two-way contract cover?
A two-way contract can be for either one or two years, and can’t include a team or player option.

Although two-way contracts can be for up to two years, a player who has three years of NBA experience can’t sign such a deal, since he’d have four years of service after the first season. As such, two-way contracts for players with three years of experience are limited to one year.

A player also can’t spend more than three total seasons on two-way contracts with the same team. For example, a player who signed two-way deals with a club during his first two NBA seasons couldn’t then agree to a two-year two-way contract with the same team.

Looks like JD Davison is still allowed one more year on a two-way with the Cs if both parties are amenable. Same with Queta.

While apparently it's allowed in the rules, to my knowledge neither of these things have happened yet.

I don't believe we've seen anyone stay on a 2-way with the same team for 3 years. We've had guys on a 2-way for 2 years with same team (Tacko, Tremont waters, Davison, Queta with the KIngs..)

And we've seen some guys on a 2-way during their 3rd NBA season (Kabengele, Olivier Sarr, Queta..)

But I don't believe we've seen a player stuck on a 2-way with the same team for 3 years..nor a guy on a 2-way in his 4th NBA season. I could be wrong, though.

I feel like even if we offered JD another 2-way for next season, he would probably say no. He'd probably bet on himself, thinking that since he'll be 22 next season, with 2 years in the G league under his belt, 1 of them as arguably the best player in the G league, he'll think he has earned a real roster spot with somebody. And if that isn't gonna happen in boston (the best team in the league, loaded with guard depth) him (and his agent) would probably think he could earn a real roster spot on a different team (that isn't as good as Boston and has less guard depth than we do).

Same thing with Queta. I feel like even if we offered him another 2-way next season, he'd probably say no. Hima nd his agent would probably say "ok, he's gonna be 25 next season, 3 yrs under his belt on a 2-way, 1 of those seasons he gave valuable contributions to the best team in the league. He deserves a real roster spot somewhere"

We'll see..

[Celts17Pride]

I could not find this info, but thought I'd remember hearing about this. I will take your word for it though. I would love a link about this info if you have it. I also thought I heard NBA planning on moving the number of 2-way contracts per team up until it reaches 6 per team. Any news on this?

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/08/hoops-rumors-glossary-two-way-contract.html

How many years can a two-way contract cover?
A two-way contract can be for either one or two years, and can’t include a team or player option.

Although two-way contracts can be for up to two years, a player who has three years of NBA experience can’t sign such a deal, since he’d have four years of service after the first season. As such, two-way contracts for players with three years of experience are limited to one year.

A player also can’t spend more than three total seasons on two-way contracts with the same team. For example, a player who signed two-way deals with a club during his first two NBA seasons couldn’t then agree to a two-year two-way contract with the same team.

Looks like JD Davison is still allowed one more year on a two-way with the Cs if both parties are amenable. Same with Queta.

While apparently it's allowed in the rules, to my knowledge neither of these things have happened yet.

I don't believe we've seen anyone stay on a 2-way with the same team for 3 years. We've had guys on a 2-way for 2 years with same team (Tacko, Tremont waters, Davison, Queta with the KIngs..)

And we've seen some guys on a 2-way during their 3rd NBA season (Kabengele, Olivier Sarr, Queta..)

But I don't believe we've seen a player stuck on a 2-way with the same team for 3 years..nor a guy on a 2-way in his 4th NBA season. I could be wrong, though.

I feel like even if we offered JD another 2-way for next season, he would probably say no. He'd probably bet on himself, thinking that since he'll be 22 next season, with 2 years in the G league under his belt, 1 of them as arguably the best player in the G league, he'll think he has earned a real roster spot with somebody. And if that isn't gonna happen in boston (the best team in the league, loaded with guard depth) him (and his agent) would probably think he could earn a real roster spot on a different team (that isn't as good as Boston and has less guard depth than we do).

Same thing with Queta. I feel like even if we offered him another 2-way next season, he'd probably say no. Hima nd his agent would probably say "ok, he's gonna be 25 next season, 3 yrs under his belt on a 2-way, 1 of those seasons he gave valuable contributions to the best team in the league. He deserves a real roster spot somewhere"

We'll see..

Celtics will do whats best for the Celtics. If the Celtics lose Davison and Queta it's not equivalent to losing Curry and Shaq. So be it. Have a feeling that if Davison and Queta never played another minute for the Celtics that the Celtics would be alright.

[JaMarco]

Where has the gallo talk come from?

KP/Al don't play back to backs and the Cs played Oshae Brissett 9 minutes in the game last night.

[fallguy]

Gallinari is not coming back.

[BK_2020]

Gallo's going to the Suns. We just gonna roll with 14 dudes.