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Re: Pick your UFA target(s)... 

Post#41 » by p0peye » Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:45 pm

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p0peye wrote:I think we have the talent we need on our roster, just have to resign them.


Including Fultz, Chuma & Harris?


Fultz is the best PG we have!
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Re: Pick your UFA target(s)... 

Post#42 » by Skybox » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:54 pm

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Skybox wrote:
p0peye wrote:I think we have the talent we need on our roster, just have to resign them.


Including Fultz, Chuma & Harris?


Fultz is the best PG we have!


But not the best available FA PG...he deserves a fresh start elsewhere...we can't pay him $17m again and we shouldn't start him on a team without other backcourt shooters. I would be shocked.
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Re: Pick your UFA target(s)... 

Post#43 » by T-Cat » Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:33 pm

Kris Dunn (3 yr deal) and Klay Thompson (3yr deal) would be my off season targets.

C- Jonathan Isaac/Ulrich Chomche/Dwight Howard
PF- Paolo Banchero/Mo Wagner/Houstan
SF- Franz Wagner/Jett Howard
SG- Klay Thompson/Jalen Suggs/McClung
PG- Kris Dunn/Anthony Black/Fulz
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Re: Pick your UFA target(s)... 

Post#44 » by jezzerinho » Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:21 pm

Dont laugh, but keep an eye this season on Ricky Council IV at Philly. Sleeper a la Quickley or Joe.

I liked him coming out of the draft. He's impressimg lately for the 6ers. He'll be an RFA and Phi wont let him go easily.
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Re: Pick your UFA target(s)... 

Post#45 » by Skybox » Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:24 pm

T-Cat wrote:Kris Dunn (3 yr deal) and Klay Thompson (3yr deal) would be my off season targets.

C- Jonathan Isaac/Ulrich Chomche/Dwight Howard
PF- Paolo Banchero/Mo Wagner/Houstan
SF- Franz Wagner/Jett Howard
SG- Klay Thompson/Jalen Suggs/McClung
PG- Kris Dunn/Anthony Black/Fulz


Kris Dunn is nice and could be a good transition guy to AB...I think it was Chad Lowe that said "Kris Dunn might be THE best guard on guard defender in the NBA" :o He's shooting 3's now too...could be a great opportunity for ORL and him.

I had proposed sending srps and expirings for him and Olynyk...two smart rotation vets. Now they'll both be expiring and I don't see UTA wanting to spend much to retain Dunn. It's a really good short-term (at least) fit for us though. That's maybe a candidate for a Weltman special 1 + 1TO, maybe even on a slight overpay.

I also see you snuck Dwight in there which is horrific. Just the kind of calming, intelligent vet mentor we need. :nonono:
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Re: Pick your UFA target(s)... 

Post#46 » by Viper1500 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:27 pm

Kris Dunn??? As a back up maybe...
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Post#47 » by The-Stallion70 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:13 pm

We should get a point guard, Fultz' 8 ppg 3reb 3ast does not get you an extension as some on here have suggested.maybe a 1 year prove it deal but not a multi year extension.

Conley would be aight but we'd have to overpay him possibly to come here near the end of his career.

The Magic have been trying to find the next franchise point guard basically since Jameer left and have consistently struck out. Elfrid doesn't count since he presided over terrible teams.

We drafted Suggs and quickly learned that he's a 2 guard, not a point guard.

Black looks completely unprepared and possibly Killian Hayes 2.0. Although he's probably a better overall player than Killian but not a better point guard.
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Re: Pick your UFA target(s)... 

Post#48 » by The-Stallion70 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:17 pm

T-Cat wrote:Klay Thompson would be ideal


He wants WAYYY too much money and we shouldn't give it to him.

He's too old and his numbers are down across the board.
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Post#49 » by T-Cat » Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:51 am

The-Stallion70 wrote:
T-Cat wrote:Klay Thompson would be ideal


He wants WAYYY too much money and we shouldn't give it to him.

He's too old and his numbers are down across the board.


We could give him a big 2 yr deal with 3rd year team option. ( Sort of deal similar to Joe Ingles signing, big pay in year one with team option in Second year)

Same goes for Kris Dunn!
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Re: Pick your UFA target(s)... 

Post#50 » by MasterGMer » Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:46 am

Paul George is linked with Pacers and 76ers if his extension with Clippers doesn't work out. 76ers have huge cap space this summer and so do we.

I am just interesting to see who we are after before the extension with Franz and Paolo. This is our only chance to, yeah maybe, build a Championship contending team
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Re: Pick your UFA target(s)... 

Post#51 » by Ugly0598 » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:16 am

p0peye wrote:
Skybox wrote:
p0peye wrote:I think we have the talent we need on our roster, just have to resign them.


Including Fultz, Chuma & Harris?


Fultz is the best PG we have!


I think Fultz is the best PG but it is bad watching him pass up open jumpers all the time.
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Re: Pick your UFA target(s)... 

Post#52 » by Tarheel » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:35 am

Quickley (appreciate he isn't an UFA and Toronto would likely match) and Monk.

I would let Fultz, Harris and Chuma walk which is $35m AAV to offer between them. I thought Goga was a two year deal but Basketball Reference only shows his salary for one year. If he does expire I'd look to retain him or if it's an option I would take it.

I'm not sure what the situation is with Isaac's contract but I don't see a world where he isn't retained and his salary guaranteed.
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Re: Pick your UFA target(s)... 

Post#53 » by KillMonger » Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:59 am

The-Stallion70 wrote:We should get a point guard, Fultz' 8 ppg 3reb 3ast does not get you an extension as some on here have suggested.maybe a 1 year prove it deal but not a multi year extension.

Conley would be aight but we'd have to overpay him possibly to come here near the end of his career.

The Magic have been trying to find the next franchise point guard basically since Jameer left and have consistently struck out. Elfrid doesn't count since he presided over terrible teams.

We drafted Suggs and quickly learned that he's a 2 guard, not a point guard.

Black looks completely unprepared and possibly Killian Hayes 2.0. Although he's probably a better overall player than Killian but not a better point guard.

if i'm being honest, nobody would look like a point guard in our system....every point guard including fultz, in this system just hands the ball to paolo or franz after passing half court....black isn't really given much of a chance to run a team, that's why i was hoping he would get some time in Osceola getting some point guard reps
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Re: Pick your UFA target(s)... 

Post#54 » by basketballRob » Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:01 pm

Quickley looks like he's around 60% of what Simons is. Some players blossom with bigger roles, and some are exposed.

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Re: Pick your UFA target(s)... 

Post#55 » by The-Stallion70 » Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:34 pm

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The-Stallion70 wrote:We should get a point guard, Fultz' 8 ppg 3reb 3ast does not get you an extension as some on here have suggested.maybe a 1 year prove it deal but not a multi year extension.

Conley would be aight but we'd have to overpay him possibly to come here near the end of his career.

The Magic have been trying to find the next franchise point guard basically since Jameer left and have consistently struck out. Elfrid doesn't count since he presided over terrible teams.

We drafted Suggs and quickly learned that he's a 2 guard, not a point guard.

Black looks completely unprepared and possibly Killian Hayes 2.0. Although he's probably a better overall player than Killian but not a better point guard.

if i'm being honest, nobody would look like a point guard in our system....every point guard including fultz, in this system just hands the ball to paolo or franz after passing half court....black isn't really given much of a chance to run a team, that's why i was hoping he would get some time in Osceola getting some point guard reps


Yea but a big reason why that happens now I believe is because our pgs are so bad.

At the very least we need someone to hit 3s and defend opposing pgs and we don't even have that.
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This trade wasn't some conspiracy - it was just a GM wanting AD bad enough where in most people's eyes he overpaid by a long shot to get him.
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Re: Pick your UFA target(s)... 

Post#56 » by Skybox » Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:58 pm

The-Stallion70 wrote:
KillMonger wrote:
The-Stallion70 wrote:We should get a point guard, Fultz' 8 ppg 3reb 3ast does not get you an extension as some on here have suggested.maybe a 1 year prove it deal but not a multi year extension.

Conley would be aight but we'd have to overpay him possibly to come here near the end of his career.

The Magic have been trying to find the next franchise point guard basically since Jameer left and have consistently struck out. Elfrid doesn't count since he presided over terrible teams.

We drafted Suggs and quickly learned that he's a 2 guard, not a point guard.

Black looks completely unprepared and possibly Killian Hayes 2.0. Although he's probably a better overall player than Killian but not a better point guard.

if i'm being honest, nobody would look like a point guard in our system....every point guard including fultz, in this system just hands the ball to paolo or franz after passing half court....black isn't really given much of a chance to run a team, that's why i was hoping he would get some time in Osceola getting some point guard reps


Yea but a big reason why that happens now I believe is because our pgs are so bad.

At the very least we need someone to hit 3s and defend opposing pgs and we don't even have that.


Agree that it's not necessarily a traditional "I'm the general" PG role...but, ideally, it's a lot more offensive creation than what we have now. Actually, Fultz is adequate for the "PG stuff"...we just need more scoring and, specifically, shooting from both backcourt positions. To be fair, if there wasn't sufficient evidence to believe Suggs' offensive impact and shooting were coming along - I'd be just as quick to park him on the bench and rotate him in like a small Isaac - to create defensive havoc.
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Re: Pick your UFA target(s)... 

Post#57 » by OnlyFranz22 » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:49 am

Quickley/Garland/Spida
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Post#58 » by Residual-Heat » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:52 am

Quickley is RFA fwiw.

I like Monk. Get him and trade Cole. Monk is more consistent offensively, a better shooter and defender.
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Post#59 » by OnlyFranz22 » Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:53 am

If you can find somebody like Jamal Murray…… he’s your perfect fit for this lineup.
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Post#60 » by KillMonger » Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:33 am

People in these twitter spaces are tweaking man....they're talking about running it back....bringing back fultz and others on team friendly deals.....i'm done with fultz
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