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srhcan · Post #221 » by **srhcan** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:08 am

Nuntius wrote:
srhcan wrote:Raptors could have had Bennedict Mathurin in Siakam trade

No, they couldn't. We wouldn't have made the trade if Mathurin was to be included.

No. Pacers would have given up Mathurin if Raptors played hard ball. But Raptors played very soft in this case and hurt the future of the franchise.

Chuck Everett · Post #222 » by **Chuck Everett** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:09 am

Never forget Duke didn't know how to use Dereck Lively II last year.

xBulletproof · Post #223 » by **xBulletproof** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:10 am

srhcan wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
srhcan wrote:Raptors could have had Bennedict Mathurin in Siakam trade

No, they couldn't. We wouldn't have made the trade if Mathurin was to be included.

No. Pacers would have given up Mathurin if Raptors played hard ball. But Raptors played very soft in this case and hurt the future of the franchise.

Not at all.

The Pacers would have just waited until the offseason to try to sign him then.

azcatz11 · Post #224 » by **azcatz11** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:10 am

Chuck Everett wrote:Never forget Duke didn't know how to use Dereck Lively II last year.

If you want to know why people don't like Lefkoe look at the sneakers he's wearing - that's embarrassing.

azcatz11 · Post #225 » by **azcatz11** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:12 am

srhcan wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
srhcan wrote:Raptors could have had Bennedict Mathurin in Siakam trade

No, they couldn't. We wouldn't have made the trade if Mathurin was to be included.

No. Pacers would have given up Mathurin if Raptors played hard ball. But Raptors played very soft in this case and hurt the future of the franchise.

You don't trade blue chip guys like Mathurin for players like Siakam. No shade towards Siakam but you're getting back a superstar for a package with Mathurin

canada_dry · Post #226 » by **canada_dry** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:15 am

srhcan wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
srhcan wrote:Raptors could have had Bennedict Mathurin in Siakam trade

No, they couldn't. We wouldn't have made the trade if Mathurin was to be included.

No. Pacers would have given up Mathurin if Raptors played hard ball. But Raptors played very soft in this case and hurt the future of the franchise.

So we just saying anything now.

Last year maybe.

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reddyplayerone · Post #227 » by **reddyplayerone** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:17 am

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Post #228 » by **G R E Y** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:17 am

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MrGoat · Post #229 » by **MrGoat** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:20 am

Chuck Everett wrote:Never forget Duke didn't know how to use Dereck Lively II last year.

Nico Harrison has already admitted they got lucky with that pick. They had no idea he would be as good as he was because there was no way to tell with the way he was used at Duke. His career high at Duke was 13 points and they had him taking 3s :lol:

His mother played center at Penn State and had been teaching him the position since he was very little. Dallas was kind of shocked when he showed up with good fundamentals. Something high school prospects should think about before committing to Duke

Chuck Everett · Post #230 » by **Chuck Everett** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:25 am

azcatz11 wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:Never forget Duke didn't know how to use Dereck Lively II last year.

If you want to know why people don't like Lefkoe look at the sneakers he's wearing - that's embarrassing.

Okay, hearing him not mention Dirk as the best big man shooter is just ridiculous. This dude is a moron.

kwajo · Post #231 » by **kwajo** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:33 am

Nuntius wrote:
srhcan wrote:Raptors could have had Bennedict Mathurin in Siakam trade

No, they couldn't. We wouldn't have made the trade if Mathurin was to be included.

Yeah this is just a baseless assumption

SamBridges · Post #232 » by **SamBridges** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:37 am

srhcan wrote:Raptors could have had Bennedict Mathurin in Siakam trade

no the pacers were never giving up Mathurin, stop talking out of your ass

MMyhre · Post #233 » by **MMyhre** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:38 am

Mathurin is funny. Need more **** like him, too bad he doesn't have a bad team to play more on.

Post #234 » by **Nuntius** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:29 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
srhcan wrote:Raptors could have had Bennedict Mathurin in Siakam trade

No, they couldn't. We wouldn't have made the trade if Mathurin was to be included.

It's still a bit tilting that the Pacers didn't have to give up a single prospect in the trade especially with the surplus of them they have.

I understand that but that's what happens when there's a risk that the player is a rental.

Post #235 » by **Nuntius** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:33 pm

kwajo wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
srhcan wrote:Raptors could have had Bennedict Mathurin in Siakam trade

No, they couldn't. We wouldn't have made the trade if Mathurin was to be included.

Yeah this is just a baseless assumption

The baseless assumption is that Mathurin could be had. The Pacers were very clear that they weren't going to include him in any trade package for Siakam.

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Post #237 » by **bisme37** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:40 pm

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Karate Diop · Post #239 » by **Karate Diop** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:21 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
srhcan wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
No, they couldn't. We wouldn't have made the trade if Mathurin was to be included.

No. Pacers would have given up Mathurin if Raptors played hard ball. But Raptors played very soft in this case and hurt the future of the franchise.

You don't trade blue chip guys like Mathurin for players like Siakam. No shade towards Siakam but you're getting back a superstar for a package with Mathurin

What the... Mathurin isn't bad, but nobody is giving up a superstar if he's the main piece...

Myth · Post #240 » by **Myth** » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:38 pm

Karate Diop wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
srhcan wrote:No. Pacers would have given up Mathurin if Raptors played hard ball. But Raptors played very soft in this case and hurt the future of the franchise.

You don't trade blue chip guys like Mathurin for players like Siakam. No shade towards Siakam but you're getting back a superstar for a package with Mathurin

What the... Mathurin isn't bad, but nobody is giving up a superstar if he's the main piece...

I think that is why he said “package.” Like when the Suns traded for Durant, they sent a package of Bridges and picks for him. Pacers in their current position would only move Mathurin if they can consolidate him with other picks and pieces for a major upgrade.

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