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Ball for Ingram? 

Post#1 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:53 pm

Charlotte trade: Ball
Pelicans trade: Ingram

Just a straight up swap.

Charlotte gets a pretty good wing scored in Ingram who they can pair with their younger wing Brandon Miller. Charlotte creates their version of Tatum/Brown.


Pelicans gets a much better fit with Zion in LaMelo. They always wanted a PG even tried to trade up for Scoot in the draft.


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Re: Ball for Ingram? 

Post#2 » by HornetJail » Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:03 pm

He's got to agree to a max extension as part of the trade otherwise he's not worth considering.

That's only like the 4th biggest problem with this trade for Charlotte though
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Post#3 » by HadAnEffectHere » Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:40 pm

LaMelo's trade value is interesting in theory because he has shown a lot of flashes, but doesn't seem to care and isn't a winning player and has been constantly injured (with a genetic history that is not good).

But the teams that would take a risk on LaMelo are horrible teams that need any upside like... The Hornets.
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Post#4 » by babyjax13 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:46 pm

If the Hornets trade him I think the return should be in the same age range as Miller. This means good young prospects or high upside picks (maybe both). As a Jazz fan, LaMelo is someone I'd be interested in using some of our assets on. If we could them use the rest for a nice wing to round out the team we could be very good.
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Re: Ball for Ingram? 

Post#5 » by louc1970 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:48 pm

The trade would need to be a bit more than 1 for 1. Brining in Ingram creates a crowded Miller, Bridges, Ingram dynamic. Can they play the wing position a at the same time?
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Post#6 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:26 pm

louc1970 wrote:The trade would need to be a bit more than 1 for 1. Brining in Ingram creates a crowded Miller, Bridges, Ingram dynamic. Can they play the wing position a at the same time?

We would let Bridges walk in this scenario.

Charlotte has a lottery pick in which they can select a point guard to replace Melo.
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Re: Ball for Ingram? 

Post#7 » by HornetJail » Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:43 pm

louc1970 wrote:The trade would need to be a bit more than 1 for 1. Brining in Ingram creates a crowded Miller, Bridges, Ingram dynamic. Can they play the wing position a at the same time?

they absolutely could... i think an Ingram offer needs to be revolving around our pick + other picks/players, i love a Melo/Miller/BI/Bridges/Williams lineup
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Re: Ball for Ingram? 

Post#8 » by Pipp33 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:46 pm

Miller and Ingram is not a combination I would want on a team.
Miller has shown enough to think he can be a very good player and unless there's major worries about Ball's body, Charlotte should not be trading him.
Ball/Miller could be a great duo to build around. Add in Mark Williams, and that's a solid 3 to build around
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Re: Ball for Ingram? 

Post#9 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:37 pm

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louc1970 wrote:The trade would need to be a bit more than 1 for 1. Brining in Ingram creates a crowded Miller, Bridges, Ingram dynamic. Can they play the wing position a at the same time?

they absolutely could... i think an Ingram offer needs to be revolving around our pick + other picks/players, i love a Melo/Miller/BI/Bridges/Williams lineup

That seems like a huge gamble with Melo/Ingram/Mark and their injury history.
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Re: Ball for Ingram? 

Post#10 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:40 pm

Pipp33 wrote:Miller and Ingram is not a combination I would want on a team.
Miller has shown enough to think he can be a very good player and unless there's major worries about Ball's body, Charlotte should not be trading him.
Ball/Miller could be a great duo to build around. Add in Mark Williams, and that's a solid 3 to build around

You wouldn't want 2 wings who can both be 20+ppg scorers?

That seems the best way to contend in todays NBA.

The best teams are led by 2 athletic wing duo's Tatum/Brown and Kawhi/PG.


Miller/Ingram can be that kind of duo imo.
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Re: Ball for Ingram? 

Post#11 » by yosemiteben » Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:37 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
louc1970 wrote:The trade would need to be a bit more than 1 for 1. Brining in Ingram creates a crowded Miller, Bridges, Ingram dynamic. Can they play the wing position a at the same time?

We would let Bridges walk in this scenario.

That seems like an incredible waste of assets. Why would we do this?
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Post#12 » by JustBuzzin » Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:50 am

yosemiteben wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
louc1970 wrote:The trade would need to be a bit more than 1 for 1. Brining in Ingram creates a crowded Miller, Bridges, Ingram dynamic. Can they play the wing position a at the same time?

We would let Bridges walk in this scenario.

That seems like an incredible waste of assets. Why would we do this?

Or you can just sign n trade Bridges for a piece who fits better with Ingram/Miller.
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Re: Ball for Ingram? 

Post#13 » by HornetJail » Mon Feb 19, 2024 1:52 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:We would let Bridges walk in this scenario.

That seems like an incredible waste of assets. Why would we do this?

Or you can just sign n trade Bridges for a piece who fits better with Ingram/Miller.

I have a player in mind that fits quite well with Ingram and Miller
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Re: Ball for Ingram? 

Post#14 » by HadAnEffectHere » Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:47 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
Pipp33 wrote:Miller and Ingram is not a combination I would want on a team.
Miller has shown enough to think he can be a very good player and unless there's major worries about Ball's body, Charlotte should not be trading him.
Ball/Miller could be a great duo to build around. Add in Mark Williams, and that's a solid 3 to build around

You wouldn't want 2 wings who can both be 20+ppg scorers?

That seems the best way to contend in todays NBA.

The best teams are led by 2 athletic wing duo's Tatum/Brown and Kawhi/PG.


Miller/Ingram can be that kind of duo imo.


I don't think Miller or Ingram are athletic...
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Post#15 » by Wolveswin » Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:58 am

I obviously like it…

Wolveswin wrote:Personally, I think Pels would be better off doing Ingram (to 3rd team) + Daniels for Ball. Add picks as needed.

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Maybe 3rd team is Memphis? Get Hornets a top 6 pick to go with own top 3 pick.


I still agree Memphis makes a great 3rd team if they think they can pay Ja, Ingram, JJJ and Bane.
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Post#16 » by Trey24 » Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:29 pm

Why for Hornets? Lamelo is a Franchise type player when healthy. Would be stupid to give up on him for Ingram who they could get while still retaining Ball.

If I am the Hornets I hang up without even saying thanks for the call
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Re: Ball for Ingram? 

Post#17 » by louc1970 » Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:17 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
louc1970 wrote:The trade would need to be a bit more than 1 for 1. Brining in Ingram creates a crowded Miller, Bridges, Ingram dynamic. Can they play the wing position a at the same time?

We would let Bridges walk in this scenario.

Charlotte has a lottery pick in which they can select a point guard to replace Melo.

Is there one good enough in Charlotte’s range? Those available have many issues.
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Re: Ball for Ingram? 

Post#18 » by louc1970 » Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:20 pm

Trey24 wrote:Why for Hornets? Lamelo is a Franchise type player when healthy. Would be stupid to give up on him for Ingram who they could get while still retaining Ball.

If I am the Hornets I hang up without even saying thanks for the call

I think you answered it- when healthy.
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Re: Ball for Ingram? 

Post#19 » by MasterIchiro » Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:34 pm

With Trey Murphy III due a big raise, trading Ingram for a longterm PG is a viable strategy.

However, the Hornets currently have a cost-controlled version of Ingram in Brandon Miller. The Hornets are creating a hole here where one does not exist. It fills a hole for the Pelicans and creates one for the Hornets.

Who becomes PG after trading LaMelo?

Deals like this proposal cannot be balanced.

So, I think short of finding a team that would trade a PG for Ingram, Pelicans need to be looking to move Trey Murphy III for someone like Tre Mann.

Mann+ for Murphy III fills a hole for both teams.
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Re: Ball for Ingram? 

Post#20 » by MasterIchiro » Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:35 pm

louc1970 wrote:
Trey24 wrote:Why for Hornets? Lamelo is a Franchise type player when healthy. Would be stupid to give up on him for Ingram who they could get while still retaining Ball.

If I am the Hornets I hang up without even saying thanks for the call

I think you answered it- when healthy.


Not even Gordon Hayward was devalued based on potential injury. Hornets aren't going to sell LaMelo, especially not low based on possible injury.
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