Ball for Ingram?

[HornetJail]

Why for Hornets? Lamelo is a Franchise type player when healthy. Would be stupid to give up on him for Ingram who they could get while still retaining Ball.

If I am the Hornets I hang up without even saying thanks for the call

I think you answered it- when healthy.

Ingram averages 15-20 games missed a year, let's not pretend he's some sort of Mikal Bridges ironman here either

[JustBuzzin]

Why for Hornets? Lamelo is a Franchise type player when healthy. Would be stupid to give up on him for Ingram who they could get while still retaining Ball.

If I am the Hornets I hang up without even saying thanks for the call

How are we getting Ingram while keeping Miller and Ball?

[JustBuzzin]

With Trey Murphy III due a big raise, trading Ingram for a longterm PG is a viable strategy.

However, the Hornets currently have a cost-controlled version of Ingram in Brandon Miller. The Hornets are creating a hole here where one does not exist. It fills a hole for the Pelicans and creates one for the Hornets.

Who becomes PG after trading LaMelo?

Deals like this proposal cannot be balanced.

So, I think short of finding a team that would trade a PG for Ingram, Pelicans need to be looking to move Trey Murphy III for someone like Tre Mann.

Mann+ for Murphy III fills a hole for both teams.

We have a lottery pick.

Take Topic or the best available PG. Problem solved.

I just feel 2 elite wings is the best way to build a team. Clippers/Celtics have the best wing duos in the league they happen to have the best teams in the NBA as well.

Ingram is a Carolina guy coming here gives him extra motivation to bring a championship to Charlotte. I also feel he's more serious about basketball than Melo.

[MasterIchiro]

Why for Hornets? Lamelo is a Franchise type player when healthy. Would be stupid to give up on him for Ingram who they could get while still retaining Ball.

If I am the Hornets I hang up without even saying thanks for the call

How are we getting Ingram while keeping Miller and Ball?

Why do we even need Ingram when Miller shares his archetype while playing on a rookie scale contract?

We are not the right market for Ingram.

We should be in on Trey Murphy III with the thought of starting him with Miller, Ball, Bridges and Mark Wiilliams.

Murphy III gives us most of what we'd get from Mikal Bridges, at a fraction of the cost. Ingram is the sexier name here but I don't see it.

[MasterIchiro]

With Trey Murphy III due a big raise, trading Ingram for a longterm PG is a viable strategy.

However, the Hornets currently have a cost-controlled version of Ingram in Brandon Miller. The Hornets are creating a hole here where one does not exist. It fills a hole for the Pelicans and creates one for the Hornets.

Who becomes PG after trading LaMelo?

Deals like this proposal cannot be balanced.

So, I think short of finding a team that would trade a PG for Ingram, Pelicans need to be looking to move Trey Murphy III for someone like Tre Mann.

Mann+ for Murphy III fills a hole for both teams.

We have a lottery pick.

Take Topic or the best available PG. Problem solved.

I just feel 2 elite wings is the best way to build a team. Clippers/Celtics have the best wing duos in the league they happen to have the best teams in the NBA as well.

Ingram is a Carolina guy coming here gives him extra motivation to bring a championship to Charlotte. I also feel he's more serious about basketball than Melo.

We are not starting from scratch at the PG position. The last thing this team will do is trade LaMelo Ball and replace him with a rookie.

We have 4 awesome starters. We're closer to being buyers for that 5th piece rather than sellers of one of the other 4 established players.

[MasterIchiro]

BTW, Trey Murphy III is also a "Carolina guy". He's from Durham.

[JustBuzzin]

Why for Hornets? Lamelo is a Franchise type player when healthy. Would be stupid to give up on him for Ingram who they could get while still retaining Ball.

If I am the Hornets I hang up without even saying thanks for the call

How are we getting Ingram while keeping Miller and Ball?

Why do we even need Ingram when Miller shares his archetype while playing on a rookie scale contract?

We are not the right market for Ingram.

We should be in on Trey Murphy III with the thought of starting him with Miller, Ball, Bridges and Mark Wiilliams.

Murphy III gives us most of what we'd get from Mikal Bridges, at a fraction of the cost. Ingram is the sexier name here but I don't see it.

Same reason the Clippers and Celtics have 2 similar wings. Is having a similar player to Miller a bad thing?

Its the trend to have 2 elite wings. It's much easier to build around 2 elite wings. Put some defenders and shooters around Miller/Ingram and you have yourself a future contender.

[MasterIchiro]

How are we getting Ingram while keeping Miller and Ball?

Why do we even need Ingram when Miller shares his archetype while playing on a rookie scale contract?

We are not the right market for Ingram.

We should be in on Trey Murphy III with the thought of starting him with Miller, Ball, Bridges and Mark Wiilliams.

Murphy III gives us most of what we'd get from Mikal Bridges, at a fraction of the cost. Ingram is the sexier name here but I don't see it.

Same reason the Clippers and Celtics have 2 similar wings. Is having a similar player to Miller a bad thing?

Its the trend to have 2 elite wings. It's much easier to build around 2 elite wings. Put some defenders and shooters around Miller/Ingram and you have yourself a future contender.

Murphy III + Miller serves the same function.

The difference is salary matching with Murphy III vs. Ingram.

[JustBuzzin]

With Trey Murphy III due a big raise, trading Ingram for a longterm PG is a viable strategy.

However, the Hornets currently have a cost-controlled version of Ingram in Brandon Miller. The Hornets are creating a hole here where one does not exist. It fills a hole for the Pelicans and creates one for the Hornets.

Who becomes PG after trading LaMelo?

Deals like this proposal cannot be balanced.

So, I think short of finding a team that would trade a PG for Ingram, Pelicans need to be looking to move Trey Murphy III for someone like Tre Mann.

Mann+ for Murphy III fills a hole for both teams.

We have a lottery pick.

Take Topic or the best available PG. Problem solved.

I just feel 2 elite wings is the best way to build a team. Clippers/Celtics have the best wing duos in the league they happen to have the best teams in the NBA as well.

Ingram is a Carolina guy coming here gives him extra motivation to bring a championship to Charlotte. I also feel he's more serious about basketball than Melo.

We are not starting from scratch at the PG position. The last thing this team will do is trade LaMelo Ball and replace him with a rookie.

We have 4 awesome starters. We're closer to being buyers for that 5th piece rather than sellers of one of the other 4 established players.

Bro we have been a lottery team with Ball.

I love how you act like Melo has been taking us to places we never been. He's a great talent, but at some point he has to start making the playoffs.

[JustBuzzin]

Why do we even need Ingram when Miller shares his archetype while playing on a rookie scale contract?

We are not the right market for Ingram.

We should be in on Trey Murphy III with the thought of starting him with Miller, Ball, Bridges and Mark Wiilliams.

Murphy III gives us most of what we'd get from Mikal Bridges, at a fraction of the cost. Ingram is the sexier name here but I don't see it.

Same reason the Clippers and Celtics have 2 similar wings. Is having a similar player to Miller a bad thing?

Its the trend to have 2 elite wings. It's much easier to build around 2 elite wings. Put some defenders and shooters around Miller/Ingram and you have yourself a future contender.

Murphy III + Miller serves the same function.

The difference is salary matching with Murphy III vs. Ingram.

The trade is about Ingram not Murphy.

[MasterIchiro]

We have a lottery pick.

Take Topic or the best available PG. Problem solved.

I just feel 2 elite wings is the best way to build a team. Clippers/Celtics have the best wing duos in the league they happen to have the best teams in the NBA as well.

Ingram is a Carolina guy coming here gives him extra motivation to bring a championship to Charlotte. I also feel he's more serious about basketball than Melo.

We are not starting from scratch at the PG position. The last thing this team will do is trade LaMelo Ball and replace him with a rookie.

We have 4 awesome starters. We're closer to being buyers for that 5th piece rather than sellers of one of the other 4 established players.

Bro we have been a lottery team with Ball.

I love how you act like Melo has been taking us to places we never been. He's a great talent, but at some point he has to start making the playoffs.

Bro, Ball + Murphy III + Miller is an easy call over Ingram + Miller minus Ball.

The difference between Murphy III & Ingram is infinitely smaller than LaMelo Ball.

Just when I thought this thread would die, here's one of us breathing life into it.

[JustBuzzin]

We are not starting from scratch at the PG position. The last thing this team will do is trade LaMelo Ball and replace him with a rookie.

We have 4 awesome starters. We're closer to being buyers for that 5th piece rather than sellers of one of the other 4 established players.

Bro we have been a lottery team with Ball.

I love how you act like Melo has been taking us to places we never been. He's a great talent, but at some point he has to start making the playoffs.

Bro, Ball + Murphy III + Miller is an easy call over Ingram + Miller minus Ball.

The difference between Murphy III & Ingram is infinitely smaller than LaMelo Ball.

Just when I thought this thread would die, here's one of us breathing life into it.

lmao you are a piece of work.

You can't come into hypothetical trade threads and tell the OP about another trade. If you like Murphy then make a trade for Murphy. You being difficult bro.

[MasterIchiro]

Bro we have been a lottery team with Ball.

I love how you act like Melo has been taking us to places we never been. He's a great talent, but at some point he has to start making the playoffs.

Bro, Ball + Murphy III + Miller is an easy call over Ingram + Miller minus Ball.

The difference between Murphy III & Ingram is infinitely smaller than LaMelo Ball.

Just when I thought this thread would die, here's one of us breathing life into it.

lmao you are a piece of work.

You can't come into hypothetical trade threads and tell the OP about another trade. If you like Murphy then make a trade for Murphy. You being difficult bro.

Quit selling short bedrock players the first chance you get. It's great you like Miller as a bedrock player but you're not going to dump LaMelo without some pushback here. Many fans will consider both integral to winning instead of subscribing to the notion that because you have one bedrock player, the other one becomes expendable.

And your plan to replace LaMelo leaves A LOT to be desired, on top of it being unnecessary given other options.

[JustBuzzin]

Bro, Ball + Murphy III + Miller is an easy call over Ingram + Miller minus Ball.

The difference between Murphy III & Ingram is infinitely smaller than LaMelo Ball.

Just when I thought this thread would die, here's one of us breathing life into it.

lmao you are a piece of work.

You can't come into hypothetical trade threads and tell the OP about another trade. If you like Murphy then make a trade for Murphy. You being difficult bro.

Quit selling short bedrock players the first chance you get. It's great you like Miller as a bedrock player but you're not going to dump LaMelo without some pushback here. Many fans will consider both integral to winning instead of subscribing to the notion that because you have one bedrock player, the other one becomes expendable.

And your plan to replace LaMelo leaves A LOT to be desired, on top of it being unnecessary given other options.

LaMelo is not who you think he is.

[MasterIchiro]

lmao you are a piece of work.

You can't come into hypothetical trade threads and tell the OP about another trade. If you like Murphy then make a trade for Murphy. You being difficult bro.

Quit selling short bedrock players the first chance you get. It's great you like Miller as a bedrock player but you're not going to dump LaMelo without some pushback here. Many fans will consider both integral to winning instead of subscribing to the notion that because you have one bedrock player, the other one becomes expendable.

And your plan to replace LaMelo leaves A LOT to be desired, on top of it being unnecessary given other options.

LaMelo is not who you think he is.

Well he certainly holds greater value than you think he does.

[JustBuzzin]

Quit selling short bedrock players the first chance you get. It's great you like Miller as a bedrock player but you're not going to dump LaMelo without some pushback here. Many fans will consider both integral to winning instead of subscribing to the notion that because you have one bedrock player, the other one becomes expendable.

And your plan to replace LaMelo leaves A LOT to be desired, on top of it being unnecessary given other options.

LaMelo is not who you think he is.

Well he certainly holds greater value than you think he does.

A supermax player who is injury prone and has shown his team doesn't win with him as the guy.

Bro with both Hornets fans. Stop acting like LaMelo is that guy. He has to stay on the court before he shows real value.

Also Ingram is a all-star caliber talent. What more do you want?

[LightTheBeam]

I don't think Ingram is the perfect fit for Charlotte, but I'm not a Lamelo guy so i'd take this and run. Be a great idea for that team to just clear house and start fresh, change the culture.

Ingram + Miller + Williams + top 5 pick would be a hell of a start

[MasterIchiro]

I don't think Ingram is the perfect fit for Charlotte, but I'm not a Lamelo guy so i'd take this and run. Be a great idea for that team to just clear house and start fresh, change the culture.

Ingram + Miller + Williams + top 5 pick would be a hell of a start

It would be like you trading Haliburton without replacing him with Fox. Who replaces LaMelo here? Until this question is answered, this is a raw deal. The proposal is DOA in the interim.

[LightTheBeam]

I don't think Ingram is the perfect fit for Charlotte, but I'm not a Lamelo guy so i'd take this and run. Be a great idea for that team to just clear house and start fresh, change the culture.

Ingram + Miller + Williams + top 5 pick would be a hell of a start

It would be like you trading Haliburton without replacing him with Fox. Who replaces LaMelo here? Until this question is answered, this is a raw deal. The proposal is DOA in the interim.

Like I said, I'm not a huge Lamelo fan in the first place. But I don't see Charlotte as a piece away or LaMelo as a #1 on any real team. That team unfortunately has a bit of a stench from all the drama and player issues. I'd personally clean house, which they seemed to start doing this deadline. So I'm not as worried about finding a point guard yet, I want to build a foundation and then worry about that problem.

I'd probably draft BPA, who could very well be a pg as a few guys in the top 7 are listed as such. But like I said, IF I can go into next year running

#3 - Miller - Ingram - Williams - Williams and tank for another top 5 pick i'm feeling okay. That's my POV

[MasterIchiro]

I don't think Ingram is the perfect fit for Charlotte, but I'm not a Lamelo guy so i'd take this and run. Be a great idea for that team to just clear house and start fresh, change the culture.

Ingram + Miller + Williams + top 5 pick would be a hell of a start

It would be like you trading Haliburton without replacing him with Fox. Who replaces LaMelo here? Until this question is answered, this is a raw deal. The proposal is DOA in the interim.

Like I said, I'm not a huge Lamelo fan in the first place. But I don't see Charlotte as a piece away or LaMelo as a #1 on any real team. That team unfortunately has a bit of a stench from all the drama and player issues. I'd personally clean house, which they seemed to start doing this deadline. So I'm not as worried about finding a point guard yet, I want to build a foundation and then worry about that problem.

I'd probably draft BPA, who could very well be a pg as a few guys in the top 7 are listed as such. But like I said, IF I can go into next year running

#3 - Miller - Ingram - Williams - Williams and tank for another top 5 pick i'm feeling okay. That's my POV

PG is more integral to team function than wing. So there's just no way Hornets would create a large hole just to plug a smaller one.

The front office did not trade away a core player.

Rozier, Hayward and PJ Washington were not considered building blocks. The outgoing GM prior to the deadline mentioned by name LaMelo and Miller as long term pieces where the organization doesn't see a realistic scenario where either would be moved.

So while I appreciate your individual perspective on LaMelo and your personal definition of cleaning house, I have to inform you that it conflicts with what has been reported.

The one Hornets fan pushing for LaMelo to go in a deal where Charlotte moves forward without a named viable replacement is not at all representative.

I think there's no way Kings trade Haliburton if Fox is not there. And it's not like Kings were some model of success. You were just like the Hornets.