I want to remind everyone that Lamelo Ball is 22 years old and an incredibly high impact player that DOES effect winning. Anyone saying the opposite doesn't know what they are talking about. The Hornets, in his rookie season, went to the play-in which no one expected largely due to his emergence. He made the all star team the next season because of the way he impacted the team WINNING.
The guy is a 25, 6 rebound 8 assist player on good percentages at 22. And people act like he sucks.
I am tired of it especially from Hornets "fans" that in my opinion must not watch him play. This guy puts the Hornets in a whole nother stratosphere and we are very lucky to have him.
Ball for Ingram?
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MasterIchiro wrote:LightTheBeam wrote:MasterIchiro wrote:
It would be like you trading Haliburton without replacing him with Fox. Who replaces LaMelo here? Until this question is answered, this is a raw deal. The proposal is DOA in the interim.
Like I said, I'm not a huge Lamelo fan in the first place. But I don't see Charlotte as a piece away or LaMelo as a #1 on any real team. That team unfortunately has a bit of a stench from all the drama and player issues. I'd personally clean house, which they seemed to start doing this deadline. So I'm not as worried about finding a point guard yet, I want to build a foundation and then worry about that problem.
I'd probably draft BPA, who could very well be a pg as a few guys in the top 7 are listed as such. But like I said, IF I can go into next year running
#3 - Miller - Ingram - Williams - Williams and tank for another top 5 pick i'm feeling okay. That's my POV
PG is more integral to team function than wing. So there's just no way Hornets would create a large hole just to plug a smaller one.
The front office did not trade away a core player.
Rozier, Hayward and PJ Washington were not considered building blocks. The outgoing GM prior to the deadline mentioned by name LaMelo and Miller as long term pieces where the organization doesn't see a realistic scenario where either would be moved.
So while I appreciate your individual perspective on LaMelo and your personal definition of cleaning house, I have to inform you that it conflicts with what has been reported.
The one Hornets fan pushing for LaMelo to go in a deal where Charlotte moves forward without a named viable replacement is not at all representative.
I think there's no way Kings trade Haliburton if Fox is not there. And it's not like Kings were some model of success. You were just like the Hornets.
I agree the Kings were similar to the Hornets to a degree. Obviously Hornets have had a ton of off court issues, which is a lot of what I was referring to that the Kings did not. They cut Kai, cut Booknight, Harrell had his issues, LaMelo smoking (not a huge deal in itself) and Bridges. It just seems rotten from the core.
But now back to the Kings. We did clean house. Bagley, Buddy, Bogdan, the GM, the Coach etc.. We rebuilt the team solely around Fox. Which is what I'm suggesting here. You build the team around Miller. You bring in high character players that you want around your young future all star.
"PG is more integral to team function than wing. So there's just no way Hornets would create a large hole just to plug a smaller one."
IMO not only is it much easier to find a PGOTF long term, you aren't at the stage where you start worrying about plugging holes. This is like the Wizards of last year saying we can't trade Beal unless we have Jordan Poole to replace him. The team is not a piece away from being competitive.
The return matters less than just starting fresh IMO. The premise imo is off because the Pelicans wouldn't entertain this from the get go. Ingram is the best player on the 5th seed in the West. Lamelo seems disinterested in even showing up to play once the jury was out that the Hornets weren't going anywhere this year.
Like I said, we can agree to disagree. I just don't see Lamelo as the type you build around. However Miller can be. I'd put my eggs in that basket.
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JustBuzzin wrote:Pipp33 wrote:Miller and Ingram is not a combination I would want on a team.
Miller has shown enough to think he can be a very good player and unless there's major worries about Ball's body, Charlotte should not be trading him.
Ball/Miller could be a great duo to build around. Add in Mark Williams, and that's a solid 3 to build around
You wouldn't want 2 wings who can both be 20+ppg scorers?
That seems the best way to contend in todays NBA.
The best teams are led by 2 athletic wing duo's Tatum/Brown and Kawhi/PG.
Miller/Ingram can be that kind of duo imo.
I get your point, but we differ on opinion.
I'm not very high in Ingram as a leader/No.1 option on a Playoff team. ANd neither has shown themselves to be a great runner of an offense.
And currently neither Brown/Tatum nor Kawhi/PG have won anything together. That may change (and could do this season), but that does not make it a pattern to follow.
Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team
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Lol at the OP for thinking turning LaMelo, top 5 pick, Bridges into Ingram and Topic is the key to team building.
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