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Mack11 wrote:
miss the days when we had this man play for us and we were all eager to see what he was gonna pull off at the all star game
refshateRaps wrote:Scase wrote:refshateRaps wrote:
We had more then Siakam to compliment a pure scorer and it was all we were missing to be a really good team TBH.
I can guarantee a roster with the bulk of last seasons vets would've been far more promising then what we are looking at right now and we will be faced with a similar decision in the future if we even have a piece to trade at that time and are lucky enough to be in that situation.
And if some peeps are judging Scottie for not winning on a trash team the same way they judge Dame in Portland then Scottie is going to be a serious bust in their eyes until we get him some real help one day as this is a team stacking league.
The bucks were and are a better team top to bottom, if they can't do it, we definitely couldn't Siakam isn't even in the same stratosphere as Giannis. And the rest of their bench is better than ours was, easily.
Not even saying a deal was available, but the urgency should have been there and I definitely believe we had a cast of players to support an Alpha as there were other players being shopped and our FO was sitting comfortably on their hands for no good reason either way.
Dame, Fred, OG, Pascal and Poeltl would have been fun to watch and dangerous AF.
Much more fun then the mess we have now which provides only a hope we can build something close to that good as we enter what might become the Wemby era.
mtcan wrote:Baseball all-star games are played at a competitive level close to a regular baseball game because by and large, baseball is considered a non-contact or less physical than football, hockey and basketball. Maybe the pitchers aren't throwing as hard to preserve their arms but that works to the hitters' advantages...and what's more fun in a baseball game than to see lots of hits and home runs?
All-star hockey games...you will see less hitting and fighting but that also means more 2 on 1s or breakaways and those are lots of fun to watch even in a normal game.
Pro Bowl is a joke and everyone knows it. In fact...they're doing flag football this year so there will be zero hitting and as much as we like seeing offence...seeing a quarterback sacked or a receiver savagely taken down by a hulking linebacker...that's what people enjoy watching.
Basketball without the defensive intensity and shot blocking just isn't fun. Guys just jogging up and down the floor with clear paths to the basket...no one wants to see this.
If the NBA wants to make this fun...how about a 3 on 3 tournament? Pay the guys $500k each to participate but then offer an additional $500k to advance to the quarter finals, another $500k to advance to the semifinals and another $500k to advance to the finals with another $500k to win. Winning players get a cool 2.5 million and the intensity level increases dramatically...and we don't have to watch a completely neutered 5 on 5 game.
Mack11 wrote:
miss the days when we had this man play for us and we were all eager to see what he was gonna pull off at the all star game
Mack11 wrote:
miss the days when we had this man play for us and we were all eager to see what he was gonna pull off at the all star game
ForeverTFC wrote:links135 wrote:ForeverTFC wrote:
Damn bro I can’t even joke around during the all-star game?
The only joke here is after reading this the crying your parents do
/s
//i'm only joking
Had to read that 6 times. Well done.
I think the All-Star game in general needs a little revamping because it used to be competitive. Fans want to see the best pick-up game in the world. That's what it is. They don't want to see you running up and down doing all this crazy stuff, dunking, and all that. They want to see what happens when you put the best collection of basketball players on the planet. They play and go head up against each other. I mean, you guys play harder at a pickup game at UCLA, and it ain't billion of people watching.
Raptorfan2012 wrote:Its just a glorified exhibition game with the season's most popular players on the court. I don't understand the issues around it. Its basically Oscar night at the red carpet but for NBA players. You can't expect much competition around it when these guys 'practice' for a weekend and the coach has to balance out the minutes so everyone gets some time to shine. IMO people are taking it way too seriously.
Hero_Panda wrote:Raptorfan2012 wrote:Its just a glorified exhibition game with the season's most popular players on the court. I don't understand the issues around it. Its basically Oscar night at the red carpet but for NBA players. You can't expect much competition around it when these guys 'practice' for a weekend and the coach has to balance out the minutes so everyone gets some time to shine. IMO people are taking it way too seriously.
Agreed. I was shaking my head and laughing at the same time that people were complaining about the lack of defense in an all star game.
Scase wrote:refshateRaps wrote:Scase wrote:The bucks were and are a better team top to bottom, if they can't do it, we definitely couldn't Siakam isn't even in the same stratosphere as Giannis. And the rest of their bench is better than ours was, easily.
Not even saying a deal was available, but the urgency should have been there and I definitely believe we had a cast of players to support an Alpha as there were other players being shopped and our FO was sitting comfortably on their hands for no good reason either way.
Dame, Fred, OG, Pascal and Poeltl would have been fun to watch and dangerous AF.
Much more fun then the mess we have now which provides only a hope we can build something close to that good as we enter what might become the Wemby era.
This is assuming we retain FVV, which is extremely unlikely. I think it would be insane to give up Scottie for a player who you can argue might not even be a true Alpha, his teams never accomplished anything, and with Giannis, they still aren't looking impressive. Factor in his age, and all in all it seems like an extremely short sighted and bad move. That definitely would not be a dangerous team, it would be a second round exit at best.
refshateRaps wrote:Scase wrote:refshateRaps wrote:
Not even saying a deal was available, but the urgency should have been there and I definitely believe we had a cast of players to support an Alpha as there were other players being shopped and our FO was sitting comfortably on their hands for no good reason either way.
Dame, Fred, OG, Pascal and Poeltl would have been fun to watch and dangerous AF.
Much more fun then the mess we have now which provides only a hope we can build something close to that good as we enter what might become the Wemby era.
This is assuming we retain FVV, which is extremely unlikely. I think it would be insane to give up Scottie for a player who you can argue might not even be a true Alpha, his teams never accomplished anything, and with Giannis, they still aren't looking impressive. Factor in his age, and all in all it seems like an extremely short sighted and bad move. That definitely would not be a dangerous team, it would be a second round exit at best.
Well never know? But Toronto can't get too picky. Kawai was nice to us in his quest to slide out if SA to LA but the exception and even he ran for the hills. I would've preffered giving it a shot with 2 championship starters In their primes and a 3+D who saw it all 'if' someone was willing to come. Finding a talented scorer to agree to come herr is the bigger issue IMO.
We certainly had a solid vet roster with no scoring threat and now have a promising young player with alot of of growth and holes to fill along the way.
Misery is here until we are faced with a similar scenario in a few years to debate if it's worth making moves to be competitive, hoping the player agrees to come here in the era of Wemby, Chet and the other young talent or were blowing it up to the turd farm again.
Scase wrote:refshateRaps wrote:Scase wrote:This is assuming we retain FVV, which is extremely unlikely. I think it would be insane to give up Scottie for a player who you can argue might not even be a true Alpha, his teams never accomplished anything, and with Giannis, they still aren't looking impressive. Factor in his age, and all in all it seems like an extremely short sighted and bad move. That definitely would not be a dangerous team, it would be a second round exit at best.
Well never know? But Toronto can't get too picky. Kawai was nice to us in his quest to slide out if SA to LA but the exception and even he ran for the hills. I would've preffered giving it a shot with 2 championship starters In their primes and a 3+D who saw it all 'if' someone was willing to come. Finding a talented scorer to agree to come herr is the bigger issue IMO.
We certainly had a solid vet roster with no scoring threat and now have a promising young player with alot of of growth and holes to fill along the way.
Misery is here until we are faced with a similar scenario in a few years to debate if it's worth making moves to be competitive, hoping the player agrees to come here in the era of Wemby, Chet and the other young talent or were blowing it up to the turd farm again.
You realize that Dame was the one that veto'd the move right? You also think FVV turns down a max contract to play second fiddle to Dame and Siakam lol?
Again, the Bucks are, and were a better team than us without Dame. They now have Dame, and are pretty unlikely to make it to the finals, let alone win it. Siakam and Dame are going nowhere. You think a back court of Dame and FVV would be anything to fear? The swiss cheese defence alone would be a nightmare to watch.
And if FVV leaves anyways, then what? A starting lineup of Dame, GTJ, OG, Siakam, and Jak lmao. Yeah, championship written all over it.
I have no idea, how people (I assume) watch the last 2.5 years and think Dame is the answer. Utterly baffling.
I can't bring myself to cheer for KD, the guy is soft and a snake. And lol at bringing kyrie in. You want the disaster in BK to happen to us?Mikistan wrote:Scase wrote:refshateRaps wrote:
Well never know? But Toronto can't get too picky. Kawai was nice to us in his quest to slide out if SA to LA but the exception and even he ran for the hills. I would've preffered giving it a shot with 2 championship starters In their primes and a 3+D who saw it all 'if' someone was willing to come. Finding a talented scorer to agree to come herr is the bigger issue IMO.
We certainly had a solid vet roster with no scoring threat and now have a promising young player with alot of of growth and holes to fill along the way.
Misery is here until we are faced with a similar scenario in a few years to debate if it's worth making moves to be competitive, hoping the player agrees to come here in the era of Wemby, Chet and the other young talent or were blowing it up to the turd farm again.
You realize that Dame was the one that veto'd the move right? You also think FVV turns down a max contract to play second fiddle to Dame and Siakam lol?
Again, the Bucks are, and were a better team than us without Dame. They now have Dame, and are pretty unlikely to make it to the finals, let alone win it. Siakam and Dame are going nowhere. You think a back court of Dame and FVV would be anything to fear? The swiss cheese defence alone would be a nightmare to watch.
And if FVV leaves anyways, then what? A starting lineup of Dame, GTJ, OG, Siakam, and Jak lmao. Yeah, championship written all over it.
I have no idea, how people (I assume) watch the last 2.5 years and think Dame is the answer. Utterly baffling.
No but KD was, and should have traded FVV for Kyrie
Hero_Panda wrote:Raptorfan2012 wrote:Its just a glorified exhibition game with the season's most popular players on the court. I don't understand the issues around it. Its basically Oscar night at the red carpet but for NBA players. You can't expect much competition around it when these guys 'practice' for a weekend and the coach has to balance out the minutes so everyone gets some time to shine. IMO people are taking it way too seriously.
Agreed. I was shaking my head and laughing at the same time that people were complaining about the lack of defense in an all star game.
WaltFrazier wrote:Hero_Panda wrote:Raptorfan2012 wrote:Its just a glorified exhibition game with the season's most popular players on the court. I don't understand the issues around it. Its basically Oscar night at the red carpet but for NBA players. You can't expect much competition around it when these guys 'practice' for a weekend and the coach has to balance out the minutes so everyone gets some time to shine. IMO people are taking it way too seriously.
Agreed. I was shaking my head and laughing at the same time that people were complaining about the lack of defense in an all star game.
The lack of defense has been in the ASG long enough now that younger fans don't know any different. If you're old enough to remember when they did play some D, and tried harder, then you're less likely to enjoy it now.
There's lots of articles like the following out there in the sports media landscape
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nbas-all-star-game-has-become-unwatchable-and-it-also-might-be-unfixable/amp/
https://defector.com/would-anyone-miss-the-nba-all-star-game
NinjaBro wrote:I can't bring myself to cheer for KD, the guy is soft and a snake. And lol at bringing kyrie in. You want the disaster in BK to happen to us?Mikistan wrote:Scase wrote:You realize that Dame was the one that veto'd the move right? You also think FVV turns down a max contract to play second fiddle to Dame and Siakam lol?
Again, the Bucks are, and were a better team than us without Dame. They now have Dame, and are pretty unlikely to make it to the finals, let alone win it. Siakam and Dame are going nowhere. You think a back court of Dame and FVV would be anything to fear? The swiss cheese defence alone would be a nightmare to watch.
And if FVV leaves anyways, then what? A starting lineup of Dame, GTJ, OG, Siakam, and Jak lmao. Yeah, championship written all over it.
I have no idea, how people (I assume) watch the last 2.5 years and think Dame is the answer. Utterly baffling.
No but KD was, and should have traded FVV for Kyrie
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