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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 5.0 - Somebody save us 

Post#1781 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:16 am

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Nice. Feels like Delon was the wright addition.
another 3 point weapon me likey


He’s worst case bringing great defense, efficient low turnover playmaking, and solid rim pressure and shooting from 3 when open. He will be better and more impactful than Lowry without a doubt, we’ve upgraded our PG position a ton
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Nice. Feels like Delon was the wright addition.
another 3 point weapon me likey


He’s worst case bringing great defense, efficient low turnover playmaking, and solid rim pressure and shooting from 3 when open. He will be better and more impactful than Lowry without a doubt, we’ve upgraded our PG position a ton


I am starting to get excited about Wright.

The former Washington Wizards guard is the younger brother of Dorell Wright, the Heat’s first-round pick in 2004. Dorell, a 6-foot-9 swingman, played six years in Miami and was a part of the 2006 NBA Championship team.

“He is a Miami Heat culture player," Dorell Wright said on the "Tobin & Leroy" show on WQAM 560. "Just the discipline, understanding the task of being just a winner, he does winning things. A lot of things Delon does on the basketball court doesn’t show up in the stat sheet: Deflections, communicating, being in the right places. He is one of the perfect guards for Erik Spoelstra and the Miami Heat, just because of what he brings on both ends of the floor,” Dorell said. “I’m really looking forward to it, and for years I’ve been telling Delon, ‘I can see you one day playing in Miami.’ And I’m just so happy that it manifests."


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Re: Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 5.0 - Somebody save us 

Post#1783 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:49 am

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eddieheatfan wrote:another 3 point weapon me likey


He’s worst case bringing great defense, efficient low turnover playmaking, and solid rim pressure and shooting from 3 when open. He will be better and more impactful than Lowry without a doubt, we’ve upgraded our PG position a ton


I am starting to get excited about Wright.

The former Washington Wizards guard is the younger brother of Dorell Wright, the Heat’s first-round pick in 2004. Dorell, a 6-foot-9 swingman, played six years in Miami and was a part of the 2006 NBA Championship team.

“He is a Miami Heat culture player," Dorell Wright said on the "Tobin & Leroy" show on WQAM 560. "Just the discipline, understanding the task of being just a winner, he does winning things. A lot of things Delon does on the basketball court doesn’t show up in the stat sheet: Deflections, communicating, being in the right places. He is one of the perfect guards for Erik Spoelstra and the Miami Heat, just because of what he brings on both ends of the floor,” Dorell said. “I’m really looking forward to it, and for years I’ve been telling Delon, ‘I can see you one day playing in Miami.’ And I’m just so happy that it manifests."


https://www.si.com/nba/heat/miami-news/older-brother-dorell-wright-explains-what-delon-wright-brings-to-miami-heat


He was my number 1 buyout target excluding guys we couldn’t sign due to them making too much money but even then the only 2 as of right now that would be debatable are Dinwiddie and Marcus Morris.

We went from having the worst PG rotation in the league with arguably the worst defense in the back court as well to now having a pretty good PG rotation with a really good mix of scoring, playmaking and defense between the 2
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Post#1784 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:52 am

One thing underrated I like about wright is he’s only going to be 32 by the end of the season, he’s approaching that time where he’s going to be a near vet minimum player who is a very solid rotation player and if Pat finally gets his whale in Dame or DM this summer he’s is a perfect backup or even running mate next to them in the back court with his defense. He could easily be a 3-4 year fit after this season
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Post#1785 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:22 am

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Nice. Feels like Delon was the wright addition.
another 3 point weapon me likey


When Jimmy and Bam are fully engaged, a 3&D PG can be deadly next to them.

Wright can be a supersized Vincent for us, better defender.
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Post#1786 » by IceColdCubano » Wed Feb 21, 2024 12:45 pm

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Nice. Feels like Delon was the wright addition.
another 3 point weapon me likey


When Jimmy and Bam are fully engaged, a 3&D PG can be deadly next to them.

Wright can be a supersized Vincent for us, better defender.


He is a far better fit as a real 3&D PG with very low turn over rate than Terry Rozier. That could have been better spent going after a PF instead. However he wasn't available then, and they took a chance on Rozier who hit the market first. However yes 3&D PG in the playoffs are better for our offense/defense style of game when Jimmy actually turns into the primary scorer, it lessens the need of having a point of attack guard and emphasizes the need on a 3pt shooter.
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Post#1787 » by AirP. » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:18 pm

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We’re either getting Dame discounted this summer after the Bucks get bounced round 2 at the latest or getting in the DM sweepstakes if the Cavs don’t let him go into free agency next summer. Or Pat will just be in a deep slumber

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Post#1789 » by twix2500 » Wed Feb 21, 2024 2:29 pm

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We’re either getting Dame discounted this summer after the Bucks get bounced round 2 at the latest or getting in the DM sweepstakes if the Cavs don’t let him go into free agency next summer. Or Pat will just be in a deep slumber

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The problem the Bucks have is now they need different role mix of players because Of Dame. Beasley doesn't complement Dame.

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Post#1790 » by dshearn » Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:26 pm

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When Jimmy and Bam are fully engaged, a 3&D PG can be deadly next to them.

Wright can be a supersized Vincent for us, better defender.


He is a far better fit as a real 3&D PG with very low turn over rate than Terry Rozier. That could have been better spent going after a PF instead. However he wasn't available then, and they took a chance on Rozier who hit the market first. However yes 3&D PG in the playoffs are better for our offense/defense style of game when Jimmy actually turns into the primary scorer, it lessens the need of having a point of attack guard and emphasizes the need on a 3pt shooter.

so what are you guys thinking?

are we talking about Dipo vs Celtics?

I keep reading the dude makes a ton of plays that dont show up in a stats column..like deflections that land in other player's hands (and they get the credit for the turnover)....is he drag and drop instant defense?
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Post#1791 » by jbsays » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:36 pm

I think I'm less high on Wright. 3.2 APG over his career... is he really a PG?
If he is playing it means there is a lot of money on the bench (either Rozier or Herro).
Is he really better than Richardson or Martin. Yeah Richardson is out for several weeks and Rozier is out short term. But it's not like Richardson (or Wright) are going to be the guy who gets the Heat over the hump. Although I guess never say never with Martin's performance in last years playoffs.

It does nothing to help Heat up front. Wright isn't a bad move and it hedges against the injuries to Richardson and Rozier. Is he really any better than Martin? Maybe the plan is 3 man backcourt rotation with Rozier, Herro, and Wright? But, Wright hasn't averaged over 25MPG in 4 years. I don't see him out there in crunch time locking up the other teams best perimeter player.
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Post#1792 » by marson » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:52 pm

jbsays wrote:I think I'm less high on Wright. 3.2 APG over his career... is he really a PG?
If he is playing it means there is a lot of money on the bench (either Rozier or Herro).
Is he really better than Richardson or Martin. Yeah Richardson is out for several weeks and Rozier is out short term. But it's not like Richardson (or Wright) are going to be the guy who gets the Heat over the hump. Although I guess never say never with Martin's performance in last years playoffs.

It does nothing to help Heat up front. Wright isn't a bad move and it hedges against the injuries to Richardson and Rozier. Is he really any better than Martin? Maybe the plan is 3 man backcourt rotation with Rozier, Herro, and Wright? But, Wright hasn't averaged over 25MPG in 4 years. I don't see him out there in crunch time locking up the other teams best perimeter player.


He averaged more assists than Gabe Vincent. He will just basically play Vincent's role here in the past 2 years which is just to harass the opposing PG defensively and hit occasional 3s, that's it. No need to be a CP3 floor general, that's not his role.
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Post#1793 » by Daffy » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:00 pm

jbsays wrote:I think I'm less high on Wright. 3.2 APG over his career... is he really a PG?
If he is playing it means there is a lot of money on the bench (either Rozier or Herro).
Is he really better than Richardson or Martin. Yeah Richardson is out for several weeks and Rozier is out short term. But it's not like Richardson (or Wright) are going to be the guy who gets the Heat over the hump. Although I guess never say never with Martin's performance in last years playoffs.

It does nothing to help Heat up front. Wright isn't a bad move and it hedges against the injuries to Richardson and Rozier. Is he really any better than Martin? Maybe the plan is 3 man backcourt rotation with Rozier, Herro, and Wright? But, Wright hasn't averaged over 25MPG in 4 years. I don't see him out there in crunch time locking up the other teams best perimeter player.


Sometimes games aren't always won in crunch time (maybe I worded that wrong). What I'm trying to say is he doesn't have to be out there in the end to give us a chance to win. His play during the game could potentially stop runs for the other team or even spark runs for us with some deflected balls that turn into easy transition points.

In the playoffs money on the bench doesn't matter once you're winning. We've had runs where Herro was out, Lowry was benched, Duncan was benched, etc. This year we just need guys to really support what Butler and Bam gives us.

He doesn't necessarily have to be a traditional PG for us. Gabe Vincent was averaging less than 4 assist per game last year in the playoffs for us with 30 mins per game played. Our system in the playoffs don't really utilize PG play in the playmaking context. With Jimmy and Bam's usage going up and I'd expect the same for Herro and Terry.
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Post#1794 » by marson » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:01 pm

Excluding JRich and Caleb, we lack players who are adept at defensive pressure on opposing point guards across the entire court. While specific statistics weren't provided, Dipo and Vincent notably excelled in this role, notably slowing down Trae Young during the 2022 1st round series. This is an aspect of our game that Spo is currently missing, particularly as neither Herro nor Rozier possess this defensive capability. Hopefully, Wright can replicate Vincent's effectiveness in this regard.
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Post#1795 » by jbsays » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:46 pm

Good insights. I guess if he can lock up the other teams best guard or stretches then he can definitely help. Lillard or Maxey for example.

Does Wright have the size to match up to guys like Tatum or Brown? 6'5 so he is similar height to Martin. He also might be a cheap Martin replacement next season as it is likely Heat can't (or won't) afford Martin.
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Post#1796 » by Kobewade11 » Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:55 pm

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Post#1797 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:13 pm

jbsays wrote:Good insights. I guess if he can lock up the other teams best guard or stretches then he can definitely help. Lillard or Maxey for example.

Does Wright have the size to match up to guys like Tatum or Brown? 6'5 so he is similar height to Martin. He also might be a cheap Martin replacement next season as it is likely Heat can't (or won't) afford Martin.


Highsmith has made Tatums life hell and he’s only 6’5 but he’s got 35 pounds on wright and 4 inches on his wingspan. We’ve got the forwards covered with HH, Jimmy, Caleb, and Bam. We needed someone like Dipo for the guards like Jrue and especially White who always torches us, now we have that. I do think Wright can make it tough for Brown too just not sure how I like the fit against Tatum. I would rather bam or Highsmith there
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Post#1800 » by twix2500 » Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:43 pm

Are you all sure Wright is a good 3 pt shooter????

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