Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24

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Sunk cost fallacy

[Celts17Pride]

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[brackdan70]

If Queta is converted, depth chart gonna look like this:

White | Holiday | Brown | Tatum | Porzingis
Pritchard | Hauser | Brissett | Tillman | Horford
Springer | Svi | Walsh | Queta | Kornet

I'd still rather have a vet that can play in the postseason but doesn't need to. Guys like Springer, Walsh, and Queta aren't playoff-ready. What is a Svi and why is he still on the roster?

EDIT: Two-ways can join the team in the playoffs. They just aren't eligible to play, correct? They can still practice and join in the sidelines? Queta and Davison should at least experience what it's like in the playoffs (prep, game atmosphere, etc.) even if they won't be able to play.

I could see Springer getting minutes over Brissett as he settles in.

[brackdan70]

I wonder if Svi is on the roster because he's really good in practice or because teams didn't want him even as salary/roster spot match.

Secret weapon…waiting until the conference finals to really unleash the Svi

[165bows]

I wonder if Svi is on the roster because he's really good in practice or because teams didn't want him even as salary/roster spot match.

Secret weapon…waiting until the conference finals to really unleash the Svi

Svi makes a lot more sense if one just pretends he’s 2022 Nik Stauskas.

[Curmudgeon]

There's going to be a game when they will want 5 three point shooters on the floor at the end. That's what Svi is for. He's Gigi Datome redux.

The only buyout candidate who could possible take minutes from Brissett is Cedi Osman.

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Do it, Brad.

A proven vet, one with playoff experience, NBA finals experience (where he shot like 55% from 3), experience winning a ring and doing it on a team that was a dynasty so he learned stuff from the warriors.

Just give OPJ our open roster spot. Keep our 2-way guys on 2-ways. Tillman is active for tonight so we won't really need Queta anymore anyways..

Look at how deep and talented this 15 man roster is:

C KP
F JT
F JB
G White
G Jrue

6th man: Al

Other bench guys who can help in the playoffs: Hauser / Pritchard / Tillman / OPJ

Deep bench guys who could *maybe* help a little bit in the playoffs if we're in a pinch or depending on matchups (like if we want to put Springer in there for a few mins to slow down Brunson/Dame/Maxey/Murray/SGA or if we want to throw Brissett in for a short stint to fly around and grab some boards: Springer / Brissett

Deep bench big who probably won't play unless it's garbage time but is there just in case we might need him to eat a few mins and not mess up too bad if we're in a pinch and need an emergency big: Kornet

Will only play in garbage time: Svi / Walsh

That's a championship team right there, no question.

[TheMartian]

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Do it, Brad.

A proven vet, one with playoff experience, NBA finals experience (where he shot like 55% from 3), experience winning a ring and doing it on a team that was a dynasty so he learned stuff from the warriors.

Just give OPJ our open roster spot. Keep our 2-way guys on 2-ways. Tillman is active for tonight so we won't really need Queta anymore anyways..

OPJ is going to be our PJ Brown signing this season on the way to a championship. They both even have "PJ" in their initials. It's a sign.

[CelticsPride18]

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Do it, Brad.

A proven vet, one with playoff experience, NBA finals experience (where he shot like 55% from 3), experience winning a ring and doing it on a team that was a dynasty so he learned stuff from the warriors.

Just give OPJ our open roster spot. Keep our 2-way guys on 2-ways. Tillman is active for tonight so we won't really need Queta anymore anyways..

Look at how deep and talented this 15 man roster is:

C KP
F JT
F JB
G White
G Jrue

6th man: Al

Other bench guys who can help in the playoffs: Hauser / Pritchard / Tillman / OPJ

Deep bench guys who could *maybe* help a little bit in the playoffs if we're in a pinch or depending on matchups (like if we want to put Springer in there for a few mins to slow down Brunson/Dame/Maxey/Murray/SGA or if we want to throw Brissett in for a short stint to fly around and grab some boards: Springer / Brissett

Deep bench big who probably won't play unless it's garbage time but is there just in case we might need him to eat a few mins and not mess up too bad if we're in a pinch and need an emergency big: Kornet

Will only play in garbage time: Svi / Walsh

That's a championship team right there, no question.

I like our chances. Most contenders already signed buyout guys and his wife it’s from Toronto if I’m not mistaken. He can closer to his family

[Hal14]

It's happening!

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Do it, Brad.

A proven vet, one with playoff experience, NBA finals experience (where he shot like 55% from 3), experience winning a ring and doing it on a team that was a dynasty so he learned stuff from the warriors.

Just give OPJ our open roster spot. Keep our 2-way guys on 2-ways. Tillman is active for tonight so we won't really need Queta anymore anyways..

Look at how deep and talented this 15 man roster is:

C KP
F JT
F JB
G White
G Jrue

6th man: Al

Other bench guys who can help in the playoffs: Hauser / Pritchard / Tillman / OPJ

Deep bench guys who could *maybe* help a little bit in the playoffs if we're in a pinch or depending on matchups (like if we want to put Springer in there for a few mins to slow down Brunson/Dame/Maxey/Murray/SGA or if we want to throw Brissett in for a short stint to fly around and grab some boards: Springer / Brissett

Deep bench big who probably won't play unless it's garbage time but is there just in case we might need him to eat a few mins and not mess up too bad if we're in a pinch and need an emergency big: Kornet

Will only play in garbage time: Svi / Walsh

That's a championship team right there, no question.

I like our chances. Most contenders already signed buyout guys and his wife it’s from Toronto if I’m not mistaken. He can closer to his family

Yeah and there were rumors before the trade deadline that the Celtics were interested in OPJ..

[shackles10]

But he looks like Wilt so should we be worried about any double agent stuff here? Only somewhat serious...

[Memokerobi]

https://theathletic.com/5291197/2024/02/21/otto-porter-jr-jazz-future/

Jazz allowing Otto Porter Jr. to head home, evaluate options

"Utah Jazz forward Otto Porter Jr. has returned home to evaluate his options for the remainder of the season and will not be with the team Thursday night when the Jazz open the second half of their schedule against the Charlotte Hornets, league sources tell The Athletic.

The 30-year-old Porter, whom the Jazz acquired two weeks ago when they traded Kelly Olynyk and Ochai Agbaji to the Toronto Raptors, is fully healthy and ready to play, according to league sources. His options include accepting a contract buyout from the Jazz, which would allow him to sign with another team. Porter would have to sign with another team by March 1 to be eligible to play in the postseason."

He only needs to be bought out by March 1st to be eligible I think but it looks like he might be bought out before then

[zoyathedestroya]

OPJ shares a birthday with Al Horford and same hometown as his lesser self, Jayson Tatum. All the more reason he should sign with the Celtics.

[165bows]

Porter Jr., The Good: Title Winner, played well against Boston in the Finals in limited minutes (.588/.563/1.000 splits), probably doesn't feel like he needs to play a lot, efficient guy for his career (.529/.397/.797 2PT/3PT/FT% splits), very low turnover guy for his career (7.8% turnover rate, led the league in best rate once and was top-20 in lowest turnover rate three times). Plays a valuable position of defensive three point shooting combo forward/big.

Porter Jr, The Bad: Played i 23 games in two years, 6 year games played totals of 14, 28, 63, 8, 15 (...so far!), makes Brogdon seem durable. Doesn't get to the FT line, 2PT attempts have fallen off a cliff so he's another 3PT only specialist. Career 14.6 points/36 minutes is a lowish volume scorer, gone the way of Al Horford recently in terms of scoring volume nearing 10 points/36 miutes over the past three years, ie, very low volume scorer.

Tl;dr: if he wants to come and wave a towel and maybe play 50-100 minutes RS/playoffs combined, bring him in!

Fun fact: Otto Porter Jr. played more games in the 2022 playoffs than he has in either of the 22/23 and 23/24 regular seasons, and almost combined lol.

[Hal14]

OPJ shares a birthday with Al Horford and same hometown as his lesser self, Jayson Tatum. All the more reason he should sign with the Celtics.

No way, he's from St. Louis? Just checked, you're right.

Oh man, this is definitely happening. JT and him have probably crossed paths over the years because of the St Louis connection - especially since OPJ is same age as Bradley Beal. JT might give Brad a little nudge to get him.

And he has same bday as Horford - that's just the icing on the cake.

This makes too much sense..

[shackles10]

He feels washed from the eye/stats test, but idk who else is a better option to fill the 15h spot with. Maybe someone shakes free in the next week, but maybe more likely nobody does and he's the best option that we let slip past because we waited on something that never came to be. I would assume Brad would have some unofficial tampering info of who would be shaking loose that all teams have but we have no knowledge of so if we get him I'll not worry about the next week of rumors. Either way, I'll be a company man and say, "I trust Brad."

[playa-hater]

It won't make a difference. Joe will go into a 5-man rotation come playoffs..

[Celts17Pride]

It won't make a difference. Joe will go into a 5-man rotation come playoffs..

I don't know, could be a 4 man rotation.

[Hal14]

He feels washed from the eye/stats test, but idk who else is a better option to fill the 15h spot with. Maybe someone shakes free in the next week, but maybe more likely nobody does and he's the best option that we let slip past because we waited on something that never came to be. I would assume Brad would have some unofficial tampering info of who would be shaking loose that all teams have but we have no knowledge of so if we get him I'll not worry about the next week of rumors. Either way, I'll be a company man and say, "I trust Brad."

Maybe.

But in terms of stats test, I think his stats just don't look great because he was barely getting any playing time in Toronto.

Plus he was injured a bit this season which will affect your stats (but reports are saying he is "now *fully* healthy".Not to mention he was on a bad Raptors team with no direction, and not much in terms of roles being defined on their team..

Still, these are his numbers on catch and shoot 3's

23-24 reg season, 15 games: 36.4%
22-23 reg season, 8 games: 37.5%
21-22 playoffs, 19 games: 40.9%
21-22 reg season, 63 games: 35.7%
20-21 reg season, 28 games: 40.4%

Eye test, from some of the film I've seen this season he looks a a step slower. And possibly washed. But again, that might just be because he was banged up (but is fully healthy now). Or because there wasn't much reason for him to play super hard on that bad Raptors team - he could get some extra motivation to put in more hustle if he joins a contender.

This game was from November.IMO, looks like he at least has *some* gas left in the tank.

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:12 hits a 3
:35 nice drive and kick out pass

[JaMarco]

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Do it, Brad.

A proven vet, one with playoff experience, NBA finals experience (where he shot like 55% from 3), experience winning a ring and doing it on a team that was a dynasty so he learned stuff from the warriors.

Just give OPJ our open roster spot. Keep our 2-way guys on 2-ways. Tillman is active for tonight so we won't really need Queta anymore anyways..

Look at how deep and talented this 15 man roster is:

C KP
F JT
F JB
G White
G Jrue

6th man: Al

Other bench guys who can help in the playoffs: Hauser / Pritchard / Tillman / OPJ

Deep bench guys who could *maybe* help a little bit in the playoffs if we're in a pinch or depending on matchups (like if we want to put Springer in there for a few mins to slow down Brunson/Dame/Maxey/Murray/SGA or if we want to throw Brissett in for a short stint to fly around and grab some boards: Springer / Brissett

Deep bench big who probably won't play unless it's garbage time but is there just in case we might need him to eat a few mins and not mess up too bad if we're in a pinch and need an emergency big: Kornet

Will only play in garbage time: Svi / Walsh

That's a championship team right there, no question.

I'll take it.