JMAC3 wrote:The Sebastian Express wrote:JMAC3 wrote:
I can’t take this post serious because you obviously didn’t take the time to actually look at players rookie years. Michael Jordan wasn’t good as a rookie? Just a measly 28 ppg and won RoY lol
Do you take yourself less seriously because you didn't read the entire second sentence? Specifically the part where we can connect the sentence structure as:
"How many 20 year old rookies" with "either didn't put up star numbers or
were a year or two older.(aka the Jordan inclusion, since he was twenty-one and a half (Drafted 84, born in February 63)) when the NBA season started"
If you knew anything about Blazers posters at all, you'd know zzaj is both one of the biggest (but fairest) criticis of Scoot and had expressed concerns prior to the draft and was leaning towards Anthony Black.
Y'all got read better and maybe let this go a bit.
Yes, clearly my bad. I should have gone to the Blazers board and scrolled through all his comments about Scoot. Get off your soap box.
Just don't mention Jordan at all then if it is completely irrelevant.
Paolo, Maturin, Ivey were all better as 20 yr old rookies last year.
Jalen Green, Franz, Scottie, Cade, Mobley all better than Scoot as rookies 2 years ago.
Edwards and Ball 3 years ago.
There is no point to try and go back 20 years and list guys with no relevance to the convo when there are plenty of recent examples of rookies being good as 19/20 yrs old
Baby, the only one on a soap box is you. As you have been for the entire season. I get you feel you and your franchise were humiliated in the leadup to the draft. But you coming to dump on a nineteen year old kid after every bad game is pretty odd. Especially when you ignore any counter arguments to your own.
That you then misread or fail to comprehend the points of people and use it to try to mock them is bewildering. You don't need to double down.
zzaj, who has been very much a fair critic of Scoot all year and ahead of the draft, came in here to offer a valid point. And a good piece to the conversation.
I don't think any single one of us in Portland has claimed he is better than Paolo, Cade, Mobley or even Franz in rookie years. Nor close to Edward or Ball. But likewise, you're ignoring the context of his current team situation. Of course all Portland fans are aware of what's happening in Portland right now. So we don't judge him too much on stats, only on how he's looking with more reps in terms of control and improving his feel for the game.
Like as I posted earlier, I've enjoyed him seeking out contact more and learning to take such rather than avoid and put up wild shots, which has seen a 10% increase in his 0-5ft percentage over the last fifteen games.Still much room to grow. And he is growing.
You got a nice young player. And i thnk Amen and Ausar are nice young players too. Also Anthony Black. And Cam Whitmore. But unlike you, I don't feel the need to go and tear down those kids when they have bad games. And they do have bad games. Quite a few. Because they're kids, most of htem in unique situations for whichever reason, learning to play. They all have flaws and great positives. And when they have better games than Scoot, it doesn't make me feel bad or resent them. It doesn't drive me to watch for those bad games even more to pounce.
I hope one day you're interested in legitimate discussion on him rather than ignoring any and everything posted about him that's positive to counter some of your arguments. I think with how quickly you jumped on zzaj, outright ignore the context of his post and his sentences, just to try to score a win, a dunk, says a lot about what's really going on here. As did your reaction to it being pointed out to you how your post trying to mock him was a result of your own shortcoming in that moment.
