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Re: The Knicks Injury Report thread. 

Post#101 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:11 pm

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all of the "expectations" were based on speculation though. there was never a timeline shared. just what people thought based on what they thought the injury entails. self-inflicted wounds. :(

Basically we don't know and the FO isn't saying or it's not clear to them either. That's for both positive and negative prognostications

It means he hasnt been cleared for contact yet , and they need to be able to see how he reacts to that before they can give a more accurate return timetable. He likely wont be hundred percent because of how he plays, But a 70 percent Randle is better than nothing... And with the new additions and Mitch returning, he's got a lot of strong support.

Offseason he gets the surgery and we are ready to rock and roll .


Ummm...no. Rushing back at 70% to play with Boj/Burks? Hoping Mitch comes back? This makes no sense. Boj will be his backup and Burks? :o Risking his career for those reasons is just YOU hoping to get him back and not any reality based decision making process.

OG is the only injured player with any realistic return date. Everything else is pure speculation and fan based hopes and dreams right now. Until he is actually re-evaluated there is no return date worth discussing.
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Post#102 » by 8516knicks » Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:34 pm

Sounds like we might be finishing the season with Jalen, Hart, Bogs, Precious, Deuce, Burks, Sims and a bunch of G leaguers? Oh well, as someone said, "We'll always have January." :D
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Post#103 » by RHODEY » Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:52 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:Basically we don't know and the FO isn't saying or it's not clear to them either. That's for both positive and negative prognostications

It means he hasnt been cleared for contact yet , and they need to be able to see how he reacts to that before they can give a more accurate return timetable. He likely wont be hundred percent because of how he plays, But a 70 percent Randle is better than nothing... And with the new additions and Mitch returning, he's got a lot of strong support.

Offseason he gets the surgery and we are ready to rock and roll .


Ummm...no. Rushing back at 70% to play with Boj/Burks? Hoping Mitch comes back? This makes no sense. Boj will be his backup and Burks? :o Risking his career for those reasons is just YOU hoping to get him back and not any reality based decision making process.

OG is the only injured player with any realistic return date. Everything else is pure speculation and fan based hopes and dreams right now. Until he is actually re-evaluated there is no return date worth discussing.


No what?...Never said I endorsed him rushing back. I just said from a basketballstandpoint him being on the court at 70 percents is better than nothing. Sure its risky in terms of re injuring. But Julius is going to have the final say.
I also never said that there was a realistic return date for Mitch or Randle...its all speculation...which isn't inherently right or wrong to discuss.
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Post#109 » by stuporman » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:38 am

Kampuchea wrote:I wonder if Thibs is not playing the top guys enough minutes? Things turned last game when Brunson came out in the 2nd quarter.

Looking at the minutes across the league and considering our depleted roster Thibs needs to be kept under control with his giving too few minutes to guys. Just check the minutes per game

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-minutes-per-game-leaders-this-season


What I would like to see is the breakdown of mins given to starters across the league for each team to see where Thibs falls along those lines. Not just for a few players but to all the starters in general even considering line up changes through the year.

I wouldn't know where to find that data without compiling it myself.
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Re: ASB Injury updates thread: 

Post#110 » by Kampuchea » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:53 am

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Kampuchea wrote:I wonder if Thibs is not playing the top guys enough minutes? Things turned last game when Brunson came out in the 2nd quarter.

Looking at the minutes across the league and considering our depleted roster Thibs needs to be kept under control with his giving too few minutes to guys. Just check the minutes per game

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-minutes-per-game-leaders-this-season


What I would like to see is the breakdown of mins given to starters across the league for each team to see where Thibs falls along those lines. Not just for a few players but to all the starters in general even considering line up changes through the year.

I wouldn't know where to find that data without compiling it myself.


Not sure how calculated

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/which-nba-team-plays-the-most-starter-minutes-per-game
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Post#112 » by Capn'O » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:11 pm

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Post#113 » by stuporman » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:17 pm

Kampuchea wrote:
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Kampuchea wrote:I wonder if Thibs is not playing the top guys enough minutes? Things turned last game when Brunson came out in the 2nd quarter.

Looking at the minutes across the league and considering our depleted roster Thibs needs to be kept under control with his giving too few minutes to guys. Just check the minutes per game

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-minutes-per-game-leaders-this-season


What I would like to see is the breakdown of mins given to starters across the league for each team to see where Thibs falls along those lines. Not just for a few players but to all the starters in general even considering line up changes through the year.

I wouldn't know where to find that data without compiling it myself.


Not sure how calculated

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/which-nba-team-plays-the-most-starter-minutes-per-game


Ok, well, it's probably calculated by the combined minutes played by the players that are the 'starter' each game average over the games played.

Knicks near the top but not the very top, I don't see people constantly talking about minutes for the Celtics, Wolves, Nuggets and even injury prone old teams in Suns and Lakers.

I'm sure someone will come right in behind this post telling me how Thibs is worse because he plays all the starters 40mpg and a 7man rotation, ignoring that the actual data disproves it.
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Re: The Knicks Injury Report thread. 

Post#114 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:17 pm

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Post#115 » by stuporman » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:20 pm

If this forum had an injury report many of you would be on it with a broken brain, butthurt and bruised feelings. Of course, I'd be listed with swelling on the forehead... :banghead:

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Post#116 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:21 pm

stuporman wrote:
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What I would like to see is the breakdown of mins given to starters across the league for each team to see where Thibs falls along those lines. Not just for a few players but to all the starters in general even considering line up changes through the year.

I wouldn't know where to find that data without compiling it myself.


Not sure how calculated

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/which-nba-team-plays-the-most-starter-minutes-per-game


Ok, well, it's probably calculated by the combined minutes played by the players that are the 'starter' each game average over the games played.

Knicks near the top but not the very top, I don't see people constantly talking about minutes for the Celtics, Wolves, Nuggets and even injury prone old teams in Suns and Lakers.

I'm sure someone will come right in behind this post telling me how Thibs is worse because he plays all the starters 40mpg and a 7man rotation, ignoring that the actual data disproves it.


What's up bro? You mad because you were wrong in another thread and wanna throw subs in this one? Figures. Grow up little boy.
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Post#117 » by stuporman » Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:26 pm

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Ok, well, it's probably calculated by the combined minutes played by the players that are the 'starter' each game average over the games played.

Knicks near the top but not the very top, I don't see people constantly talking about minutes for the Celtics, Wolves, Nuggets and even injury prone old teams in Suns and Lakers.

I'm sure someone will come right in behind this post telling me how Thibs is worse because he plays all the starters 40mpg and a 7man rotation, ignoring that the actual data disproves it.


What's up bro? You mad because you were wrong in another thread and wanna throw subs in this one? Figures. Grow up little boy.


So it seems you are listed with all three of broken brain, butthurt and bruised feelings... I feel the swelling on the forehead acting up again... :rofl:

Still unanswered question... are you ok with a worse record for a longer rotation?

Also still unanswered question... what do you think my point is and how is it 'wrong'?
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Post#118 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:50 pm

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Ok, well, it's probably calculated by the combined minutes played by the players that are the 'starter' each game average over the games played.

Knicks near the top but not the very top, I don't see people constantly talking about minutes for the Celtics, Wolves, Nuggets and even injury prone old teams in Suns and Lakers.

I'm sure someone will come right in behind this post telling me how Thibs is worse because he plays all the starters 40mpg and a 7man rotation, ignoring that the actual data disproves it.


What's up bro? You mad because you were wrong in another thread and wanna throw subs in this one? Figures. Grow up little boy.


So it seems you are listed with all three of broken brain, butthurt and bruised feelings... I feel the swelling on the forehead acting up again... :rofl:

Still unanswered question... are you ok with a worse record for a longer rotation?

Also still unanswered question... what do you think my point is and how is it 'wrong'?


I don't care to engage with you anymore because facts and context escape you. I made a true statement and you can't let it go. We weren't winning when Thibs was running the short rotations in the end. Period. So that's a ridiculous point to try and make. We were lucky to get a few wins at first but, the wheels continued to fall off as a result. He ran them into the ground. Several players were worn out by the break. Did you miss that part of the season? Cutting minutes from Deuce for Burks(which I originally said was a small sample size) was dumb. We needed everyone to play to protect players health as opposed to losing every game while players kept getting hurt. Short term vs long term results. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to tell you.

It started when Mitch went down. Suddenly iHart went from playing 18-20 mpg to 35-40 mpg for weeks until he re-aggravates an achilles issue that he had when we first got him.

We trade for OG and Thibs ran him 40 mpg until he came down with an elbow injury that is the result of overuse.

We lost Randle at the same time late in a game we were winning by double digits. I don't necessarily blame Thibs for that injury but, it happened.

We get iHart back and he re-aggravates the same injury.

He played Brunson/DDV/Hart/Precious 40+ mpg for weeks. We lost Brunson for a game. We lost DDV and Boj(who was injured when we traded for him) as well.

So why are we cutting minutes for Burks again? Deuce is the only player in the rotation who wasn't injured besides Precious. We needed all hands on deck. That's a fact that escapes you as you continue to insult me.

So whatever you want to keep coming at me about is insanely ridiculous. You are just being a snarky dick bag as you admitted. Maybe it's you who suffers all of the above issues. It's pretty clear that is the case.
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Post#119 » by stuporman » Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:22 pm

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What's up bro? You mad because you were wrong in another thread and wanna throw subs in this one? Figures. Grow up little boy.


So it seems you are listed with all three of broken brain, butthurt and bruised feelings... I feel the swelling on the forehead acting up again... :rofl:

Still unanswered question... are you ok with a worse record for a longer rotation?

Also still unanswered question... what do you think my point is and how is it 'wrong'?


I don't care to engage with you anymore because facts and context escape you. I made a true statement and you can't let it go. We weren't winning when Thibs was running the short rotations in the end. Period. So that's a ridiculous point to try and make. We were lucky to get a few wins at first but, the wheels continued to fall off as a result. He ran them into the ground. Several players were worn out by the break. Did you miss that part of the season? Cutting minutes from Deuce for Burks(which I originally said was a small sample size) was dumb. We needed everyone to play to protect players health as opposed to losing every game while players kept getting hurt. Short term vs long term results. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to tell you.

It started when Mitch went down. Suddenly iHart went from playing 18-20 mpg to 35-40 mpg for weeks until he re-aggravates an achilles issue that he had when we first got him.

We trade for OG and Thibs ran him 40 mpg until he came down with an elbow injury that is the result of overuse.

We lost Randle at the same time late in a game we were winning by double digits. I don't necessarily blame Thibs for that injury but, it happened.

We get iHart back and he re-aggravates the same injury.

He played Brunson/DDV/Hart/Precious 40+ mpg for weeks. We lost Brunson for a game. We lost DDV and Boj(who was injured when we traded for him) as well.

So why are we cutting minutes for Burks again? Deuce is the only player in the rotation who wasn't injured besides Precious. We needed all hands on deck. That's a fact that escapes you as you continue to insult me.

So whatever you want to keep coming at me about is insanely ridiculous. You are just being a snarky dick bag as you admitted. Maybe it's you who suffers all of the above issues. It's pretty clear that is the case.


"I won't engage with you anymore" then go on to engage some more...self owned. :lol:

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Post#120 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:53 pm

stuporman wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
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So it seems you are listed with all three of broken brain, butthurt and bruised feelings... I feel the swelling on the forehead acting up again... :rofl:

Still unanswered question... are you ok with a worse record for a longer rotation?

Also still unanswered question... what do you think my point is and how is it 'wrong'?


I don't care to engage with you anymore because facts and context escape you. I made a true statement and you can't let it go. We weren't winning when Thibs was running the short rotations in the end. Period. So that's a ridiculous point to try and make. We were lucky to get a few wins at first but, the wheels continued to fall off as a result. He ran them into the ground. Several players were worn out by the break. Did you miss that part of the season? Cutting minutes from Deuce for Burks(which I originally said was a small sample size) was dumb. We needed everyone to play to protect players health as opposed to losing every game while players kept getting hurt. Short term vs long term results. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to tell you.

It started when Mitch went down. Suddenly iHart went from playing 18-20 mpg to 35-40 mpg for weeks until he re-aggravates an achilles issue that he had when we first got him.

We trade for OG and Thibs ran him 40 mpg until he came down with an elbow injury that is the result of overuse.

We lost Randle at the same time late in a game we were winning by double digits. I don't necessarily blame Thibs for that injury but, it happened.

We get iHart back and he re-aggravates the same injury.

He played Brunson/DDV/Hart/Precious 40+ mpg for weeks. We lost Brunson for a game. We lost DDV and Boj(who was injured when we traded for him) as well.

So why are we cutting minutes for Burks again? Deuce is the only player in the rotation who wasn't injured besides Precious. We needed all hands on deck. That's a fact that escapes you as you continue to insult me.

So whatever you want to keep coming at me about is insanely ridiculous. You are just being a snarky dick bag as you admitted. Maybe it's you who suffers all of the above issues. It's pretty clear that is the case.


"I won't engage with you anymore" then go on to engage some more...self owned. :lol:

Still running from honest questions....scary questions.


Running from an honest question? Stop it dude. You haven't been honest in this entire back and forth. I'm done. Drop it and leave me the fuq alone now. I said what I said and it was a fact. You want to keep dragging this out.

It was dumb to bench/cut Deuces minutes...and anyone else he refused to play when we needed bodies. Period. We were losing games at the end of that run. We were losing players while losing those games. What is so hard to understand? It's not like I was asking to start Jacob Toppin. I also said it was a small sample size with Deuce/Burks. Something triggered you to come at facts. You don't shorten rotations when your team is suffering mounting injuries to multiple players. ESPECIALLY when as a result, more players get injured. Common sense.

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