Who you draft this year, 19 yr old Wemby or Durant

[NbaAllDay]

Is his rookie season better than Chet, Luka, or Blake Griffin's? Of course Chet and Blake were actually 2nd year and older

Yes. Look past the box score and realise he is doing it all in 28 mins a game and actually see his impact.

like how Spurs, OKC, Mavs, Clippers are/were winning or improving from previous season?

So we are relegating a Rookies impact to how much his team wins/loses in his first year? The year that usually has the least amount of direct impact due to generally a change in a lot of factors. Such as the team makeup? His playuing time? His role assigned?

And exactly to what you said, 2nd year players basically removes them from the equation because even though I said 'rookie' year, this whole assumption is based on a timeline. If you seriously believe Wemby isn't going to improve in year 2, when matching them, or even at the start of year 2 if you want to be pedantic then I don't how else to articulate the point to you.

Please detail how Blake or Luka were better in their Rookie year.

Even if we could spin around twice and make it so, it still wouldn't change the fact of taking a potentially once in a life time talent (showing some evidence of it) over Durant

[dygaction]

Yes. Look past the box score and realise he is doing it all in 28 mins a game and actually see his impact.

like how Spurs, OKC, Mavs, Clippers are/were winning or improving from previous season?

So we are relegating a Rookies impact to how much his team wins/loses in his first year? The year that usually has the least amount of direct impact due to generally a change in a lot of factors. Such as the team makeup? His playuing time? His role assigned?

And exactly to what you said, 2nd year players basically removes them from the equation because even though I said 'rookie' year, this whole assumption is based on a timeline. If you seriously believe Wemby isn't going to improve in year 2, when matching them, or even at the start of year 2 if you want to be pedantic then I don't how else to articulate the point to you.

Please detail how Blake or Luka were better in their Rookie year.

Even if we could spin around twice and make it so, it still wouldn't change the fact of taking a potentially once in a life time talent (showing some evidence of it) over Durant

Luka's raw stats 21/7.8/6.0 and advanced stats 19.6PER/.545TS%/(.101WS/48)/3.9BPM
Wemby's 20.5/10/3.2/3.2b and advanced stats 22PER/.564TS%/(.058WS/48)/3.3BPM
It is hard to say Wemby's definetly better. Luka also did not get to have the ball in his hand at the beginning playing SG. If Wemby also makes leap the 2nd year like Luka does, then his ceiling would be higher as big man as his defensive end presence is too big.

[NbaAllDay]

like how Spurs, OKC, Mavs, Clippers are/were winning or improving from previous season?

So we are relegating a Rookies impact to how much his team wins/loses in his first year? The year that usually has the least amount of direct impact due to generally a change in a lot of factors. Such as the team makeup? His playuing time? His role assigned?

And exactly to what you said, 2nd year players basically removes them from the equation because even though I said 'rookie' year, this whole assumption is based on a timeline. If you seriously believe Wemby isn't going to improve in year 2, when matching them, or even at the start of year 2 if you want to be pedantic then I don't how else to articulate the point to you.

Please detail how Blake or Luka were better in their Rookie year.

Even if we could spin around twice and make it so, it still wouldn't change the fact of taking a potentially once in a life time talent (showing some evidence of it) over Durant

Luka's raw stats 21/7.8/6.0 and advanced stats 19.6PER/.545TS%/(.101WS/48)/3.9BPM
Wemby's 20.5/10/3.2/3.2b and advanced stats 22PER/.564TS%/(.058WS/48)/3.3BPM
It is hard to say Wemby's definetly better. Luka also did not get to have the ball in his hand at the beginning playing SG. If Wemby also makes leap the 2nd year like Luka does, then his ceiling would be higher as big man as his defensive end presence is too big.

I never like using the word 'clearly' but it's a comfortable enough gap when you consider luka also played 4 minutes a game more and Wemby is up their as one of the best Defender's in the league already. Unless you believe Luka is significantly better offensively in his Rookie year he doesn't bridge that gap.

[dygaction]

So we are relegating a Rookies impact to how much his team wins/loses in his first year? The year that usually has the least amount of direct impact due to generally a change in a lot of factors. Such as the team makeup? His playuing time? His role assigned?

And exactly to what you said, 2nd year players basically removes them from the equation because even though I said 'rookie' year, this whole assumption is based on a timeline. If you seriously believe Wemby isn't going to improve in year 2, when matching them, or even at the start of year 2 if you want to be pedantic then I don't how else to articulate the point to you.

Please detail how Blake or Luka were better in their Rookie year.

Even if we could spin around twice and make it so, it still wouldn't change the fact of taking a potentially once in a life time talent (showing some evidence of it) over Durant

Luka's raw stats 21/7.8/6.0 and advanced stats 19.6PER/.545TS%/(.101WS/48)/3.9BPM
Wemby's 20.5/10/3.2/3.2b and advanced stats 22PER/.564TS%/(.058WS/48)/3.3BPM
It is hard to say Wemby's definetly better. Luka also did not get to have the ball in his hand at the beginning playing SG. If Wemby also makes leap the 2nd year like Luka does, then his ceiling would be higher as big man as his defensive end presence is too big.

I never like using the word 'clearly' but it's a comfortable enough gap when you consider luka also played 4 minutes a game more and Wemby is up their as one of the best Defender's in the league already. Unless you believe Luka is significantly better offensively in his Rookie year he doesn't bridge that gap.

That's fair, I may lean toward Wemby as well even though I don't agree with the 4 min evaluation. DSJ had the ball in hand for many games, Luka as famous as high usage rate, was actually a few % lower usage than Wemby

[LukaTheGOAT]

Floor for Durant is a top 25 NBA player of all time. Is the median outcome for Wemby top 25 all time? Probably not

I think it's higher. His floor if hypothetically healthy would be top no lower than top 25. If you factor i the injury risk, then its more likely his median outcome is now top 25, instead of the floor.

Wemby has higher outcomes available to him, even if his shot never actualizes.

[LukaTheGOAT]

It is Wembanyama.

It doesn't matter if you look at them by games or by age, I think Wemby is well ahead at the same stage.

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Assume KD is a +5.5 player overall, which is healthy MVP level.

Wemby is guaranteed to be a +3 DPOY guy, I don't think anyone would dispute this. He is over half way to what KD's general prime value. For Wemby to match KD's value he would need to approximate say 2019 Karl Towns, 99 Kobe, 06 Vince Carter. Those seem easily obtainable benchmarks for Wemby. It is more likely that he shots past those guys on offense, and likely that the mere +3 on defense isn't enough.

Now KD has proven longevity, so there is some safety in that case. However, I think a major stunt in his progression would have to occur for him not to continue to have some sort of lead over KD. I think size ages well, and Wemby's size, length, and wits could help him have Duncan longevity on that end.