Washington - Jordan Poole

[basketballwacko2]

What will it take for Washington to get rid of Poole?
Any rebuild is going to have to consist of building around Avdija and Coulibaly and whichever top 5 pick the Wizards get.
So short of paying a ransom to move Poole, what is a valid trade option.
Maybe LaVine for Poole (filler) and 25 & 26 FRPs?

I think you're stuck with him unless you want to pay picks to move him, and I'm pretty sure I've heard the Wiz are looking to get picks. He's signed through 2026-27 and will the team be winning before that? I'd say no. Just sit on him he can be your tank commander.

[basketballwacko2]

My thoughts with Poole is that if he continues to get worse for the remaining season plus into the next following season, then I see that the Wizards would have no choice but to utilize the stretch provision on Poole's contract(Merely as the last resort). The Pistons had to use this measure on Josh Smith near a decade ago.

If Poole somehow improves his game back to good standing, then I would find a suitor who's willing to take on Poole and run with it.

I don't think I'd stretch him that just makes the pain take longer to go away. After the 25/26 season just buy him out of that last year. If he continues to be as bad as he is now then so be it.

[basketballwacko2]

Yep. as many posters noted, the Wizards are stuck with Jordan as tank captain for the foreseeable future.

They can't trade him, his contract is terrible. I think the Wizards would have been better off keeping Chris Paul instead of making that trade. They got a 2nd in 2027 and a top 20 protected #1 in 2030. But if that doesn't convey it becomes a 2nd.

[FeatheryTouch]

Washington should in full rebuild lottery mode and accumulating assets for the next couple of seasons, they should be ok letting him be the tank commander for a year or two.

That said I actually believe Poole can still be a useful player in this league in the right support role(i.e. instant offense in GS title run), but he's too erratic right now to be the lead dog on any competitive team.

[Hoppy1]

I guess Washington can look at it as they have already saved $20MM by taking Poole and sending Beal (Paul).
They should have enough cap space to be available to take a bad short contract if someone attaches picks to it.
If they get lucky enough to get Topic/Sarr in the draft, they might slowly start a climb.
I get frustrated seeing the same teams in the bottom of the league year after year.

[HornetJail]

Yep. as many posters noted, the Wizards are stuck with Jordan as tank captain for the foreseeable future.

They can't trade him, his contract is terrible. I think the Wizards would have been better off keeping Chris Paul instead of making that trade. They got a 2nd in 2027 and a top 20 protected #1 in 2030. But if that doesn't convey it becomes a 2nd.

i can't believe they didn't even get a guaranteed 1st

[penbeast0]

Yep. as many posters noted, the Wizards are stuck with Jordan as tank captain for the foreseeable future.

They can't trade him, his contract is terrible. I think the Wizards would have been better off keeping Chris Paul instead of making that trade. They got a 2nd in 2027 and a top 20 protected #1 in 2030. But if that doesn't convey it becomes a 2nd.

i can't believe they didn't even get a guaranteed 1st

When you add in the Morris for a 2nd follow-up, they got almost nothing for Porzingis as well as the difference between that year's Tyus Jones and that year's Monte Morris was not great (last year Morris was injured and ineffective so last year it was quite large). They did get a nice deal for Beal but I think they just wanted to tear down the house to the studs and start over and were willing to take less than fair value to accomplish that.

[basketballwacko2]

They can't trade him, his contract is terrible. I think the Wizards would have been better off keeping Chris Paul instead of making that trade. They got a 2nd in 2027 and a top 20 protected #1 in 2030. But if that doesn't convey it becomes a 2nd.

i can't believe they didn't even get a guaranteed 1st

When you add in the Morris for a 2nd follow-up, they got almost nothing for Porzingis as well as the difference between that year's Tyus Jones and that year's Monte Morris was not great (last year Morris was injured and ineffective so last year it was quite large). They did get a nice deal for Beal but I think they just wanted to tear down the house to the studs and start over and were willing to take less than fair value to accomplish that.

Sometimes one bad move leads to another! There is no question that if they had kept CP they could have just let him sit on the bench if nothing else or played him 15 min a game then they could have traded him at the deadline if he wasn't hurt. They won't not have had to take a train wreck like Poole for nearly nothing.

They got Gallo and Muscala and they were then traded to the Pistons for Bagley III and Livers and some draft considerations what ever that means. Julian Phiillips was the 35th pick in 2023 from the KP trade, he went to Chicago for 26 and 27 2nd round picks.

So out of CP and Porzingis they got Tyus Jones, Bagley III, Livers, Baldwin jr, Poole and 3 2nd round pick and a 2030 #1 top 20 protected, that will probably be a 2nd.

[basketballwacko2]

I want to ask the GSW why in the world did they sign Poole to that heinous contract!?

[giberish]

I want to ask the GSW why in the world did they sign Poole to that heinous contract!?

He played a significant (quasi-starting and high-usage) role for a title team and had improved a lot over his first 3 years. They likely expected future improvement (certainly as opposed to the regression that actually happened). I wanted a Poole/Quickly deal that summer (GS probably could have gotten extra incentive at the time as well) but oh well.

[basketballwacko2]

I want to ask the GSW why in the world did they sign Poole to that heinous contract!?

He played a significant (quasi-starting and high-usage) role for a title team and had improved a lot over his first 3 years. They likely expected future improvement (certainly as opposed to the regression that actually happened). I wanted a Poole/Quickly deal that summer (GS probably could have gotten extra incentive at the time as well) but oh well.

Humm, well I always saw him as a poor man's Monte Ellis. His 3pt % peaked in 2021-22 at 36.4% and has dropped year over year. They have to consider themselves lucky to have found a team to take him for the small price they paid, and they got Chris Paul out of it. Now they might drop Paul to save some Luxury tax after this season. CP's 2024-25 salary is not guaranteed. Also I think if CP wants to play in 2024-25 he will find a team willing to sign him.

[Slava]

In still mad at them for bailing out golden state.

[NW]

Wiz are definitely in the Poole business for the foreseeable future and might as well try and make the most of it.

As a Warriors fan, one thing I’d suggest they do in the offseason is acquire Kevon Looney. Fellow Milwaukee native like Poole and they had a real big brother/little brother relationship in GS. Seems like Poole could use the calming presence again. Might not hurt for the Wiz to have it for the team overall either

[basketballwacko2]

Now WireTap is saying that Poole is pissed about being benched. I guess that's because he's such a star!

[penbeast0]

Well, he thinks so even if no one else does.

[daoneandonly]

Don't condone violence, is there any question now why Draymond Mike Tysoned this fool?

[basketballwacko2]

They have to pay him $29.65 million next yr and even more for 2 more years after that. I can see him getting bought out if his play and attitude continue. I don't think I would buy him out, better to just bring him off the bench against all the other teams 2nd unit, maybe it will make him look better. Maybe buy out the last year when that time comes.

[jayjaysee]

They have to pay him $29.65 million next yr and even more for 2 more years after that. I can see him getting bought out if his play and attitude continue. I don't think I would buy him out, better to just bring him off the bench against all the other teams 2nd unit, maybe it will make him look better. Maybe buy out the last year when that time comes.

I think in the summer of 2026 when Poole is finally about to start his last year of his contract.. Washington will feel confident in their Deni/Bailey/Bilal/Topic young core and long ball ideology.. they’ll be adding to the young core using Poole’s expiring as the filler.

[zimpy27]

It was a miracle that GSW were able to trade him for so cheap..

Wizards made an obviously bad decision last offseason and they are stuck with it