Official Ochai Agbaji Thread - Welcome to Toronto, Ochai!

[DreamTeam09]

Is Danny Green a good comp?

Maybe I can't shake the Kansas connection, but offensively he reminds me of Ben McLemore. Capable shooter, good athlete in transition, lob threat in halfcourt, limited handle.

Good comp, first name that came to my mind was Lu Dort.

[Duffman100]

Is Danny Green a good comp?

Maybe I can't shake the Kansas connection, but offensively he reminds me of Ben McLemore. Capable shooter, good athlete in transition, lob threat in halfcourt, limited handle.

Hopefully smarter than McLemore.

[WuTang_CMB]

I'm really intrigued by this acquisition and I'm excited to see him play for us tonight. I don't think he'll reach OG's level of 3+D because OG's defensive versatility is unmatched, but I have a feeling we may have found a damn good replacement and I wouldn't be surprised if he was starting within a few weeks.

Hopefully he's a "I don't need the ball to be effective".

What I like is how much more explosive and athletic we've become in a short time. Barrett, Quickley, Nwora and Ochai have upped our burst and athleticism.

And BBIQ. This team is way smarter by even going younger

[ItsDanger]

He has to embrace the 3&D role, don't try and turn him into something he just isn't.

[ArthurVandelay]

This man deserves a bump.

His on-ball D is absolutely incredible, better than OG at POA.

His whole career will be based on can he hit a 3 consistently. If he can, he’s going to make a lot of money.

[Duffman100]

I think there is untapped offensive potential

[execoftheyear]

This man deserves a bump.

His on-ball D is absolutely incredible, better than OG at POA.

His whole career will be based on can he hit a 3 consistently. If he can, he’s going to make a lot of money.

let's not get carried away now. OG's been consistently matched up against the NBA's elite offensive players. Ochai does have potential to be a great POA defender but he lacks OG's size. I see him more as a Norman Powell/Danny Green type if we're comparing him to former
Raptors.

[YogurtProducer]

This man deserves a bump.

His on-ball D is absolutely incredible, better than OG at POA.

His whole career will be based on can he hit a 3 consistently. If he can, he’s going to make a lot of money.

let's not get carried away now. OG's been consistently matched up against the NBA's elite offensive players. Ochai does have potential to be a great POA defender but he lacks OG's size. I see him more as a Norman Powell/Danny Green type if we're comparing him to former
Raptors.

Norman Powell / Danny Green really could not be any different.

One is a all-defense level player who did nothing offensively on offense but hit threes.
The other was a bad defender (which is why he is never a starter despite crazy efficiency) who is a more well rounded offensive player in terms of shooting + slashing.

Neither are great comps for him. Ochai is a great defender with no offensive game. A smaller OG is a better comp as they have the same strengths / weaknesses.

Ochai is shooting 43% from the corners, 24% from above the break
OG this year is shooting 44% from the corners, 31% from above the break
As a rook, OG shot 44$ and 28% respectively

So really I think if we can get Ochai to pretty much only take corner 3's and work in the gym to increase his range, we could have a steal here.

[ArthurVandelay]

This man deserves a bump.

His on-ball D is absolutely incredible, better than OG at POA.

His whole career will be based on can he hit a 3 consistently. If he can, he’s going to make a lot of money.

let's not get carried away now. OG's been consistently matched up against the NBA's elite offensive players. Ochai does have potential to be a great POA defender but he lacks OG's size. I see him more as a Norman Powell/Danny Green type if we're comparing him to former
Raptors.

I’m not getting carried away. His POA D is incredible and we’ve seen it over multiple games. Agbaji was the difference maker in the 4th Q last night. He single-handedly shut down Murray when Murray started to go off!in the 4th.

OG is a better defensive player overall but he isn’t nearly as fast or agile as Agbaji which gives Agbaji the edge at POA.

[Dennis 37]

I don't get this deal for Utah.

Otto isn't playing, and won't play so his value to the trade was nothing but filler.

Is Kira Lewis Jr plus the 28th to 30th pick in the draft really worth Kelly and Ochai?

[TeamDisgruntled]

This man deserves a bump.

His on-ball D is absolutely incredible, better than OG at POA.

His whole career will be based on can he hit a 3 consistently. If he can, he’s going to make a lot of money.

let's not get carried away now. OG's been consistently matched up against the NBA's elite offensive players. Ochai does have potential to be a great POA defender but he lacks OG's size. I see him more as a Norman Powell/Danny Green type if we're comparing him to former
Raptors.

Norman Powell / Danny Green really could not be any different.

One is a all-defense level player who did nothing offensively on offense but hit threes.
The other was a bad defender (which is why he is never a starter despite crazy efficiency) who is a more well rounded offensive player in terms of shooting + slashing.

Neither are great comps for him. Ochai is a great defender with no offensive game. A smaller OG is a better comp as they have the same strengths / weaknesses.

Ochai is shooting 43% from the corners, 24% from above the break
OG this year is shooting 44% from the corners, 31% from above the break
As a rook, OG shot 44$ and 28% respectively

So really I think if we can get Ochai to pretty much only take corner 3's and work in the gym to increase his range, we could have a steal here.

I made a really similar post in the original trade thread, they are obviously different in size and stature but their games are very, very similar. He’s not gonna be able to stop big 4s like OG could but outside of that, he’s a great replacement.

[YogurtProducer]

let's not get carried away now. OG's been consistently matched up against the NBA's elite offensive players. Ochai does have potential to be a great POA defender but he lacks OG's size. I see him more as a Norman Powell/Danny Green type if we're comparing him to former
Raptors.

Norman Powell / Danny Green really could not be any different.

One is a all-defense level player who did nothing offensively on offense but hit threes.
The other was a bad defender (which is why he is never a starter despite crazy efficiency) who is a more well rounded offensive player in terms of shooting + slashing.

Neither are great comps for him. Ochai is a great defender with no offensive game. A smaller OG is a better comp as they have the same strengths / weaknesses.

Ochai is shooting 43% from the corners, 24% from above the break
OG this year is shooting 44% from the corners, 31% from above the break
As a rook, OG shot 44$ and 28% respectively

So really I think if we can get Ochai to pretty much only take corner 3's and work in the gym to increase his range, we could have a steal here.

I made a really similar post in the original trade thread, they are obviously different in size and stature but their games are very, very similar. He’s not gonna be able to stop big 4s like OG could but outside of that, he’s a great replacement.

Ochai definitely won't have the positional versatility, but he could end up being a very good POA type guy.

[WuTang_CMB]

I don't get this deal for Utah.

Otto isn't playing, and won't play so his value to the trade was nothing but filler.

Is Kira Lewis Jr plus the 28th to 30th pick in the draft really worth Kelly and Ochai?

I didn't understand it either. Utah was also playing so well of late. Ainge's reasoning was to tank rest of year and keep his pick (top 10 protected)

[mg]

I don't get this deal for Utah.

Otto isn't playing, and won't play so his value to the trade was nothing but filler.

Is Kira Lewis Jr plus the 28th to 30th pick in the draft really worth Kelly and Ochai?

Ainge gets a ton of credit for his big heists but his smaller deals are usually nothing to write home about. I don't believe they were going to be able to re-sign Kelly with Markkanen due for a huge extension, and needed to find minutes for their draftees that were wasting away in the G League (Hendricks and Sensabaugh). I think they also want to keep their draft pick this year as it potentially goes to OKC but is top 10 protected. They are currently sitting in the 11-12 range so I'm assuming they will try to land around 9 and keep their pick. OKC is already loaded with way more talent than Utah so the last thing they want to do is hand over a #11/12 pick to the Thunder, even in a weak draft.

[Ackshun]

I don't get this deal for Utah.

Otto isn't playing, and won't play so his value to the trade was nothing but filler.

Is Kira Lewis Jr plus the 28th to 30th pick in the draft really worth Kelly and Ochai?

Yeah it's tough to say. I'd guess a combination of things; free up some cash (3-4M I think) for the upcoming Lauri extension while gaining another 2 years of control of another draftee prospect.

Olynk was expiring. I'd bet Porter & Kira are not in Utah next year either. Basically just swapped a bunch of expiring and our late 1st for Ochai.

Unlesss I'm missing something (I usually miss something)

[mg]

Gotta keep in mind that Ainge did not draft Agbaji so was less attached to him than most GM's to a 2nd year player. Ochai was just another "asset" that he acquired in the Mitchell trade to be flipped at a later date.

Obviously Masai had identified him as a player he'd like to develop on the Raps.

[ArthurVandelay]

I don't get this deal for Utah.

Otto isn't playing, and won't play so his value to the trade was nothing but filler.

Is Kira Lewis Jr plus the 28th to 30th pick in the draft really worth Kelly and Ochai?

Yeah it's tough to say. I'd guess a combination of things; free up some cash (3-4M I think) for the upcoming Lauri extension while gaining another 2 years of control of another draftee prospect.

Olynk was expiring. I'd bet Porter & Kira are not in Utah next year either. Basically just swapped a bunch of expiring and our late 1st for Ochai.

Unlesss I'm missing something (I usually miss something)

I don’t think you’re missing something but I’d add this…

Raptors will be operating as an above the Cap team. KO is a player they likely would have had internet in but would have been limited to MLE to sign him. By acquiring his Bird Rights, they get to keep him and use the full MLE elsewhere.

[Asif16]

3 & D player needs to be his focus. Elite D and knock down your open 3s.

He can have a legit role in the NBA if he works on those 2 aspects. I dont foresee him doing much on the offensive end besides that

[UnbelievablyRAW]

If they can lock him in whatever hyperbolic time chamber they put Gradey in to improve his shooting and skill that would be great.

He is sneaky athletic so if he can get that shot to drop that will open up a lot

[Tha Cynic]

This guy is my new favourite prospect. The way he played defense last game was beautiful to watch. He brings a dimension this team does not have. Hopefully he focuses on defense and corner 3s and then expands his game like OG did