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Post#1441 » by JMAC3 » Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:14 pm

Watching prospect game highlights you really realize that 80% of assists in basketball today are just bs where the passer does nothing.

It makes no sense how you can swing the ball on the perimeter, a guy pump fakes, dribbles three times and does a euro for a layup 20 feet from where he received the ball and it is an assist, but if I pass it to the center for point blank layup and he gets fouled and makes 2 fts it's not an assist

Seriously, half the time I watch back to back plays where the highlight player doesn't even feel involved and I am just watching someone else get buckets lol
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1442 » by Johnny Firpo » Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:03 pm

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HadAnEffectHere wrote:Buzelis absolutely sucks and would be a fringe first if he wasn't white.

:crazy:


He has no path to NBA success unless he's a high level shooter and he's not.


Pretty sure the "crazy" emote was for you implying that being white is an advantage in the draft, which is a ridiculous statement. If anything, it's a major handicap.
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Post#1443 » by HadAnEffectHere » Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:17 pm

Johnny Firpo wrote:
HadAnEffectHere wrote:
Hal14 wrote: :crazy:


He has no path to NBA success unless he's a high level shooter and he's not.


Pretty sure the "crazy" emote was for you implying that being white is an advantage in the draft, which is a ridiculous statement. If anything, it's a major handicap.


Hey I doubt it!

Matas' percentages are total trash and his shot looks like trash too, it's not at all clear why he keeps being profiled as a shooter except for his skin color. Maybe he should try making jumpshots to prove me wrong.
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Post#1444 » by FarBeyondDriven » Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:35 am

HadAnEffectHere wrote:
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HadAnEffectHere wrote:
He has no path to NBA success unless he's a high level shooter and he's not.


Pretty sure the "crazy" emote was for you implying that being white is an advantage in the draft, which is a ridiculous statement. If anything, it's a major handicap.


Hey I doubt it!

Matas' percentages are total trash and his shot looks like trash too, it's not at all clear why he keeps being profiled as a shooter except for his skin color. Maybe he should try making jumpshots to prove me wrong.


it's hard but I think people should ignore shooting in the G-League. There are many factors that contribute to guys having poor efficiency there. His form does not look like trash to me. It's actually pretty good imo and he's flashed plenty shooting the ball well this season. Just the fact that he's an athletic 6'9" wing is going to intrigue scouts. Him and Cody Williams are similar prospects in that both can do a little bit of everything, have similar size and athleticism with intriguing upside. There's enough there to get drafted in or near the lottery. Like many of the lottery talents they're a little more raw than you'd like to see and it might take an extra year to develop but they do have upside similar to past lottery prospects.
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Post#1445 » by HadAnEffectHere » Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:27 pm

Man, if Flip could actually shoot, he would be a really good prospect (probably #1?)

But his early season 3P%s were fake so.
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Post#1446 » by HadAnEffectHere » Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:39 pm

Virginia has 6 total points 14 minutes in this game.

If you draft Ryan Dunn, you're basically asking to be bottom 5 in offense.
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Post#1447 » by Chuck Everett » Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:20 am

Collier's body language is horrible and he looks fat. He might need to fall into the 2nd round to fix his attitude.
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Post#1448 » by azcatz11 » Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:46 am

Chuck Everett wrote:Collier's body language is horrible and he looks fat. He might need to fall into the 2nd round to fix his attitude.


He’s a weird player. Nice game from him tonight I guess.

How bad is uclas offense though? That was tough to watch man. What a train wreck
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Post#1449 » by clyde21 » Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:25 am

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Chuck Everett wrote:Collier's body language is horrible and he looks fat. He might need to fall into the 2nd round to fix his attitude.


He’s a weird player. Nice game from him tonight I guess.

How bad is uclas offense though? That was tough to watch man. What a train wreck


Aday Mara, their highest ranked recruit, has been a dud pretty much

Dylan Andrews hasn't really progressed in his 2nd year

Sebastian Mack can be good sometimes but still too inefficient

Adem Bona is probably their best prospect at this point at least from an athletic standpoint but he himself is limited in a lot of aspects
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Post#1450 » by shangrila » Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:40 am

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azcatz11 wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:Collier's body language is horrible and he looks fat. He might need to fall into the 2nd round to fix his attitude.


He’s a weird player. Nice game from him tonight I guess.

How bad is uclas offense though? That was tough to watch man. What a train wreck


Aday Mara, their highest ranked recruit, has been a dud pretty much

Dylan Andrews hasn't really progressed in his 2nd year

Sebastian Mack can be good sometimes but still too inefficient

Adem Bona is probably their best prospect at this point at least from an athletic standpoint but he himself is limited in a lot of aspects

Yeah, Bona is playing way outside his skillset at the moment. He's not someone that anyone expected to be creating offence for himself and yet he's routinely forced into it with predictably bad results.

Unless their coach goes either Bona needs to declare for the draft or go to the transfer portal. There's nothing of benefit for him at UCLA.
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Post#1451 » by Chuck Everett » Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:41 am

azcatz11 wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:Collier's body language is horrible and he looks fat. He might need to fall into the 2nd round to fix his attitude.


He’s a weird player. Nice game from him tonight I guess.

How bad is uclas offense though? That was tough to watch man. What a train wreck


Cronin can't coach offense, but he has seemed to alienate the HS coaches. Well, Los Angeles has a lot of talent, but if you're not going to showcase them, then you can forget about it. Peyton Watson turning into a two-way stud for Denver is a huge indictment on Mick. Amari Bailey probably made a bad decision to declare, but then again, this UCLA roster is a trainwreck, so he might have looked much worse. If Bona didn't have the shoulder injury, I don't think he plays a second year either. He will look better as a pro, I think, once they find a role for him as a small ball 5/backup/dunker's spot big.
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Post#1452 » by BigGargamel » Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:15 pm

Well I'll be damned, Justin Edwards actually did something. 10-10 from the field for 28 points.
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Post#1453 » by BigGargamel » Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:22 pm

FarBeyondDriven wrote:I hope this is the last year we'll ever have to deal with a dozen guys simultaneously tanking their draft stocks by choosing one of two schools, Kentucky or Duke. Duke returned 4 out of 5 starters and only Mgbako was smart enough to transfer. Kentucky has 8-10 guys who will all play in the league yet they've now just lost their 8th game and several of their NBA prospects barely see the floor and to top it all off they don't seem bothered by it at all. Where's the killer instinct? The pride? I see Bradshaw and Ivisic laughing on the sideline while Onyenso is taking their minutes. So funny guys. Do they not think scouts are watching? They're off my board. Sheppard and Dillingham have to watch Wagner start over them every game and stink up the joint and they seem perfectly fine with it. NIL was a huge mistake if NBA talents are wasting away on benches and kids are okay with it.


Next year at least, it looks like the talent is spread out a lot more, thankfully. Other then Duke loading up again, of course.

Duke - Cooper Flagg, Isaiah Evans, Kon Knueppel, Patrick Ngongba
Rutgers - Ace Bailey, Dylan Harper
Kentucky - Jayden Quaintance, Billy Richmond
North Carolina - Ian Jackson, Drake Powell
Baylor - VJ Edgecombe
Texas - Tre Johnson
Miami - Jalil Bethea
Kansas - Flory Bidunga
Maryland - Derik Queen
Georgia - Asa Newell
Alabama - Derrion Reid
Indiana - liam McNeeley
Arizona - Carter Bryant
Syracuse - Donnie Freeman
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Post#1454 » by Chuck Everett » Sun Feb 25, 2024 9:46 pm

UAB has two interesting guys to me in Yaxel Lendeborg and Eric Gaines. I'm not sure if they're anything but cup of coffee guys just yet, but then again Trey Jemison is now a member of the Grizzlies after some good minutes in the G-League. Andy Kennedy is an underrated recruiter.
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Post#1455 » by BlazersBroncos » Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:05 am

Ivisic again producing whenever he gets minutes -

20min, 18pts, 7-11FG, 1-3 3PT, 3-3FT, 5RB, 4BLK
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Post#1456 » by clyde21 » Mon Feb 26, 2024 1:48 am

this year especially was just absolutely wild how these dudes all went to the same 3 places (Duke, Kentucky or GLI).

Mgbako at least had the balls to get out of Duke. look at what happened to TJ Power and Sean Stewart. Power can't even crack 7mpg and Stewart is barely at 7mpg. now they have no choice but to return to Duke, and next year compete with the shiny new class of recruits or just transfer and possibly get forgotten about.
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Post#1457 » by peZt » Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:57 am

BlazersBroncos wrote:Ivisic again producing whenever he gets minutes -

20min, 18pts, 7-11FG, 1-3 3PT, 3-3FT, 5RB, 4BLK


Its an absolute crime he gets multiple 2 minutes played the last month
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Post#1458 » by The-Power » Mon Feb 26, 2024 12:06 pm

peZt wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:Ivisic again producing whenever he gets minutes -

20min, 18pts, 7-11FG, 1-3 3PT, 3-3FT, 5RB, 4BLK


Its an absolute crime he gets multiple 2 minutes played the last month

Part of me understands it. He's getting pushed around with ease (especially on rebounds), he's not able to defend in space, and he's often quite clueless on the court. His motor isn't the greatest either, in particular for someone who's fighting for every minute. He's clearly not a winning player right now.

That being said, neither is Bradshaw and Ivisic is undoubtedly more talented. It's just difficult to find minutes on this uber-talented Kentucky team. Ivisic is getting the short end of the stick and is being pulled too soon at times, there should be some more minutes for him – but I fully understand why his minutes are generally limited.

He might want to consider returning next year (either with Kentucky or somewhere else). He'd be toast in the NBA right now and the grace period afforded to Rookies doesn't last long and it's especially easy to wash out of the NBA if you're not picked very high (which I doubt he would right now).
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Post#1459 » by Chuck Everett » Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:52 pm

All it takes is for one team to see potential in Ivisic. I mean if you're one of these squads with multiple picks, you might want him to declare because next year he will go much higher and be way out of your range. Guy has size and some interesting tools.
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Post#1460 » by JMAC3 » Mon Feb 26, 2024 3:20 pm

Did Alabama try at all on defense this weekend? Seems like everyone on UK had an easy good game and scored 117 pts lol

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