Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24

[Bill Lumbergh]

Sign this man already and be done with it. I want him on our team next year. I don't think you can find a developmental big much better than him. Why let someone poach him in the summer?

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[Parliament10]

Why not promote Queta and see if Poku will sign a 2 way?

Because that would result in Poku being a part of the team in some way.

I see where you stand on it. Haha.

I'm not sure if Poku can take a Two-Way? (Drafted in 2020)
If so, it would just be for the Remainder of the Season.


In any event, Two-Ways have to be signed by March 4th (Next Monday).

[Gant]

Sign this man already and be done with it. I want him on our team next year. I don't think you can find a developmental big much better than him. Why let someone poach him in the summer?

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Queta looked like G league Wilt today.

[Gant]

The Maine broadcasters speculated several times about Queta's immediate future. They seemed to think that the Celtics haven't decided yet. They were salivating at the thought of Queta getting a run with Maine the rest of the way. (me: Maine goes from G league mediocre to contender with the big guy playing.)

In the interview after the game Queta said the playing time in Maine does help him develop, and added that he goes all out no matter where he's playing or for how long.

[165bows]

Sign this man already and be done with it. I want him on our team next year. I don't think you can find a developmental big much better than him. Why let someone poach him in the summer?

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Queta looked like G league Wilt today.

Great to hear, interesting to see what happens with him. I feel like they should at minimum sign Queta and JD to long term minimum deals to at least recoup their values in trade. Ie, get a second back for them and bring in a bench vey that fits better, something along those lines.

Or if they are valuable contributors, that’s great too.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Sign this man already and be done with it. I want him on our team next year. I don't think you can find a developmental big much better than him. Why let someone poach him in the summer?

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Queta looked like G league Wilt today.

Great to hear, interesting to see what happens with him. I feel like they should at minimum sign Queta and JD to long term minimum deals to at least recoup their values in trade. Ie, get a second back for them and bring in a bench vey that fits better, something along those lines.

Or if they are valuable contributors, that’s great too.

To my eye, it seems Queta is an obvious NBA quality player, and has proven that already. I'm just not sold at all on JD though, so I'd pass on him.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Sign this man already and be done with it. I want him on our team next year. I don't think you can find a developmental big much better than him. Why let someone poach him in the summer?

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If the Celtics don't convert Queta's contract, he is a RFA this summer so he's not going to walk for nothing anyway.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Sign this man already and be done with it. I want him on our team next year. I don't think you can find a developmental big much better than him. Why let someone poach him in the summer?

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If the Celtics don't convert Queta's contract, he is a RFA this summer so he's not going to walk for nothing anyway.

There is the possibility that you could get him for cheaper now and avoid needing to match whatever someone else would offer him this summer. Not trying to imply anyone will offer him anything crazy, but rather that I suspect he could be signed for less now, and that it would be wise to do so. Makes sense if they want to keep him around. Maybe they don't anymore, since they brought on Tillman.

[celtxman]

I can only imagine the Celtics are going to exhaust the buyout process before signing Queta, for flexibility options. It's hard to think they won't sign him otherwise.

[Hal14]

FWIW, here's what Brad did during his first 2 seasons as POBO when he needed to fill the last roster spot after the trade deadline:

21-22 season:
-converted Hauser's 2-way (he's still with the team 2 yrs later)
-Signed Kornet off the Maine Celtics (he's still with the team 2 yrs later)
-Signed Juwan Morgan off the Maine Celtics to 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (then traded him in offseason for Brogdon
-Signed Nik Stauskus out of the G League 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (then traded him in offseason for Brogdon
-Signed Malik Fitts out of the G League to 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (then traded him in offseason for Brogdon

22-23 season:
-Signed Justin Champagnie out of the G league to 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (he was then waived prior to the 23-24 season training camp)

Based on that track record, (and the fact that we already have like 12 guys on the roster who *could* contribute in the playoffs), I'm gonna say that Brad is probably not gonna sign a vet like OPJ or Danuel House to fill the 15th spot.

It would seem like he's either gonna convert Queta, Davison or Peterson...or he's gonna sign a guy out of the G league (either a guy who's on the Maine roster or a guy who's in the G league but is not on a 2-way with another team currently (like how we acquired Champagnie, Fitts, Stauskus)

There's not really anyone good that I'm aware of who's available in the G league (on another team or on Maine). But as I've said before, when you look at the guys in the G league or on a 2-way, Queta is probably as good as any big, Peterson is probably as good as any wing and JD is probably as good as any PG.

So the most likely scenario is probably 1 of them getting converted. Or *maybe* Wieskamp (if he is *really* killing it for Maine and impressing in workouts for our front office guys/gal) gets signed..

Between Queta/Peterson/Wieskamp/JD, you would think it'd be Queta since he is the only 1 of the 4 who has played meaningful NBA mins this season..and he's played way more NBA mins this season than the others. You'd think Wieskamp has the lowest odds, since he is just on the Maine team and not even on a 2-way..

I just don't know if we need another big on the standard roster (with KP, Al, Tillman and Kornet all healthy) and as others have said, signing Queta now (rather than this summer) limits our options for the length of contract we could offer him..

Whoever we sign, if it's a 2-way guy or a guy scooped out of G league, I figure it'll be a 2-year deal with 2nd year being non-guaranteed so we can trade the player (probably along with our 2024 1st round pick) for something of value this summer - or waive him if we're not able to do so (like Champagnie).

Watch, now Brad is gonna read this and sign a buyout vet, just to prove me wrong lol.

[snowman]

FWIW, here's what Brad did during his first 2 seasons as POBO when he needed to fill the last roster spot after the trade deadline:

21-22 season:
-converted Hauser's 2-way (he's still with the team 2 yrs later)
-Signed Kornet off the Maine Celtics (he's still with the team 2 yrs later)
-Signed Juwan Morgan off the Maine Celtics to 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (then traded him in offseason for Brogdon
-Signed Nik Stauskus out of the G League 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (then traded him in offseason for Brogdon
-Signed Malik Fitts out of the G League to 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (then traded him in offseason for Brogdon

22-23 season:
-Signed Justin Champagnie out of the G league to 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (he was then waived prior to the 23-24 season training camp)

Based on that track record, (and the fact that we already have like 12 guys on the roster who *could* contribute in the playoffs), I'm gonna say that Brad is probably not gonna sign a vet like OPJ or Danuel House to fill the 15th spot.

It would seem like he's either gonna convert Queta, Davison or Peterson...or he's gonna sign a guy out of the G league (either a guy who's on the Maine roster or a guy who's in the G league but is not on a 2-way with another team currently (like how we acquired Champagnie, Fitts, Stauskus)

There's not really anyone good that I'm aware of who's available in the G league (on another team or on Maine). But as I've said before, when you look at the guys in the G league or on a 2-way, Queta is probably as good as any big, Peterson is probably as good as any wing and JD is probably as good as any PG.

So the most likely scenario is probably 1 of them getting converted. Or *maybe* Wieskamp (if he is *really* killing it for Maine and impressing in workouts for our front office guys/gal) gets signed..

Between Queta/Peterson/Wieskamp/JD, you would think it'd be Queta since he is the only 1 of the 4 who has played meaningful NBA mins this season..and he's played way more NBA mins this season than the others. You'd think Wieskamp has the lowest odds, since he is just on the Maine team and not even on a 2-way..

I just don't know if we need another big on the standard roster (with KP, Al, Tillman and Kornet all healthy) and as others have said, signing Queta now (rather than this summer) limits our options for the length of contract we could offer him..

Whoever we sign, if it's a 2-way guy or a guy scooped out of G league, I figure it'll be a 2-year deal with 2nd year being non-guaranteed so we can trade the player (probably along with our 2024 1st round pick) for something of value this summer - or waive him if we're not able to do so (like Champagnie).

Watch, now Brad is gonna read this and sign a buyout vet, just to prove me wrong lol.

Correct me if I'm wrong but couldn't Brad sign Queta to a 2-year deal, team option for 2nd year. Then, this summer void that deal and sign him for a four-year deal similar to what Hauser signed. Is this legal, and wouldn't that open up any contract we wanted to sign him to this summer?

[Hal14]

FWIW, here's what Brad did during his first 2 seasons as POBO when he needed to fill the last roster spot after the trade deadline:

21-22 season:
-converted Hauser's 2-way (he's still with the team 2 yrs later)
-Signed Kornet off the Maine Celtics (he's still with the team 2 yrs later)
-Signed Juwan Morgan off the Maine Celtics to 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (then traded him in offseason for Brogdon
-Signed Nik Stauskus out of the G League 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (then traded him in offseason for Brogdon
-Signed Malik Fitts out of the G League to 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (then traded him in offseason for Brogdon

22-23 season:
-Signed Justin Champagnie out of the G league to 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (he was then waived prior to the 23-24 season training camp)

Based on that track record, (and the fact that we already have like 12 guys on the roster who *could* contribute in the playoffs), I'm gonna say that Brad is probably not gonna sign a vet like OPJ or Danuel House to fill the 15th spot.

It would seem like he's either gonna convert Queta, Davison or Peterson...or he's gonna sign a guy out of the G league (either a guy who's on the Maine roster or a guy who's in the G league but is not on a 2-way with another team currently (like how we acquired Champagnie, Fitts, Stauskus)

There's not really anyone good that I'm aware of who's available in the G league (on another team or on Maine). But as I've said before, when you look at the guys in the G league or on a 2-way, Queta is probably as good as any big, Peterson is probably as good as any wing and JD is probably as good as any PG.

So the most likely scenario is probably 1 of them getting converted. Or *maybe* Wieskamp (if he is *really* killing it for Maine and impressing in workouts for our front office guys/gal) gets signed..

Between Queta/Peterson/Wieskamp/JD, you would think it'd be Queta since he is the only 1 of the 4 who has played meaningful NBA mins this season..and he's played way more NBA mins this season than the others. You'd think Wieskamp has the lowest odds, since he is just on the Maine team and not even on a 2-way..

I just don't know if we need another big on the standard roster (with KP, Al, Tillman and Kornet all healthy) and as others have said, signing Queta now (rather than this summer) limits our options for the length of contract we could offer him..

Whoever we sign, if it's a 2-way guy or a guy scooped out of G league, I figure it'll be a 2-year deal with 2nd year being non-guaranteed so we can trade the player (probably along with our 2024 1st round pick) for something of value this summer - or waive him if we're not able to do so (like Champagnie).

Watch, now Brad is gonna read this and sign a buyout vet, just to prove me wrong lol.

Correct me if I'm wrong but couldn't Brad sign Queta to a 2-year deal, team option for 2nd year. Then, this summer void that deal and sign him for a four-year deal similar to what Hauser signed. Is this legal, and wouldn't that open up any contract we wanted to sign him to this summer?

I don't think you can do that (I could be wrong) but I also doubt anyone would give a 4 year contract to a 24 yr old guy who's already been in the league for 3 years but is only the 5th best center on the team and was playing in G league games after the all-star break.

I could see us giving Queta like a 2 year, non-guaranteed year for 24-25 and then maybe trading him in the offseason or keeping him around if we're not able to resign Kornet and/or Tillman.

With that being said, it could *maybe* piss off Kornet/Tillman for Queta to get signed for next season before they do..since Kornet/Tillman are obviously ahead of Queta on the depth chart..

[snowman]

FWIW, here's what Brad did during his first 2 seasons as POBO when he needed to fill the last roster spot after the trade deadline:

21-22 season:
-converted Hauser's 2-way (he's still with the team 2 yrs later)
-Signed Kornet off the Maine Celtics (he's still with the team 2 yrs later)
-Signed Juwan Morgan off the Maine Celtics to 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (then traded him in offseason for Brogdon
-Signed Nik Stauskus out of the G League 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (then traded him in offseason for Brogdon
-Signed Malik Fitts out of the G League to 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (then traded him in offseason for Brogdon

22-23 season:
-Signed Justin Champagnie out of the G league to 2 year standard contract, with 2nd year non-guaranteed (he was then waived prior to the 23-24 season training camp)

Based on that track record, (and the fact that we already have like 12 guys on the roster who *could* contribute in the playoffs), I'm gonna say that Brad is probably not gonna sign a vet like OPJ or Danuel House to fill the 15th spot.

It would seem like he's either gonna convert Queta, Davison or Peterson...or he's gonna sign a guy out of the G league (either a guy who's on the Maine roster or a guy who's in the G league but is not on a 2-way with another team currently (like how we acquired Champagnie, Fitts, Stauskus)

There's not really anyone good that I'm aware of who's available in the G league (on another team or on Maine). But as I've said before, when you look at the guys in the G league or on a 2-way, Queta is probably as good as any big, Peterson is probably as good as any wing and JD is probably as good as any PG.

So the most likely scenario is probably 1 of them getting converted. Or *maybe* Wieskamp (if he is *really* killing it for Maine and impressing in workouts for our front office guys/gal) gets signed..

Between Queta/Peterson/Wieskamp/JD, you would think it'd be Queta since he is the only 1 of the 4 who has played meaningful NBA mins this season..and he's played way more NBA mins this season than the others. You'd think Wieskamp has the lowest odds, since he is just on the Maine team and not even on a 2-way..

I just don't know if we need another big on the standard roster (with KP, Al, Tillman and Kornet all healthy) and as others have said, signing Queta now (rather than this summer) limits our options for the length of contract we could offer him..

Whoever we sign, if it's a 2-way guy or a guy scooped out of G league, I figure it'll be a 2-year deal with 2nd year being non-guaranteed so we can trade the player (probably along with our 2024 1st round pick) for something of value this summer - or waive him if we're not able to do so (like Champagnie).

Watch, now Brad is gonna read this and sign a buyout vet, just to prove me wrong lol.

Correct me if I'm wrong but couldn't Brad sign Queta to a 2-year deal, team option for 2nd year. Then, this summer void that deal and sign him for a four-year deal similar to what Hauser signed. Is this legal, and wouldn't that open up any contract we wanted to sign him to this summer?

I don't think you can do that (I could be wrong) but I also doubt anyone would give a 4 year contract to a 24 yr old guy who's already been in the league for 3 years but is only the 5th best center on the team and was playing in G league games after the all-star break.

I'm talking about a four-year deal at the minimum salary for the first year, and team options for the other three years all at minimum increases. This would lock him for us and cap the expense at the minimum, no risk for us, but also punch his ticket to the big leagues.

[Curmudgeon]

Will Queta agree to what Hauser got? He may be looking for more money, and frankly I think he'll get it this Summer.
Will the Celtics match? That may depend on Tillman's health and how well Tillman plays.

[Gant]

Horford will be 38 before the playoffs are over. Looking forward- Porzingis needs rest, Tillman is short, and Kornet is no wide body. Take Horford out and that rotation at the 5 is pretty vulnerable. The Celtics do need another center, particularly a powerful mobile big man with some height.

It's the 14th spot on the roster (Svi is 15th for future flexibility). With CBA restrictions they won't find anyone better than Queta. They don't have to sign him immediately, but they probably will at some point. Queta impacts the game and almost surely is not done growing as a player. He has a fairly soft touch which has been more evident in G league games, so it wouldn't be a surprise for him to extend his offensive package.

It's not a signing for now, it's a signing for Horford insurance a little ways down the road.

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[Dogen]

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If Blake has been staying in shape, recovering from his injuries, and still working on his game, a signing by March 1 would allow him a couple months to get back into some sort of flow. I'm not really that high on the prospect of bringing him back but it would be a cool story and seems like the team would be into it.

He wouldn't play much, but another big that can pass and shoot is not a bad thing. He fits in with Kornet or Horford and maybe Tillman, and knows the system.

I suppose that means no regular contract for Queta, unless Svi is let go?

Either way, Blake or Queta, or someone else, doesn't move the needle much, but it would be cool to see Griffin get a shot at a ring. He was a good presence when he was here, and if he can give a few minutes that's like gravy for this team.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Horford will be 38 before the playoffs are over. Looking forward- Porzingis needs rest, Tillman is short, and Kornet is no wide body. Take Horford out and that rotation at the 5 is pretty vulnerable. The Celtics do need another center, particularly a powerful mobile big man with some height.

It's the 14th spot on the roster (Svi is 15th for future flexibility). With CBA restrictions they won't find anyone better than Queta. They don't have to sign him immediately, but they probably will at some point. Queta impacts the game and almost surely is not done growing as a player. He has a fairly soft touch which has been more evident in G league games, so it wouldn't be a surprise for him to extend his offensive package.

It's not a signing for now, it's a signing for Horford insurance a little ways down the road.

Hits the nail square on the head. Exactly right.

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If Blake has been staying in shape, recovering from his injuries, and still working on his game, a signing by March 1 would allow him a couple months to get back into some sort of flow. I'm not really that high on the prospect of bringing him back but it would be a cool story and seems like the team would be into it.

He wouldn't play much, but another big that can pass and shoot is not a bad thing. He fits in with Kornet or Horford and maybe Tillman, and knows the system.

I suppose that means no regular contract for Queta, unless Svi is let go?

Either way, Blake or Queta, or someone else, doesn't move the needle much, but it would be cool to see Griffin get a shot at a ring. He was a good presence when he was here, and if he can give a few minutes that's like gravy for this team.

Agree on all counts, easy part is that since he isn't on an NBA roster he can be signed at any time. March 1 is just the deadline to be off another roster and still play in the playoffs for a new team.

[Dogen]

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If Blake has been staying in shape, recovering from his injuries, and still working on his game, a signing by March 1 would allow him a couple months to get back into some sort of flow. I'm not really that high on the prospect of bringing him back but it would be a cool story and seems like the team would be into it.

He wouldn't play much, but another big that can pass and shoot is not a bad thing. He fits in with Kornet or Horford and maybe Tillman, and knows the system.

I suppose that means no regular contract for Queta, unless Svi is let go?

Either way, Blake or Queta, or someone else, doesn't move the needle much, but it would be cool to see Griffin get a shot at a ring. He was a good presence when he was here, and if he can give a few minutes that's like gravy for this team.

Agree on all counts, easy part is that since he isn't on an NBA roster he can be signed at any time. March 1 is just the deadline to be off another roster and still play in the playoffs for a new team.

I didn't know that he can be added after March 1 and still be on playoff roster. That's awesome. Looks like Payton, Derrick, 165bows and Dogen are all onboard, now it's up to Brad and Blake (and his family).

The extra cool thing about March 1 is that it allows Brad to see what else happens. Cedi Osman is still my top choice, but if he doesn't become available by the deadline, then Blake or Queta can still be added.