Shams: Trae out a minimum of 4 weeks

[Scase]

Was Trae's finger hurting when they played Raps, like an ongoing injury? Or did he just hurt it since that game?

He hurt it during our game on a freak play on defense.

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This will probably kill the Hawks season. Yes, you can pull off a couple wins early on, but without Trae, Murray will get a lot of attention and he isn't the playmaker that Trae is. This also is not a good defensive team regardless of Trae who stinks, so I don't know how they get better by subtracting him out.

I think their issue is the 2 guard attempt, not that one is significantly worse or better than the other.

[Pointgod]

Was Trae's finger hurting when they played Raps, like an ongoing injury? Or did he just hurt it since that game?

He hurt it during our game on a freak play on defense.

Read on Twitter

This will probably kill the Hawks season. Yes, you can pull off a couple wins early on, but without Trae, Murray will get a lot of attention and he isn't the playmaker that Trae is. This also is not a good defensive team regardless of Trae who stinks, so I don't know how they get better by subtracting him out.

I think their issue is the 2 guard attempt, not that one is significantly worse or better than the other.

Yeah neither can play off the ball and defensively Murray has fallen off a cliff while Trae is constantly targeted. Theoretically it should work but it hasn’t been great in practice.

[Scase]

He hurt it during our game on a freak play on defense.

Read on Twitter

This will probably kill the Hawks season. Yes, you can pull off a couple wins early on, but without Trae, Murray will get a lot of attention and he isn't the playmaker that Trae is. This also is not a good defensive team regardless of Trae who stinks, so I don't know how they get better by subtracting him out.

I think their issue is the 2 guard attempt, not that one is significantly worse or better than the other.

Yeah neither can play off the ball and defensively Murray has fallen off a cliff while Trae is constantly targeted. Theoretically it should work but it hasn’t been great in practice.

Murrays defence is the craziest thing, I'm willing to chalk that up to ATL just being awful. OG didn't get magically better as a defender when he went to NYC, but he sure as hell looks like he did because the Knicks aren't as defensively inept as we are. I suspect the same with Murray, you go from a disciplined org like SAS, to the mess of the Hawks, that's gonna slip. Especially when you have to cover for arguably the worst defensive guard in the entire NBA.

[tecumseh18]

Was Trae's finger hurting when they played Raps, like an ongoing injury? Or did he just hurt it since that game?

He hurt it during our game on a freak play on defense.

Read on Twitter

This will probably kill the Hawks season. Yes, you can pull off a couple wins early on, but without Trae, Murray will get a lot of attention and he isn't the playmaker that Trae is. This also is not a good defensive team regardless of Trae who stinks, so I don't know how they get better by subtracting him out.

Speaking a paying customer, and normal human being, I hate to see star players get hurt. I never want my team to win that way. But it is reassuring to know we had the game well in hand by the time Trae got injured. That wasn't as "fake" a win as the win over the Pacers (on the B2B) last night. Or the upcoming wins over the Mavs and Warriors, both of whom are on road B2Bs.

[Pointgod]

I think their issue is the 2 guard attempt, not that one is significantly worse or better than the other.

Yeah neither can play off the ball and defensively Murray has fallen off a cliff while Trae is constantly targeted. Theoretically it should work but it hasn’t been great in practice.

Murrays defence is the craziest thing, I'm willing to chalk that up to ATL just being awful. OG didn't get magically better as a defender when he went to NYC, but he sure as hell looks like he did because the Knicks aren't as defensively inept as we are. I suspect the same with Murray, you go from a disciplined org like SAS, to the mess of the Hawks, that's gonna slip. Especially when you have to cover for arguably the worst defensive guard in the entire NBA.

What I don’t understand is how Quinn Synder doesn’t have these guys playing better defence. Capela, Okongwu, Murray are all decent defenders. Truly baffling, it must be a team thing because guys like Hunter offer nothing despite thinking they’d be good defenders. I’m confident that I could build a defensive team around Trae young, it shouldn’t be this difficult

[WaltFrazier]

Yeah neither can play off the ball and defensively Murray has fallen off a cliff while Trae is constantly targeted. Theoretically it should work but it hasn’t been great in practice.

Murrays defence is the craziest thing, I'm willing to chalk that up to ATL just being awful. OG didn't get magically better as a defender when he went to NYC, but he sure as hell looks like he did because the Knicks aren't as defensively inept as we are. I suspect the same with Murray, you go from a disciplined org like SAS, to the mess of the Hawks, that's gonna slip. Especially when you have to cover for arguably the worst defensive guard in the entire NBA.

What I don’t understand is how Quinn Synder doesn’t have these guys playing better defence. Capela, Okongwu, Murray are all decent defenders. Truly baffling, it must be a team thing because guys like Hunter offer nothing despite thinking they’d be good defenders. I’m confident that I could build a defensive team around Trae young, it shouldn’t be this difficult

Not disagreeing with your take, but it seems like Capela is not the rim protector he used to be.

[Scase]

Yeah neither can play off the ball and defensively Murray has fallen off a cliff while Trae is constantly targeted. Theoretically it should work but it hasn’t been great in practice.

Murrays defence is the craziest thing, I'm willing to chalk that up to ATL just being awful. OG didn't get magically better as a defender when he went to NYC, but he sure as hell looks like he did because the Knicks aren't as defensively inept as we are. I suspect the same with Murray, you go from a disciplined org like SAS, to the mess of the Hawks, that's gonna slip. Especially when you have to cover for arguably the worst defensive guard in the entire NBA.

What I don’t understand is how Quinn Synder doesn’t have these guys playing better defence. Capela, Okongwu, Murray are all decent defenders. Truly baffling, it must be a team thing because guys like Hunter offer nothing despite thinking they’d be good defenders. I’m confident that I could build a defensive team around Trae young, it shouldn’t be this difficult

TBF, people were saying the same thing here, sometimes a coach just isn't meant for defence I guess.

[Raps in 4]

Damn, the Hawks might never lose again.

[RoteSchroder]

I think Hawks/Bulls will end up with around 37 wins.

Meaning the Raps need to go 15-9 the rest of the way and we really need Poeltl for that.

[Pointgod]

Murrays defence is the craziest thing, I'm willing to chalk that up to ATL just being awful. OG didn't get magically better as a defender when he went to NYC, but he sure as hell looks like he did because the Knicks aren't as defensively inept as we are. I suspect the same with Murray, you go from a disciplined org like SAS, to the mess of the Hawks, that's gonna slip. Especially when you have to cover for arguably the worst defensive guard in the entire NBA.

What I don’t understand is how Quinn Synder doesn’t have these guys playing better defence. Capela, Okongwu, Murray are all decent defenders. Truly baffling, it must be a team thing because guys like Hunter offer nothing despite thinking they’d be good defenders. I’m confident that I could build a defensive team around Trae young, it shouldn’t be this difficult

Not disagreeing with your take, but it seems like Capela is not the rim protector he used to be.

Yeah he’s older and injured agreed, but that’s what you have Okongwu for. Just weird vibes on the team especially now that they’re killing it with Trae out.

[Chandan]

Yeah neither can play off the ball and defensively Murray has fallen off a cliff while Trae is constantly targeted. Theoretically it should work but it hasn’t been great in practice.

Murrays defence is the craziest thing, I'm willing to chalk that up to ATL just being awful. OG didn't get magically better as a defender when he went to NYC, but he sure as hell looks like he did because the Knicks aren't as defensively inept as we are. I suspect the same with Murray, you go from a disciplined org like SAS, to the mess of the Hawks, that's gonna slip. Especially when you have to cover for arguably the worst defensive guard in the entire NBA.

What I don’t understand is how Quinn Synder doesn’t have these guys playing better defence. Capela, Okongwu, Murray are all decent defenders. Truly baffling, it must be a team thing because guys like Hunter offer nothing despite thinking they’d be good defenders. I’m confident that I could build a defensive team around Trae young, it shouldn’t be this difficult

During the game it's mentioned that the hawks lead the league in offensive rebound? Their roster doesn't scream length or height. Maybe it's a product of trae launching from deep so often? It's one of those weird stats that doesn't line up with their player style or personnel (like bulls being top 5 in defense despite playing vuc and derozen)

[disoblige]

Damn, the Hawks might never lose again.

Trae out and Hawks wins by +20.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Predictably, as I said earlier, team gets a 1-2 game bump from opponents not knowing team schemes without star, then team comes crashing back to earth with 25 point loss to 11th ranked team. We got this play-in.

[dTox]

Should the Hawks and hornets think about exchanging franchise point guards? Cause neither are working out for where they are

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