2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2

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I'm starting to think long and hard about Tyler Smith's offensive ceiling because of PSubs and it's eating my brain alive because it might be a lot higher than I thought.

it's that quick release for a guy 6'10"

I mean I can see an outcome where with added muscle on that frame and more power he starts getting to his spots at will and elevating over everyone to knock down shots at really good percentages. The 74% from the line might give reason to pause but mechanically he looks damn good and can impact the game on the boards. While he might not be a huge stock guy I'd say 1 blk 1 stl per 36 is a reasonable outlook. Getting away with putting a top tier deep and midrange shooter on the floor at PF is huge value in today's NBA.

Is the GLeague still doing that weird thing with FTs?

Buzelis is getting more blocks but similar steals numbers. If he measures out at 6'11 without shoes, that's a legit stretch C option in 2-3 years after transitioning Poetl and Olynyk to the bench.

I envision Myles Turner with SF dribbling skills shooting 35-38% from 3. Turner's shot blocking has come down over the last few years while he focuses on his offense which will get him paid more.

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I think this year Gradey would be in the mix to go #5 to #7 overall in the eyes of NBA executives. Considering the top guys have bust potential and Gradey is starting to show he belongs and is indeed capable of being an elite NBA shooter and good in other areas, I'm not sure I'd trade him for anyone at this moment unless Topic really impresses the rest of the way.

I believe that Cody Williams is elite at finishing at the rim but I guess the rest of his game would be comparable to Gradey. So I would say 1-2 spots after wherever they think Cody would be drafted.

[Madhouse]

What # pick would you trade Gradey for in this draft?

1 so we could draft Topic who will be a superstar. Otherwise lets keep Gradey and see him develop into a stud.

[Psubs]

What # pick would you trade Gradey for in this draft?

1 so we could draft Topic who will be a superstar. Otherwise lets keep Gradey and see him develop into a stud.

Do you think Topic would be like Jason Kidd? Might take a decade for him to develop a passable 3? Maybe just a taller Ricky Rubio?

[binjumper]

Zach Edey going to be in the draft. The Wemby stopper.

[Psubs]

Zach Edey going to be in the draft. The Wemby stopper.

Probably more like the Embiid stopper.

[Mark_83]

I'm of the position that I for sure want to use at least one of our picks on a big. Either Ivisic, Ware, Yang, or Smith would be great to develop behind Poeltl and KO.

I wouldn't be averse to taking two bigs with the picks, but would lean guard or wing with the other pick along the lines of a Carter, Furphy, Sallis, Ajinca, Kolek, George, or Edwards.

[OakleyDokely]

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Kel'el Ware with an eye-opening performance

[Ell Curry]

Hall is one of the guys I feel strongly about, I think he's highly overrated and a DND for me.

For a bit of explanation I watched 3 full games this year TCU and both Miami FL games and came away super unimpressed. He looks decent in the condensed highlights but when you watch full games you're scratching your head sometimes at his gameplay and body language.

I've only seen him once, against Duke, but I can't say I was impressed. I guess he could be passable NBA backup 4 if he becomes a shooter, but that's not really a guy you grab with a top 4. We also have some bench shooters now (Olynyk, Dick hopefully is the 6th man if we get a starter in the 2025 draft, Agbaji). I guess the idea here is that he would be Olynyk 2.0, but Olynyk was a special finisher efficiency wise in college. He had better teammates for sure, but Olynyk has been a 56% 2pt shooter over his career. That's what Hall is in college. I'm not sure he can get near that in the pros.

Seems like a fun undrafted guy, not who I'd want at #31.

[Ell Curry]

I'm of the position that I for sure want to use at least one of our picks on a big. Either Ivisic, Ware, Yang, or Smith would be great to develop behind Poeltl and KO.

I wouldn't be averse to taking two bigs with the picks, but would lean guard or wing with the other pick along the lines of a Carter, Furphy, Sallis, Ajinca, Kolek, George, or Edwards.

I think we'll go BPA because the front office is down on the draft, but yeah a giant 7 footer makes sense. Hopefully in 3-5 years they can take over from Poeltl. I hope Clingan falls to us, or we can use #31 or Bruce Brown to grab him. I feel like he might be a solid 25 minute center if he stays healthy and that's a good outcome from this draft.

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This is definitely a game that will help Reed's resume

[BoyzNTheHood]

Kel'el Ware with an eye-opening performance

[alpngso]

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Reed is fcking baller. He maybe 6-1 and be the next Zimmer. But I can see why some have him in top 5

[RoteSchroder]

Kel'el Ware with an eye-opening performance

A lot of interesting bigs in the draft at both the Indiana and Detroit picks.

Ware's been putting together a string of good games. If he keeps it up, he may not be there at 17. And at least he's aWare (pun intended) of his lack of motor/toughness and is working on it.

Despite the offensive stinker, Ivisic seems to be adapting to not fouling while still contesting shots. He needs to string a few more good games together.

In terms of upside, I would put Tyler Smith lower than Ware/Ivisic. I think his defensive upside is a bit of a question mark as it's hard to evaluate on Ignite, but dude is a sharpshooter on O.

Also wonder if we go for a high risk player (Edey, Hansen, Chomche) at 31. I think it's essential to get someone to help handle Embiid, Jokic, Gobert/KAT, Mobley/Allen going forward. Even Randle/Hartenstein are troublesome for us.

[WuTang_CMB]

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Ware has a lot of growing up to do but there is a noticeable improvement in his game since earlier in the year. He's playing with more confidence and assertiveness and I'd say he still looked "raw" earlier in the year but now looks very draftable before Filipowski and Missi.

[Indeed]

What # pick would you trade Gradey for in this draft?

I am unsure other teams above the lottery would trade for Dick.
Even the draft is weaker, and Dick may rank much higher in this draft, that doesn't mean other teams are interested in trading their pick for our player, particularly, fitting with the team, fitting with the coaching philosophy, fitting with the team direction and standing may result differently.

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Ware has a lot of growing up to do but there is a noticeable improvement in his game since earlier in the year. He's playing with more confidence and assertiveness and I'd say he still looked "raw" earlier in the year but now looks very draftable before Filipowski and Missi.

I initially gravitated to Ware after obtaining the Pacers pick but then Tyler Smith attracted me more.

[PhilBlackson]

I'm of the position that I for sure want to use at least one of our picks on a big. Either Ivisic, Ware, Yang, or Smith would be great to develop behind Poeltl and KO.

I wouldn't be averse to taking two bigs with the picks, but would lean guard or wing with the other pick along the lines of a Carter, Furphy, Sallis, Ajinca, Kolek, George, or Edwards.

I think we'll go BPA because the front office is down on the draft, but yeah a giant 7 footer makes sense. Hopefully in 3-5 years they can take over from Poeltl. I hope Clingan falls to us, or we can use #31 or Bruce Brown to grab him. I feel like he might be a solid 25 minute center if he stays healthy and that's a good outcome from this draft.

If it’s at # 31, they’d be crazy not to.

Majority of the names that are thrown out with the DET pick are SGs and we already have Gradey and now Ochai developing there both of whom are clearly part of future plans.

On the flip side Kelly and Yak will be here another 3 tops and it wouldn’t surprise me if Poeltl is gone sooner than later considering he did say he didn’t want to be a part of rebuild AND he’s not a great fit offensively.

But having them both here is perfect for developing a young big who people always say take longer to develop. I doubt Big Z will be there for the DET pick but I think one of Yang or Chomche will be there. I could it being excellent for Yang to learn from both Kelly & Yak and if he hits he’ll prob make Yak dispensable sooner than later. If it’s Chomche then you know you can comfortably let him develop and build his game in the G League and should make for a smoother transition to the league. Either way the franchise just seen that had to pay with a FRP (one of which was a high lotto one) to get a decent C, now they can use a bargain of SRP in a supposedly bad draft to take a flyer on a C with the upside to be substantially better than either current C and be able to lock them up for prob the next 6-8 years.

Honestly seems like a no brainer move imo. I could really see Furphy (frp) & Yang (srp) really fitting into this new offence.