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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#901 » by gp2015 » Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:53 pm

Westside Gunn wrote:My worry is with the reliance on the three point shot, he may just end up being another Gary Trent/Terrence Ross. If the 3 isnt falling, the player is pretty much ineffective.

A mid ranger would really help. I want IQ to be our future Lowry.


Gary Trent and Ross are already bad comparisons. Neither of them could do anything other than shoot the ball. They can't run the offense, handle the ball at a high level or create plays for others. IQ can also at least get you some assists and rebounds when his shot is off. Those other guys are just pure shooters and nothing else.

IQ is already a better overall player than those guys ever were/are.

In terms of being our Lowry and setting up/running the offense, I think that will mostly be Scottie's job in the future.

I do agree that he needs to develop a mid range game and finish better at the basket if he wants to be an all star level player.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#902 » by YogurtProducer » Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:59 pm

Westside Gunn wrote:My worry is with the reliance on the three point shot, he may just end up being another Gary Trent/Terrence Ross. If the 3 isnt falling, the player is pretty much ineffective.

A mid ranger would really help. I want IQ to be our future Lowry.

His ability to pass is light years ahead of those 2.
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Post#903 » by Madhouse » Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:14 pm

I'm not too worried, this is probably his least effective stretch of his career in a new role, new city, new team. I wouldn't be surprised if he looks a lot better post all star break. There has been so much change with the team that I think every player on it needs to grow together, learn how to play together and improve.
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Post#904 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:21 pm

He's gonna average over 20ppg for the rest of the season.
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Post#905 » by TheAlchemist23 » Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:15 pm

Definitely needs to work on his finishing and layup package this summer. Otherwise I'm still high on him.
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Post#906 » by Statistician MK » Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:03 pm

We talked about this earlier...

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Nikola Jokic ............. 61.2%
CJ McCollum ............ 58.7%
Tyrese Haliburton ...... 56.7%
Jalen Brunson ........... 56.4%
Tyus Jones ............... 55.3%
Karl-Anthony Towns .... 54.1%
Luka Doncic ............. 53.5%
Immanuel Quickley ... 52.9%
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Post#907 » by djsunyc » Sun Feb 25, 2024 6:29 pm

i'm watching maxey right now vs. the bucks - w/o embiid playing. him and iq really do have very similar games. maxey has a slighty faster first step but he also keeps the dribble longer on attacks which gets him to the basket. iq picks it up a little earlier but overall, iq can really have a similar impact here. and the new mindset he has is the right one - be aggressive looking to score and pass off that.
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Post#908 » by ForeverTFC » Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:42 am

IQ last 3 games vs season as a raptor

PPG: 22 vs 17
FGA: 17.3 vs 14.2
3PA: 8.7 vs 6.7
Assists: 3.3 vs 5.5

He’s finally playing his game as a scoring lead guard and not masquerading around as a “PG”. This is what he was always supposed to provide and it’s translating into wins. Meanwhile Scottie is at 10.3 assist per game over the last 3 vs his season average of 6.1.

We’ve obviously played some bad defenses but the increase in attempts and decrease in assists isn’t really explained by that. I hope this is a permanent shift in role for both and not an outlier string of games.
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Post#909 » by Madhouse » Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:04 pm

A summer with his new team will do him a lot of good, he still needs to grow into his role and develop chemistry with Barnes. I'm very high on him for next season even if the immediate results could be better.
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Post#910 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Feb 27, 2024 5:07 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:IQ last 3 games vs season as a raptor

PPG: 22 vs 17
FGA: 17.3 vs 14.2
3PA: 8.7 vs 6.7
Assists: 3.3 vs 5.5

He’s finally playing his game as a scoring lead guard and not masquerading around as a “PG”. This is what he was always supposed to provide and it’s translating into wins. Meanwhile Scottie is at 10.3 assist per game over the last 3 vs his season average of 6.1.

We’ve obviously played some bad defenses but the increase in attempts and decrease in assists isn’t really explained by that. I hope this is a permanent shift in role for both and not an outlier string of games.

Preferably IQ gets to the the 22ppg and the 5.5apg at the same time.
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Post#912 » by Basketball_Jones » Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:23 pm

We need that 20 ppg scorer now with Siakam gone and I think IQ and RJ can fill that void easily. Not sure if Scottie is consistently that guy but a way better Lamar Odom type player averaging 18-8-8 type numbers is very good to compliment them.
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Post#913 » by Madhouse » Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:31 pm

Basketball_Jones wrote:We need that 20 ppg scorer now with Siakam gone and I think IQ and RJ can fill that void easily. Not sure if Scottie is consistently that guy but a way better Lamar Odom type player averaging 18-8-8 type numbers is very good to compliment them.


I imagine they all could be 20 point scorers next season.
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Post#915 » by LLJ » Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:32 pm

Madhouse wrote:
Basketball_Jones wrote:We need that 20 ppg scorer now with Siakam gone and I think IQ and RJ can fill that void easily. Not sure if Scottie is consistently that guy but a way better Lamar Odom type player averaging 18-8-8 type numbers is very good to compliment them.


I imagine they all could be 20 point scorers next season.


Yeah it's very easy to have three 20 point guys in today's faster NBA pace and offenses without either of the guys being absolute scoring studs. If this were 15 years ago it would be less likely because of the slower pace.
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Post#916 » by Ell Curry » Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:47 pm

djsunyc wrote:i'm watching maxey right now vs. the bucks - w/o embiid playing. him and iq really do have very similar games. maxey has a slighty faster first step but he also keeps the dribble longer on attacks which gets him to the basket. iq picks it up a little earlier but overall, iq can really have a similar impact here. and the new mindset he has is the right one - be aggressive looking to score and pass off that.


I think a lot of that difference is a function of Maxey being faster and having a better handle. If we were in a playoff series right now, you'd see Quickley getting trapped a lot and teams trying to reset off of that and muck up the first 10-12 seconds of our possessions.
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Post#917 » by djsunyc » Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:15 am

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djsunyc wrote:i'm watching maxey right now vs. the bucks - w/o embiid playing. him and iq really do have very similar games. maxey has a slighty faster first step but he also keeps the dribble longer on attacks which gets him to the basket. iq picks it up a little earlier but overall, iq can really have a similar impact here. and the new mindset he has is the right one - be aggressive looking to score and pass off that.


I think a lot of that difference is a function of Maxey being faster and having a better handle. If we were in a playoff series right now, you'd see Quickley getting trapped a lot and teams trying to reset off of that and muck up the first 10-12 seconds of our possessions.


this is the 1st time in his career that he has the keys. since he got here to the ASB, he was playing a way he wasn't used to. i'm sure darko convinced him the way to play is to be aggressive and make the right pass but not at the sacrifice of what makes him good - his scoring ability. we are seeing a much more scoring mindset after the break. if he keeps that up, then he should be fine in a playoff series but as with all our young guys, we won't know until they get there - and even then it make take a year or two to adjust to that type of competition.
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Re: Official Immanuel Quickley Thread 

Post#918 » by Ell Curry » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:30 am

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djsunyc wrote:i'm watching maxey right now vs. the bucks - w/o embiid playing. him and iq really do have very similar games. maxey has a slighty faster first step but he also keeps the dribble longer on attacks which gets him to the basket. iq picks it up a little earlier but overall, iq can really have a similar impact here. and the new mindset he has is the right one - be aggressive looking to score and pass off that.


I think a lot of that difference is a function of Maxey being faster and having a better handle. If we were in a playoff series right now, you'd see Quickley getting trapped a lot and teams trying to reset off of that and muck up the first 10-12 seconds of our possessions.


this is the 1st time in his career that he has the keys. since he got here to the ASB, he was playing a way he wasn't used to. i'm sure darko convinced him the way to play is to be aggressive and make the right pass but not at the sacrifice of what makes him good - his scoring ability. we are seeing a much more scoring mindset after the break. if he keeps that up, then he should be fine in a playoff series but as with all our young guys, we won't know until they get there - and even then it make take a year or two to adjust to that type of competition.


Yeah, I think he's a good fit overall as a scoring PG who is a little above average on D, as long as we can find a quality 2-way wing to complete the starting lineup, but his handle and finishing inside (post-floater and right at the rim) seems like the part of his game that could improve over the next couple summers/seasons if he works hard and gets lucky.

He's not going to be an 8 assist guy a game, doesn't need to be with Scottie here. I do think he could hunt 3s a little more aggressively off the ball in the halfcourt.
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23.8 PPG
4.8 APG
6.0 RPG
50.0 FG%
51.4 3P%
85.7 FT%


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