What should the bulls do in the offseason?

[Mike lorenzo]

Trapped in mediocrity and without their selection next year, what do you think or what would you do?

[Mike lorenzo]

Become younger while regaining your flexibility. They sign DDR again as a veteran leader and possible future asset. extends P.Williams.. and some shops...

Trade1(Bulls/Denver)

Lavine+Caruso for MPJ+Nnaji+R.Jackson+FRP 31

Trade 2(Bulls/Blazers)

Lonzo+Vuc+Blazers FRP for Ayton +Thybulle..

Ayton/Dru?
MPJ/Draft pick
P.Williams /Thybulle
DDR/Ayo
White/Carter

[JRoy]

POR isn’t doing that deal.

[gswhoops]

They should do what they should have done at the deadline - trade LaVine, Vuc, Caruso, etc. for the most value they can get and properly rebuild.

[ChettheJet]

They should trade. But only after they decide what they want to end up with.In order:

Decide if they want to resign Patrick Williams and are they willing to start him at the SF and turn him loose or let him get a RFA offer somewhere and let him go. They have had him at the PF on offense his entire time with the Bulls, he has deferred to Lavine and DeRozan for that time as well. He shoots a high % on 3's, he's shown a mid range game. Yes he needs to be more aggressive but Lavine and DeRozan are never wiling to give up their shots. On defense he's right there with Caruso guarding the hot guy be it 1-4 and he even played the small ball 5 at times. He brings the defense that Lavine and DeRozan could be part of but just aren't.

Do they really want to resign UFA DeRozan, at his age, for all the minutes he's playing this year, for what he brings. He like Lavine has not been part of a winning team in Chicago. You can brag about what a pro he is but is he a winner 1, 2, 3 years older? He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would accept a reduced role. What do they get back in a S&T?

How much progress towards healthy does Lonzo Ball make before training camp? One year left, stop with the fantasy that some team is gong to pay for the Bulls bad luck and pay him $20M to maybe retire. If he comes back it's a different team, just like if he had been around the past 2.5 seasons the Bulls would have been WAY better than they have been.

Will they trade Caruso to a team that thinks having him for a full season is worth what the Bulls are asking for him?
Can they trade Lavine and do they get any starters or even rotation players back?
Can they trade Vucevic, what team wants a double double center who isn't a defensive force?
Are they willing to find an actual big PF? Can they ever decide to not have 9 guards on the 15 man roster?
Does Drummond look for a larger role with another team, does he want to stay if he might start?

White Dosunmu Carter
maybe Lavine Terry
maybe Vucevic
maybe Williams
somebody Craig Phillips

nobody from the bench has played enough to say that they can take a starting job, at best they get rotation minutes for Terry and Phillips. Taylor, Bitim Sanogo, play once every 3 weeks

You can't make trade suggestions until you know what direction the team is going to take. The front office might as well quit f they say they think they'll be healthy so they're running back this group. That hasn't worked the last three tries.

[babyjax13]

Trade everyone by White, Ball (b/c you'd have to pay to move him in the offseason), and maybe Dosumnu. Collect as many draft assets and young players as possible. I wouldn't mind Billy Donovan staying around, I think the team has overachieved even this year with him. Certainly not a special coach, but a good enough one. See if Ball is recovered enough after 20 games to trade for an asset.

[giberish]

Trapped in mediocrity and without their selection next year, what do you think or what would you do?

Their pick is top-10 protected next year, then 1-8 the next few. So if they go full rebuild they keep their pick, but if they stay in play-in mode they don't.

[brackdan70]

Build around Caruso, White, Williams, Dosunmo. Try get as many assets as you can for Ball, Lavine, Vucevic, and move on from DD unless he will sign for a trade able contract.
Be ok trading Caruso for an overpay.

Aka rebuild

[theBigLip]

They are going to have to attach assets to move LaVine. His contract is actually worse than Ben Simmons.

[Dan Z]

They are going to have to attach assets to move LaVine. His contract is actually worse than Ben Simmons.

Zach has a longer contract, but unlike Simmons he can actually shoot. He's also been healthier than Simmons in recent years. LaVine played 77 games last year.

The reason why he's out this year is because he didn't think it was a good idea to gut out the season and better to get surgery in the off season. This way he can start next year ready to go.

[jayjaysee]

They don’t really have much to trade for value this offseason. But I’d blow it up.

[JRoy]

Nuke the site from orbit.

Only way to be sure.

[theBigLip]

They are going to have to attach assets to move LaVine. His contract is actually worse than Ben Simmons.

Zach has a longer contract, but unlike Simmons he can actually shoot. He's also been healthier than Simmons in recent years. LaVine played 77 games last year.

The reason why he's out this year is because he didn't think it was a good idea to gut out the season and get surgery in the off season. This way he can start next year ready to go.

Agree that at least LaVine can still ball. But the size of the deal is brutal compared to what he produces.

[Pipp33]

Get owner to sell and fire whole front office


Then can actually make a trade!!

Should have blown it up 18 months ago...then should definitely blown it up 6 months ago....then should have at least traded something before the trade deadline.

Terrible front office

[babyjax13]

Russell + Vincent + Vanderbilt + future 1st (2029) For LaVine makes a lot of sense to me. Los Angeles replaces DLo's minutes with Lavine and otherwise moves guys who have barely played this year. Javon Carter could also go back to the Lakers.

[Ell Curry]

I think just move Vucevic and Caruso, let Demar go (or S+T him) and tank to keep a top 10 pick by virtue of having the worst frontcourt in the league. Start a rookie frontcourt player and maybe you get a young big back in one of the deals. White-Dosunmu-Lavine-PatWilliams-2024 1st starting lineup.

Tank hard the next couple years, try to get 3 firsts in (2024-2026) to rebuild the frontcourt by finishing bottom 8 the next 2 years and maybe you convey in 2027 but there's a young frontcourt in town to go with White. Deal Lavine the second you get a decent offer. He'll probably have a good couple months and someone will get desperate, you can take back back short-medium term money if it brings back picks.

[vxmike]

Cry.

They waited too long to do anything useful. Lavine is now a negative contract, DDR is a UFA, and Caruso is now an expiring facing a big payday instead of 2-3 years left on a bargain deal. Chicago is easily a bottom 3 situation in the league moving forward.

[jayjaysee]

But if Chicago isn’t tanking and wants to keep on believing…I think you have to be willing to at least start the season pretty far over the tax given the lack of a true superstar.

You have to trade for an upgrade at forward. Could be the 2024 first and Lonzo for Kuzma or Grant.. That should be the top bid, right? But you could probably pull it off with the Portland first and a really strongly protected 2027 first and keep the 2024 pick? Say lottery protected in 2027, top 10 in 2028, top 8 on 2029, then a second? Seems like a real package to sell a fan base on getting “two firsts”

Then you have to outbid Philly and whoever else to keep Demar. Say you add a season to keep the yearly lower?

Then for whatever reason, I’m still offering Patrick Williams 15 a year.. if he can find a 20+ million deal, then let them have him and you no longer have tax issues..

And we want to keep Drummond.

No calculator, but I’m thinking that group is over the apron. If in December/January, you’re not slated in the play-in.. you hopefully can get some kind of value for a few of your top 8 players and make Pipfan happy at that point and clear the tax..

[cgf]

Do you mean in a perfect world were ownership allowed the FO to do whatever they thought was in the best longterm interests of the franchise? Or do you mean what should they do given ownership pressure to at least make the play-in without getting into the tax? Because the answer changes radically depending on which you mean.

[cgf]

Cry.

They waited too long to do anything useful. Lavine is now a negative contract, DDR is a UFA, and Caruso is now an expiring facing a big payday instead of 2-3 years left on a bargain deal. Chicago is easily a bottom 3 situation in the league moving forward.

On the plus side your pro- & amateur- scouts seem to be pretty good. So despite your pick deficit you're able to pick up good players. Sucks that ownership is content to cash in on a non-tax play-in team as long as people keep filling the UC, but I do think there's talent in your FO. They just haven't been able to work on a coherent plan since Lonzo broke.