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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1581 » by PhillyFan11 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:50 am

Mik317 wrote:trade your best players is the only thing most philly fans know

and then they complain that they don't have any good players.

Kemba played for the **** Hornets and IT **** up his hip and neither were the off ball talent Maxey is. Thats what makes him valuable in the modern NBA. The fact that he has gotten better each year, is a hard worker and is well liked also puts him ahead of Ben. Add in the fact that he currently makes peanuts so itsn't that valuable...trading him now is just **** stupid lol.

But again that and firing the coach is all some fans have as ways of improving.


If you’re not talking about a top 15 basketball player on the planet earth most of this board will think that player stinks. Trade everyone and everything to keep chasing the dragon that doesn’t actually exist.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1582 » by phifans » Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:04 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:
phifans wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:Who's comparing them>?

Do you struggle to comprehend the English language, or are you being deliberately obtuse to cover the fact you have no argument except " F#ck youz - Filly Rulz!!!"


You just put Ben and Maxey into the same situation — someone you should trade when their stock is high but totally ignore the difference into their growth curve.

You either struggle to conprehend my words or you may not even aware what you are talking.

Nah - I clearly wrote wrote that they are different situations, you're just trying to twist it because you are a homer incapable of comprehending anything other than "Filli PlAyerZ Rulz!!"

Sit this one out little fella, you are way out of your depth here.


I got what you're saying I just don't agree with you. Ben and Maxey are different story here. Ben can't make any progress meanwhile Maxey has made huge strides since coming here. And you don't define a guy who keeps making progress.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1583 » by NYSixersFan » Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:48 am

At this point I don't think Embiid is playing another game this year. I think the team knows that but wants to make sure fans keep coming to the games with the false hope he's coming back.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1584 » by 76ciology » Thu Feb 29, 2024 4:27 am

It's a blessing that we can identify our issues, especially against the Celtics, and work on them during the remaining games against mostly non contenders in the remaining 24 or so games of the regular season.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1585 » by TheBallsDeeper » Thu Feb 29, 2024 4:46 am

phifans wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:
phifans wrote:
You just put Ben and Maxey into the same situation — someone you should trade when their stock is high but totally ignore the difference into their growth curve.

You either struggle to conprehend my words or you may not even aware what you are talking.

Nah - I clearly wrote wrote that they are different situations, you're just trying to twist it because you are a homer incapable of comprehending anything other than "Filli PlAyerZ Rulz!!"

Sit this one out little fella, you are way out of your depth here.


I got what you're saying I just don't agree with you. Ben and Maxey are different story here. Ben can't make any progress meanwhile Maxey has made huge strides since coming here. And you don't define a guy who keeps making progress.

You didn't get what I was saying, and just proved it again. No use replying to me - you are the poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1586 » by phifans » Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:19 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:
phifans wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:Nah - I clearly wrote wrote that they are different situations, you're just trying to twist it because you are a homer incapable of comprehending anything other than "Filli PlAyerZ Rulz!!"

Sit this one out little fella, you are way out of your depth here.


I got what you're saying I just don't agree with you. Ben and Maxey are different story here. Ben can't make any progress meanwhile Maxey has made huge strides since coming here. And you don't define a guy who keeps making progress.

You didn't get what I was saying, and just proved it again. No use replying to me - you are the poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect.


Dude u do have trouble in communication but I like your arrogance ...
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1587 » by brannigan73 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:23 am

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GiannisAnte34 wrote:Tobias Harris over me!?

lmao that will never get old. even as a fan of a team that Jimmy has killed more than once

The only problem was Jimmy got it wrong. The reaason Sixers didn't re-sign him is because Brett Brown said he couldn't coach Butler - which is actually worse.
So Jummy looked like an imbecile saying that. And the sixers screwed their best chance of a championship for the past 40 and at least the next 10 years.


Jimmy doesnt look like an imbecile because he wanted to go to Miami and has made two finals in Miami and an Eastern Conference finals meanwhile the Sixers havent gotten past the second round. It was the Sixers fault I dont care what Butler said. And Brown saying he couldnt coach Butler is on Brown. A mistake by Brown. Why can Spoelstra coach him? Because Spoelstra is respected and doesnt expect elite veteran players to be boy scouts and not grouse from time to time.
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Post#1588 » by brannigan73 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:30 am

There is no way the Sixers dont make a bunch of moves this offseason. I dont understand what you think is going to happen this offeseason with that cap space? Are we not going to use it? Are we running back this team in some mistaken belief that before Embiid got hurt we could beat an elite team in the playoffs? Are we going to sign guys and then trade them at the trade deadline? Explain to me, in a way that makes sense, how we are entering next season without a capped team with some new guys locked in. Embiid's imput matters he would be furious. I dont feel like any of the guys besides Maxey and Hield that are free agents this offseason likely will be a Sixer next season. They are going to have to add multiple new players and they wont be minimum guys.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1589 » by TheBallsDeeper » Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:54 am

phifans wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:
phifans wrote:
I got what you're saying I just don't agree with you. Ben and Maxey are different story here. Ben can't make any progress meanwhile Maxey has made huge strides since coming here. And you don't define a guy who keeps making progress.

You didn't get what I was saying, and just proved it again. No use replying to me - you are the poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect.


Dude u do have trouble in communication but I like your arrogance ...

OK, defect when you can't complete very simple posts.

Enjoy the taste of crayons big boy.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1590 » by TheBallsDeeper » Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:59 am

brannigan73 wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:
GiannisAnte34 wrote:Tobias Harris over me!?

lmao that will never get old. even as a fan of a team that Jimmy has killed more than once

The only problem was Jimmy got it wrong. The reaason Sixers didn't re-sign him is because Brett Brown said he couldn't coach Butler - which is actually worse.
So Jummy looked like an imbecile saying that. And the sixers screwed their best chance of a championship for the past 40 and at least the next 10 years.


Jimmy doesnt look like an imbecile because he wanted to go to Miami and has made two finals in Miami and an Eastern Conference finals meanwhile the Sixers havent gotten past the second round. It was the Sixers fault I dont care what Butler said. And Brown saying he couldnt coach Butler is on Brown. A mistake by Brown. Why can Spoelstra coach him? Because Spoelstra is respected and doesnt expect elite veteran players to be boy scouts and not grouse from time to time.

Think you missed my point mate.

I was saying that Butler looks silly because he didn't understand the reason the Sixers didn't re-sign him, even years later.

They didn't re-sign Harris over him, they got rid of him because Brown and Simmons ego's could not deal with him demanding the best of them.

If Sixers got rid of Brown and Simmons instead of Butler they probably would have won a championship. Jimmy dodged a bullet by getting out of such a dysfunctional organisation.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1591 » by TheBallsDeeper » Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:11 am

brannigan73 wrote:There is no way the Sixers dont make a bunch of moves this offseason. I dont understand what you think is going to happen this offeseason with that cap space? Are we not going to use it? Are we running back this team in some mistaken belief that before Embiid got hurt we could beat an elite team in the playoffs? Are we going to sign guys and then trade them at the trade deadline? Explain to me, in a way that makes sense, how we are entering next season without a capped team with some new guys locked in. Embiid's imput matters he would be furious. I dont feel like any of the guys besides Maxey and Hield that are free agents this offseason likely will be a Sixer next season. They are going to have to add multiple new players and they wont be minimum guys.

The free agent list is terrible, all they can do is overpay for b B-grade players, pretty much Tobias Harris max contracts. So it will need to be trades.
What assets do the Sixers have that will bring in decent players? Outside of Maxey and Embiid, are there any players on the roster that have value??? So trades arnt going to happen.

The roster is a disaster, and cap space will be used on players who aren't very good.

The Sixers are in one of the worst positions in the league. It's going to be a car crash this offseason.

Ownership will stay on the play-in treadmill for the next decade. It's what private equity firms do.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1592 » by phifans » Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:40 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:
phifans wrote:
Dude u do have trouble in communication but I like your arrogance ...

OK, defect when you can't complete very simple posts.

Enjoy the taste of crayons big boy.


TheBallsDeeper wrote:
And in year four anyone that wasn't a delusional Philly homer was smashing Simmons - and we were right (rerasons were different. Simmons is uncoachable, Maxey if not a positive player no matter what he does). I had the same arguments here about Simmons - needed to trade while the stock was high.


Can't believe I have to teach you how to comprehend your own words in which you said you had the same arguments about Simmons and Maxey that they should be traded while the stock was high (for different reasons though) but then suddenly u decided to deny that you compare Maxey to Ben and start talking nonsense.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1593 » by Foshan » Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:06 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:
phifans wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:Who's comparing them>?

Do you struggle to comprehend the English language, or are you being deliberately obtuse to cover the fact you have no argument except " F#ck youz - Filly Rulz!!!"


You just put Ben and Maxey into the same situation — someone you should trade when their stock is high but totally ignore the difference into their growth curve.

You either struggle to conprehend my words or you may not even aware what you are talking.

Nah - I clearly wrote wrote that they are different situations, you're just trying to twist it because you are a homer incapable of comprehending anything other than "Filli PlAyerZ Rulz!!"

Sit this one out little fella, you are way out of your depth here.

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1594 » by eyeatoma » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:22 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:
brannigan73 wrote:There is no way the Sixers dont make a bunch of moves this offseason. I dont understand what you think is going to happen this offeseason with that cap space? Are we not going to use it? Are we running back this team in some mistaken belief that before Embiid got hurt we could beat an elite team in the playoffs? Are we going to sign guys and then trade them at the trade deadline? Explain to me, in a way that makes sense, how we are entering next season without a capped team with some new guys locked in. Embiid's imput matters he would be furious. I dont feel like any of the guys besides Maxey and Hield that are free agents this offseason likely will be a Sixer next season. They are going to have to add multiple new players and they wont be minimum guys.

The free agent list is terrible, all they can do is overpay for b B-grade players, pretty much Tobias Harris max contracts. So it will need to be trades.
What assets do the Sixers have that will bring in decent players? Outside of Maxey and Embiid, are there any players on the roster that have value??? So trades arnt going to happen.

The roster is a disaster, and cap space will be used on players who aren't very good.

The Sixers are in one of the worst positions in the league. It's going to be a car crash this offseason.

Ownership will stay on the play-in treadmill for the next decade. It's what private equity firms do.
Sounds like you'll do better than Morey. You should go and chat with Josh Harris.

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1595 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:52 am

TheBallsDeeper wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
TheBallsDeeper wrote:Thanks. Pay more attention in future, it might save you time simping to players who don't know you exist.


Woah! Dude! You're right again! Nailed it!

Thats it? Like, that's all you bothered contributing. Log off champ - you're cooked.


Yeah no doubt! I agree!
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Post#1596 » by Bum Adebayo » Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:03 pm

We are a treadmill team, but fans don't want to admit that. We are exactly what Portland were all those years, except they were called treadmill team non stop, we are contenders apparently.
The most logical path is to get as much out of an Embiid trade as possible, keep maxey as tank commander and rebuild. The sooner we admit the process failed, the earlier we can come back strong.
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Post#1597 » by mjkvol » Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:26 pm

the_process wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:
sixerguy wrote:
No chance of doing a sign and trade of some combination of Tobias, Melton, Hield, and a 1st for a big name?


I don't think any of those players sound good enough to be the centerpiece of a star trade. We'd have to rope in some pick-hungry GM because that's all we can offer. We have no young talent and no tradeable contracts outside of Reed.

On top of that, even if we acquired a star, we'd then have to rebuild the depth yet again. We can probably only retain 1-2 of our own free agents and would have to renounce the rest. I really don't see the cap space route working out.

My tin foil hat says Embiid told the FO that this is his last year in Philly if we don't win/advance past the 2nd round. Why else keep all the future flexibility in a summer void of good free agents?


Morey is gambling on the new CBA causing teams to scramble to get under the 2nd apron, and therefore some big name players becoming available. We'll see if it works out. Cap projection going down slightly doesn't hurt that gamble.


Exactly how I see it. The whole thing might blow up in his face, but the "no one will be available" viewpoint we see from many on here is incredibly shortsighted, as even in normal times it never seems to work that way. Morey is clearly banking on a tumultuous summer with a lot of teams making moves no one could anticipate. We'll see.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1598 » by 76ciology » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:43 pm

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Post#1599 » by 76ciology » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:44 pm

Calm down. Everything will be great after the Hornets game.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 2 

Post#1600 » by Eyeamok » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:53 pm

mjkvol wrote:
the_process wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:
I don't think any of those players sound good enough to be the centerpiece of a star trade. We'd have to rope in some pick-hungry GM because that's all we can offer. We have no young talent and no tradeable contracts outside of Reed.

On top of that, even if we acquired a star, we'd then have to rebuild the depth yet again. We can probably only retain 1-2 of our own free agents and would have to renounce the rest. I really don't see the cap space route working out.

My tin foil hat says Embiid told the FO that this is his last year in Philly if we don't win/advance past the 2nd round. Why else keep all the future flexibility in a summer void of good free agents?


Morey is gambling on the new CBA causing teams to scramble to get under the 2nd apron, and therefore some big name players becoming available. We'll see if it works out. Cap projection going down slightly doesn't hurt that gamble.


Exactly how I see it. The whole thing might blow up in his face, but the "no one will be available" viewpoint we see from many on here is incredibly shortsighted, as even in normal times it never seems to work that way. Morey is clearly banking on a tumultuous summer with a lot of teams making moves no one could anticipate. We'll see.

BOOM and there you have it. People act like everything is a straight line and static. No the NBA is fluid and things are always in flux and subject to change. If you are not in the trenches then all you can do is assume and make educated guesses. Sometimes you maybe right but most of the time you will be wrong. Right now the Wolves are playing excellent basketball. 2 season ago everyone who knew "anything" about baseball on Realgm, said it was the worse trade ever. And now posters are writing "you know maybe the Wolves can actually make some noise this season in the playoffs!"

I won't pretend I know what Morey has planned but you don't get to his level in the NBA you don't have his sustainability by doing the everyday chit that someone on Realgm would do. If he does then he needs to be out of here.
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