BNM wrote:tester551 wrote:BNM wrote:
LOL!!! Did you just compare Chauncey Billups to Steve Kerr???? Really???
Steve Kerr record through 219 game = 186 - 33
Chauncey Billups record through 219 games = 75 - 144
Kerr knew how to coach on day one and t was obvious. After nearly three seasons, Chauncey still has zero clues what a modern NBA offense looks like. Unfortunately, that is also obvious.
Not defending Chauncey here, but I REALLY hate these type of arguments. It completely ignores the roster makeup and talent.... which has a bigger influence than anything else.
I mean look at how Kerr is doing this season... 500 ball (not exactly 'elite').
What about Pop? Did he forget how to coach? He's gone 67 - 154 the last 3 seasons. He has a worse record than Billups does over that period.
I hate these kind of excuse filled arguments. Chauncey wasn't hired to be a tank commander. He was hired to win with Damian Lillard in his prime. OK, we can play the injury excuse card for year one (we could also play that same excuse for GSW's record this season - which at 29-26 is still better than anything Chauncey has ever done).
Second year starting line up:
Jusuf Nurkic: 13.3ppg, 0.589 TS%
Jerami Grant: 20.5 ppg, 0.606 TS%
Josh Hart: 9.5 ppg, 0.586 TS%
Anfernee Simons: 21.1 ppg, 0.581 TS%
Damian Lillard: 32.2 ppg, 0.645 TS%
Does that look like the starting line up of a lottery team to you? It sure looks like a play off team to me. You have Damian Lillard having the best season of his career, by a wide margin. You have an entire starting five that scores at, or above the league average efficiency, including two additional 20+ ppg scorers.
That was the best pair of starting forwards Lillard played with since Aldridge + Batum.
So what kept that team from making the playoffs? No, it wasn't injuries. They shut down Dame, Ant, Nurk, traded Hart, etc. after it was obvious they wouldn't even sniff the play-in.
The answer: it was Chauncey's complete ineptitude. POR had the talent to regularly have double digit leads at the half, only to lead the league, by a wide margin, in blown second half double digit leads (14 and counting when they decided to shut it down and tank). How does a team with that much offensive talent constantly get out scored by double digits in the second half? Simple, other real NBA coaches coached circles around Chauncey. Make one simple adjustment at the half and Chauncey is clueless how to respond. Time after time after time after time, you could just see those big leads vanish while Chauncey made ZETRO counter adjustments.
POR was consistently a top 3 clutch time team under Stotts and they had Damian Lillard having the best season of his career. Yet, under Chauncey, they couldn't score to save their lives with the game on the line. I have no idea what kind of plays Chauncey was calling, but neither did the players. They consistently turned the ball over and often couldn't even get a shot off before the shot clock expired.
Remember - 14 blown double digit second half leads - WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO WIN AND MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. They did not start the season with the goal of tanking, but Chauncey is the reason they ended up there. Based on the roster, that team greatly underachieved, and Chauncey was the reason why.
He's also doing a terrible job developing the young talent. The only think he's capable of teaching them is how to lose - a lot.
He was not the right coach for a win now team and he's also not the right coach to develop young players. He simply has no idea how to run a modern NBA offense. POR is dead last in AST/G, 29th in PTS/G and ORtg, 28th in TOV/G and dead last in TS%. Yes they have some young guys, but they also have veterans like Jerami Grant, Anfernee Simons, Malcom Brogdon and De'Andre Ayton - all proven veterans that have regularly scored at above league average efficiency - until they played for Chauncey.
They have, flat out, the worst offense in the league. No player movement, no ball movement, just endless ISOs that lead to TOVs and low percentage shots. POR gets so few assists, because they don't move the ball - yet they are 28th in TOVs? How is that possible? Chauncey, that's how.
Keep bringing the excuses, but relative to expectations and roster, this team has underachieved every year under Chauncey. No, they didn't have the talent GSW had early in Kerr's coaching career, but Kerr coached that team up from 51 wins and a 1st round exit to 67 wins and an NBA Championship in his first season, with virtually the same roster Mark Jackson had the year before. Kerr consistently coaches his roster up, Chauncey consistently coaches his roster down.
Yeah Chauncey has clearly been a step down from stotts in my eyes. At least stotts teams were somewhat good on offense. Chauncey coaches slow ball and his one credit I've heard anyone give him is a low points allowed which, like nate, doesn't matter much when your pace is close to the gutter