Warchest Check

[NYG]

Post your teams first round picks they could trade post-draft this off-season including your own picks you still have and excluding the ones you cannot trade. Including only first round picks and first round swaps... basically what could your team offer picks wise if they went all in this off-season?

[NYG]

This is the kind of layout I'm looking for...

76ers Draft Assets (in):
2024 18th’ish (available on draft day)
2026 Least favorable of OKC, Rockets, Clippers or Own
2028 Clippers (unprotected) or Own (unprotected)
2029 Clippers Swap (1-3)
2029 Own 1st (with 2 years after Nets owed lang)
2030 Own Swap (but with what-if lang)
2031 Own 1st (with 2 years after 2029 owed lang and after 2024 draft day)

Owed:
2025 Owed OKC (1-6)
2027 Owed Nets (1-8)

[wemby]

No need to ask any 3rd party to do your job, everything you asked for is right here at a click of your mouse:
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/yearly
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

[HornetJail]

2024 CHA 1st: #4
2024 HOU 2nd: #39
2025 CHA 1st (1-14 rights only)
2025 PHI 2nd
2025 CHA 2nd (31-55 rights only)
2026 CHA 1st swap
2027 CHA 1st
2027 MIA 1st (lotto prot, 2028 unp)
2027 DAL 1st (top 2 prot otherwise 2028 MIA 2nd)
2027 NOP/POR 2nd (more favorable)
2028 CHA 1st swap
2028 CHA/LAC 2nd (more favorable)
2029 CHA 1st
2029 CHA 2nd
2030 CHA 1st swap
2030 CHA 2nd
2031 CHA 1st
2031 CHA 2nd

It would be ridiculous to make an "all-in" move in our current fragile state, but a top 5 pick, 6* other 1sts (5 if we're a playoff team next season), 4 swaps should be enough to get whatever "reasonable" splash we want to make in the future.

[NYG]

No need to ask any 3rd party to do your job, everything you asked for is right here at a click of your mouse:
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/yearly
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

I mean you can lock it if you want... I just think laying it out in one thread would have been convenient.

[ChettheJet]

Bulls have the lottery protected PORT pick through 2028, At the pace the Blazers are on that may never show up

They owe their 1-10 protected 2025 pick to SAS, then it's 1-8 then 1-8 then 2028 it would be a 2nd

If the Bulls were to ever decide to tank, unlikely, they appear to owe their 2024,25, 26, 27 2nd round picks all over so were they to decide to tank they would be candidates to take back 4 second round picks in a big trade

[wegotthabeet]

Post your teams first round picks they could trade post-draft this off-season including your own picks you still have and excluding the ones you cannot trade. Including only first round picks and first round swaps... basically what could your team offer picks wise if they went all in this off-season?

The better question would be which team has the best or which teams have the top 5 best war chest of picks. Most people would probably say OKC, but I think Utah or San Antonio actually have the better collection of assets. At very least it’s debatable now.

[vege]

Detroit have 9 wins and a negative warchest.

The Knicks have the rights to our 1st, with protections.
We have the rights to the Knicks 2nd in 2024.

We don't have any 2nds untill 2027 when we have our own and Dallas 2nd.
We don't have our own 2nd in 2028
2028 and 2029 we have the Knicks 2nds
2029 we have Milwaukee 2nd
2030 we have Minny's 2nd

That's depressing.

[Fencer reregistered]

The Cs traded away 2029 unprotected, so they can't trade 2028-30. Also, they're heading for the second apron; I'm not sure what that implies for 2031. Their firsts are clean for 2024-7.

They have none of their own seconds for the next 6 years, but do have one from another team in each of 2024-6.

[TheNetsFan]

Post your teams first round picks they could trade post-draft this off-season including your own picks you still have and excluding the ones you cannot trade. Including only first round picks and first round swaps... basically what could your team offer picks wise if they went all in this off-season?

The better question would be which team has the best or which teams have the top 5 best war chest of picks. Most people would probably say OKC, but I think Utah or San Antonio actually have the better collection of assets. At very least it’s debatable now.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ranking-all-56-traded-future-nba-first-round-picks-kevin-durant-kyrie-irving-trades-shake-up-list/

This was from the summer, pre-Dame trade.

[wegotthabeet]

Post your teams first round picks they could trade post-draft this off-season including your own picks you still have and excluding the ones you cannot trade. Including only first round picks and first round swaps... basically what could your team offer picks wise if they went all in this off-season?

The better question would be which team has the best or which teams have the top 5 best war chest of picks. Most people would probably say OKC, but I think Utah or San Antonio actually have the better collection of assets. At very least it’s debatable now.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ranking-all-56-traded-future-nba-first-round-picks-kevin-durant-kyrie-irving-trades-shake-up-list/

This was from the summer, pre-Dame trade.

If Brooklyn traded Mikal for their picks back then I might put them at 1.

[gswhoops]

Assuming our pick conveys to Portland this year (which it will unless it’s in the top 4), we will have all of our picks but no additional picks

[Wolveswin]

Assuming our pick conveys to Portland this year (which it will unless it’s in the top 4), we will have all of our picks but no additional picks

If by we, you mean GSW, Warriors owe 2030 1-20 protected.

[gswhoops]

Assuming our pick conveys to Portland this year (which it will unless it’s in the top 4), we will have all of our picks but no additional picks

If by we, you mean GSW, Warriors owe 2030 1-20 protected.

Oh duh you’re right

[AingesBurner]

Utah
24 pick from OKC
Potentially our 24 pick if we suck
25 Minny 1st
25 Cleveland 1st
26 Minny Swap
26 Cleveland swap
27 Cleveland 1st
27 Minny 1st
27 LAL top 4 1st
27 Utah 1st
28 Cleveland swap
28 Utah 1st
29 Cleveland 1st
29 Top 5 Minny 1st
29 Utah 1st
30 Utah 1st

[jayjaysee]

I feel like OKC shouldn’t be included as they don’t seem to have a need to use their warchest. Will just continue drafting in the lottery and/or delaying firsts every year. Not sure we’ve ever seen it done so well.

Teams with extra picks that have a warchest.. I think I side with Utah due to volume. But the teams they own are set up relatively well for the first draft at least, and most for the 2nd.. so will have to wait for payment.

SAS is set nicely with Toronto and Chicagos thanks to Chicago’s expected unwillingness to rebuild..

Portland is set up nicely if they actually trade their vets? The 2028-2030 ownership of Milwaukee firsts are really interesting. Boston might not sustain.. If Portland trades their vets (and Simons?) and ends up with an addition 3-4 firsts while tanking another year..

[basketballwacko2]

No need to ask any 3rd party to do your job, everything you asked for is right here at a click of your mouse:
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/yearly
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

I mean you can lock it if you want... I just think laying it out in one thread would have been convenient.

Well there is RealGM page, but some of the entries are massively confusing even for a brainiac like me. For example:

"2024 Indiana Pacers 2nd round picks"

2024 - Least favorable of IND, CLE and UTH if IND conveys 1st round pick to TOR in 2024 [may be conveyed to GOS; see below], or to TOR if IND does not convey 1st round pick to TOR in 2024 (via TOR to MEM to LAC; via UTH swap for CLE; via CLE to IND to MIL to MEM to LAC to PHL to IND); More favorable of (i) TOR and (ii) more favorable of (a) IND and (b) less favorable of CLE and UTH then other to LAC (via CLE to IND to MIL to MEM to LAC to PHL to IND; via UTH swap for CLE; via TOR to MEM to LAC); Less favorable of CHI and NOP [may be conveyed to GOS; see below] (via CHI to NOP to IND); MIL [may be conveyed to GOS; see below]; Least / less favorable of (i) least favorable of IND, CLE and UTH if (i) conveyable [as set forth above], (ii) less favorable of CHI and NOP and (iii) MIL to GOS

I don't know for sure what they have I think there is a 2024 2nd that came from Philly in the Buddy Hield trade and 2 later picks but IDK for sure.

[wemby]

No need to ask any 3rd party to do your job, everything you asked for is right here at a click of your mouse:
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/yearly
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

I mean you can lock it if you want... I just think laying it out in one thread would have been convenient.

Well there is RealGM page, but some of the entries are massively confusing even for a brainiac like me. For example:

"2024 Indiana Pacers 2nd round picks"

2024 - Least favorable of IND, CLE and UTH if IND conveys 1st round pick to TOR in 2024 [may be conveyed to GOS; see below], or to TOR if IND does not convey 1st round pick to TOR in 2024 (via TOR to MEM to LAC; via UTH swap for CLE; via CLE to IND to MIL to MEM to LAC to PHL to IND); More favorable of (i) TOR and (ii) more favorable of (a) IND and (b) less favorable of CLE and UTH then other to LAC (via CLE to IND to MIL to MEM to LAC to PHL to IND; via UTH swap for CLE; via TOR to MEM to LAC); Less favorable of CHI and NOP [may be conveyed to GOS; see below] (via CHI to NOP to IND); MIL [may be conveyed to GOS; see below]; Least / less favorable of (i) least favorable of IND, CLE and UTH if (i) conveyable [as set forth above], (ii) less favorable of CHI and NOP and (iii) MIL to GOS

I don't know for sure what they have I think there is a 2024 2nd that came from Philly in the Buddy Hield trade and 2 later picks but IDK for sure.

What's complicated is the set of circumstances agreed upon by the teams, any explanation can only be so clear if the teams decided on such a convoluted deal.

[Wolveswin]

I feel like OKC shouldn’t be included as they don’t seem to have a need to use their warchest. Will just continue drafting in the lottery and/or delaying firsts every year. Not sure we’ve ever seen it done so well.

Crazy enough, I don’t think OKC/Presti has the warchest quality many presume. No doubt he has quantity, but let’s take a look…

2024:
+#9 and #11 today. But #11 protected 1-10 and could pushed to 2025 (Jazz 1-10 again) which could be a PLUS.

2025:
+Own OKC 1st with Rockets Swap (1-10 protected) + Clippers Swap (unprotected)
+Heat 1st (1-14 protected)
+Philly (1-6 protected)

So far not so great quality. 2024 is meh and lots of hope teams in 2025 implode or those are late 1sts.

2026:
++2x Best of OKC, Clippers, Rockets (1-4 protected) worst 1st goes to Philly

2027:
++2x Best of OKC, Clippers, Nuggets (1-5 protected with two years after 25 being conveyed language) with Clippers getting worse 1st via swap

2028:
+Own OKC 1st with Dallas Swap (unprotected)

2029:
+Own OKC 1st
+Nuggets 1st (1-5 protected with two years after 27 being conveyed language)

2030:
+Own OKC 1st

Breaking this list down, I think the most valuable 1sts Presti might own are his own OKC 1sts…because they can come truly unprotected AND with swaps (best of) in 25, 26, 27, 28.

[jayjaysee]

I feel like OKC shouldn’t be included as they don’t seem to have a need to use their warchest. Will just continue drafting in the lottery and/or delaying firsts every year. Not sure we’ve ever seen it done so well.

Crazy enough, I don’t think OKC/Presti has the warchest quality many presume. No doubt he has quantity, but let’s take a look…

2024:
+#9 and #11 today. But #11 protected 1-10 and could pushed to 2025 (Jazz 1-10 again) which could be a PLUS.

2025:
+Own OKC 1st with Rockets Swap (1-10 protected) + Clippers Swap (unprotected)
+Heat 1st (1-14 protected)
+Philly (1-6 protected)

So far not so great quality. 2024 is meh and lots of hope teams in 2025 implode or those are late 1sts.

2026:
++2x Best of OKC, Clippers, Rockets (1-4 protected) worst 1st goes to Philly

2027:
++2x Best of OKC, Clippers, Nuggets (1-5 protected with two years after 25 being conveyed language) with Clippers getting worse 1st via swap

2028:
+Own OKC 1st with Dallas Swap (unprotected)

2029:
+Own OKC 1st
+Nuggets 1st (1-5 protected with two years after 27 being conveyed language)

2030:
+Own OKC 1st

Breaking this list down, I think the most valuable 1sts Presti might own are his own OKC 1sts…because they can come truly unprotected AND with swaps (best of) in 25, 26, 27, 28.

I expect the 2024 Houston or Utah first to be flipped/delayed for future picks. No reason to add a kid to this group.

I think the 2026 first is pretty valuable still. Seems realistic that one of LAC/Houston is in the lottery.

I think Denver could convey a nice pick. Joker will be 33 in 2029 and have hit free agency. And the team will be severely limited in building around their current group in 2027, but they’ll have Jokic as long as he stays happy.

2028 Dallas swap.. Luka will be young enough but will he resign or demand out once he’s gets his supermax?

2025 firsts will be flipped for distant picks/swaps similar to how he handled this years less valuable picks..

Presti’s willingness to delay assets is part of what makes it impressive.

On top of owning probably 20 second round picks to consolidate, add to taste..