Pacers Pick Tracking (Update: #19 officially)

Statistician MK · Post #581 » by **Statistician MK** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 3:32 am

SpezNc wrote:2024 1st round pick (IND) [Protected]*

How could Tankathon.com get it so wrong?
I have never found fault with them before.

Los_29 · Post #582 » by **Los_29** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 3:32 am

Haliburton has been awful. They really need to sit him. Hate to see him hurt but his injury could possibly get us a lottery pick.

wegotthabeet · Post #583 » by **wegotthabeet** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 3:33 am

SpezNc wrote:
Statistician MK wrote:
SpezNc wrote:It’s top3 protected.

It's "Unprotected"!
https://www.tankathon.com/raptors

https://www.salaryswish.com/draft/2024?pick=12

Toronto Raptors Acquire:
Logo of the Toronto Raptors

Bruce Brown Jr.
Kira Lewis Jr.
Jordan Nwora
2024 1st round pick (IND) [Protected]*
2024 1st round pick (OKC) [Conditional]**
2026 1st round pick (IND) [Protected]***
*Protected Details: TOR receives a protected 2021 1st round pick from IND, details are below:

2024: 1-3, if not conveyed, IND will send the lowest 2024 2nd round pick of IND, UTA, or CLE and IND 2025 2nd round pick
*Protected Result: Pending
**Conditions: TOR receives the least favorable 2024 1st round pick of OKC, HOU (protected 1-4), UTA (protected 1-10), or LAC
**Conditional Result: Pending
***Protected Details: TOR receives a protected 2026 1st round pick from IND, details are below:

2026: 1-4 - if not conveyed,
2027: 1-4 - if not conveyed,
2027: 2nd round pick of UTA and 2028 2nd round pick of DAL
***Protected Result: Pending
Trade Exceptions Generated:
Pascal Siakam · $10,171,292

It’s top 3 protected. Tankathon is wrong or not updated.

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team

https://www.si.com/nba/pacers/news/sources-indiana-pacers-three-draft-picks-traded-to-toronto-raptors-are-protected

SpezNc · Post #584 » by **SpezNc** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 3:47 am

Statistician MK wrote:
SpezNc wrote:2024 1st round pick (IND) [Protected]*

How could Tankathon.com get it so wrong?
I have never found fault with them before.

Good question.

I know the conditions were not reported initially

I am guessing they never update when the conditions got out publicly

What i don’t understand is why we accepted the conditions . Obviously it’s negotiation but I would have tried to put the following conditions: in the event the pick become a top3 pick, Toronto going to send back the OKC pick to Indiana

Potential · Post #585 » by **Potential** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 3:49 am

Fake all star Haliburton is horrible. Thanks for the pick

AkelaLoneWolf · Post #586 » by **AkelaLoneWolf** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 3:50 am

Los_29 wrote:Haliburton has been awful. They really need to sit him. Hate to see him hurt but his injury could possibly get us a lottery pick.

he needs his supermax. he'll sit when he has played 65 games. he's played 48 games right now. hopefully they put him on a minutes restriction so he doesn't aggravate the injury too much.

Tor_Raps · Post #587 » by **Tor_Raps** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 3:58 am

AkelaLoneWolf wrote:
Los_29 wrote:Haliburton has been awful. They really need to sit him. Hate to see him hurt but his injury could possibly get us a lottery pick.

he needs his supermax. he'll sit when he has played 65 games. he's played 48 games right now. hopefully they put him on a minutes restriction so he doesn't aggravate the injury too much.

Thing is that he won't make the all nba team with the way he's been playing the past month. Regardless, whatever gets us a higher pick is all I care about lol.

Chalky_White · Post #588 » by **Chalky_White** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 4:01 am

MiamiSPX wrote:This might end up a lottery pick.

Pacers are frauds. Wont be surprised if the pick is lottery.

Psubs · Post #589 » by **Psubs** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 4:03 am

ItsDanger wrote:Empty calorie Siakam strikes again. Indiana needs to make more changes.

They need Poeltl!

Los_29 · Post #590 » by **Los_29** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 4:38 am

ItsDanger wrote:Empty calorie Siakam strikes again. Indiana needs to make more changes.

Haliburton has been hurt. Tough break for them. He’s been awful the past month. It will be interesting to see them healthy.

YogurtProducer · Post #591 » by **YogurtProducer** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 4:56 am

Los_29 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Empty calorie Siakam strikes again. Indiana needs to make more changes.

Haliburton has been hurt. Tough break for them. He’s been awful the past month. It will be interesting to see them healthy.

Usual suspects are on Siakams ass when Hali is averaging like 11ppg recently.

AkelaLoneWolf · Post #592 » by **AkelaLoneWolf** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 4:56 am

Tor_Raps wrote:
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:
Los_29 wrote:Haliburton has been awful. They really need to sit him. Hate to see him hurt but his injury could possibly get us a lottery pick.

he needs his supermax. he'll sit when he has played 65 games. he's played 48 games right now. hopefully they put him on a minutes restriction so he doesn't aggravate the injury too much.

Thing is that he won't make the all nba team with the way he's been playing the past month. Regardless, whatever gets us a higher pick is all I care about lol.

he'll make all nba. at the very least, he'll get a pity vote from the nba media.

Scase · Post #593 » by **Scase** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 5:40 am

ItsDanger wrote:Empty calorie Siakam strikes again. Indiana needs to make more changes.

But I was told he just needed better players around him.

Tha Cynic · Post #594 » by **Tha Cynic** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 7:32 am

Players also get hot for half a season and then cool off. How much of this is injury and how much is partly insane shooting regressing to the mean? The entire Pacers team lives and dies by the 3.

Los_29 · Post #595 » by **Los_29** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 10:34 am

Tha Cynic wrote:Players also get hot for half a season and then cool off. How much of this is injury and how much is partly insane shooting regressing to the mean? The entire Pacers team lives and dies by the 3.

His percentages are not drastically down from the months he was healthy with the exception of his insane November. The difference is he’s playing a lot less minutes and his usage is down a lot. He’s not right.

Green Backpack · Post #596 » by **Green Backpack** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 12:07 pm

It's a real log jam around 35 wins right now. No one in the East will catch them, but GSW and LAL could. They could also jump up to 4th in the East within a week or 2 if they put together a few wins.

RoteSchroder · Post #597 » by **RoteSchroder** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 12:16 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Empty calorie Siakam strikes again. Indiana needs to make more changes.

Haliburton has been hurt. Tough break for them. He’s been awful the past month. It will be interesting to see them healthy.

Usual suspects are on Siakams ass when Hali is averaging like 11ppg recently.

Siakam's a good offensive player, but the problem is that everyone and their momma can play offense nowadays. Elite two-way defenders are more of a rarity. To see Siakam's impact, you need to put him on a team full of defenders who have trouble on O.

A major problem with Siakam is the lack of defense from the PF position. Siakam's rim protection numbers, for example, are abysmal. He contests shots (<6 ft) at a lower frequency, lower volume and worse defensive FG% than Buddy Hield.

The names that are less effective than Siakam at contesting shots at the rim include: Trae Young, Coby White, Anfernee Simons, Shaedon Sharpe, Scoot Henderson, Terry Rozier, Mitch Robinson (helps explain the Knicks turnaround - it wasn't just OG - iHart is elite here), Cade Cunningham. That's not a good list to be on.

PhilBlackson · Post #598 » by **PhilBlackson** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 12:29 pm

As an aside I kno it sounds like Pascal would like to stay with IND but I wonder how heavily PHI will pursue him and if they can change his mind. I want a high 26’ pick lol

Los_29 · Post #599 » by **Los_29** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 12:40 pm

RoteSchroder wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Haliburton has been hurt. Tough break for them. He’s been awful the past month. It will be interesting to see them healthy.

Usual suspects are on Siakams ass when Hali is averaging like 11ppg recently.

Siakam's a good offensive player, but the problem is that everyone and their momma can play offense nowadays. Elite two-way defenders are more of a rarity. To see Siakam's impact, you need to put him on a team full of defenders who have trouble on O.

A major problem with Siakam is the lack of defense from the PF position. Siakam's rim protection numbers, for example, are abysmal. He contests shots (<6 ft) at a lower frequency, lower volume and worse defensive FG% than Buddy Hield.

The names that are less effective than Siakam at contesting shots at the rim include: Trae Young, Coby White, Anfernee Simons, Shaedon Sharpe, Scoot Henderson, Terry Rozier, Mitch Robinson (helps explain the Knicks turnaround - it wasn't just OG - iHart is elite here), Cade Cunningham. That's not a good list to be on.

I do find it odd that his blocks have completely disappeared from his game. With that said we know Pascal can defend and with Turner on that team, Pascal doesn’t need to be a rim protector. Offensively, he will be a great fit with a healthy Haliburton. He should thrive in that offense. I mean he’s been very efficient there despite playing with an injured Haliburton.

MiamiSPX · Post #600 » by **MiamiSPX** » Mon Mar 4, 2024 12:56 pm

Chalky_White wrote:
MiamiSPX wrote:This might end up a lottery pick.

Pacers are frauds. Wont be surprised if the pick is lottery.

I've said all along that if they end up in the play-in, I don't like their chances of advancing. D is optional on that team and pretty much every single one of them don't play a lick of it.