Wembanyama. I'm concerned

[Miami_Lux]

Wembanyama last 8 games

30.4mpg
24.6ppg (on 62.6 TS%)
11.8rpg
5.4apg
2.4spg
5.4bpg
3.3topg
+47


Been on an absolute tear.

what about his three point shooting percentage?

I see what we are doing. I'll make sure to post his stats over an 8 game downswing. Good job.

[Miami_Lux]

Wtf, at this rate he will end the season like a top 5 player. In his rookie season. Insane.

Come on. You tell me people are not getting carried away.

[CD_41]

Wtf, at this rate he will end the season like a top 5 player. In his rookie season. Insane.

Come on. You tell me people are not getting carried away.

Come on, bro. Just admit you were wrong in your evaluations. It happens to all of us.

[hickfromfrenchlick]

Wembanyama last 8 games

30.4mpg
24.6ppg (on 62.6 TS%)
11.8rpg
5.4apg
2.4spg
5.4bpg
3.3topg
+47


Been on an absolute tear.

what about his three point shooting percentage?

I see what we are doing. I'll make sure to post his stats over an 8 game downswing. Good job.

Can you point to a bust/disappointing player who put up those kinds of stats over an 8-game stretch?

Actually, can you point to any player who put up those kinds of stats over an 8-game stretch?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I don t see the problem with my original post. I didn't say he was going to be a bust. Admittedly he has improved a lot in terms of shooting efficiency and overall offensive game. Plus I am impressed by his passing game which actually seems to go under the radar here. Defensively he is already elite due to length and extreme agility/mobility.

I'm still not sure whether his offensive game will ever be elite. He is putting up stats on a garbage team with no expectations to win and a green light to do whatever he wants, in a league that has inflated scoring by restricting what offenses can do.

So, help me out here, logically speaking which scenario is more likely -


A. He gets stronger over the next 3 years and is able to hold position better, removing the option for teams to put smaller guys on him, much like how Kristaps eviscerates wings in the post now. As a result of getting stronger his drive game opens up more and teams can only defend him with their C, the vast majority of them can't do it which is why teams try to defend him with wings in the first place.

B. He becomes less efficient as he gets older and stronger, a worse shooter, somehow the passing we're seeing from him gets worse as he plays more and his teammates improve.


Somehow to you, B seems more likely than A?

I don't know. I don't have a crystal ball. It isn't clear to me that he is an elite talent on offense or that he will become a perenial 28+PPG scorer on offense. I was watching Luka on offense in his rookie year and I immediately understood that he is a generational talent on offense. He might become the next Jordan at 7ft 4 and eviscerate the league but it seems just people were accusing of posting too prematurely about my concerns it seems that a lot of posters are going the other extreme posting stats over a meaningless 8 game sample at the end of the regular season when the team is 11-48.

Your concerns didn't make sense though, he was playing out of position at the 4, it was very obvious that ultimately his long term position was C. The start of the season when you made this thread they were playing a PF at PG, and Wemby at the 4 next to a 5. You don't need a crystal ball to understand that he can get stronger and it takes away putting smaller guys on him, you could do that to Kristaps early in his career, you can't do that to him now, and that will be true for Victor as well. The reason teams do that is because they want their C closer to the rim, and because most C's cannot guard him off the dribble. What happens when that option is completely removed from the table? Whether it's because he's surrounded by better shooters so your C will be outside anyway, or because he's too strong for a wing to defend?

I think with his aggression, IQ and overall skillset he's going to be a 30ppg scorer in the future. He's going to present a lot of the same problems that Giannis does, except he can shoot. It's easier to tell what a guard/wing will be like Luka, with young bigs like this you need to understand that part of their development does rest on their bodies improving.

[Miami_Lux]

what about his three point shooting percentage?

I see what we are doing. I'll make sure to post his stats over an 8 game downswing. Good job.

Can you point to a bust/disappointing player who put up those kinds of stats over an 8-game stretch?

Actually, can you point to any player who put up those kinds of stats over an 8-game stretch?

I never said he was going to be a bust. Please read mmy OP again

[Bornstellar]

So now it's a meaningless sample at the end of the regular season. you just can't win with some people man. Victor could drop a quintuple double tomorrow and someone would still find something to complain about

[ShootersShoot]

So now it's a meaningless sample at the end of the regular season. you just can't win with some people man. Victor could drop a quintuple double tomorrow and someone would still find something to complain about

Then:
"Now I understand he is on a bad team without a PG..."

Now:
"He's putting up stats on a bad team.."

I'm not even sure why anyone is bothering to doubt at the moment. If one cannot see the type of talent Wemby is, then there's no helping that person, they just do not have an eye for talent.

[Slimjimzv]

It looks like Wemby is going to make it in the NBA. No need to be concerned.

[ShootersShoot]

Wembanyama last 8 games

30.4mpg
24.6ppg (on 62.6 TS%)
11.8rpg
5.4apg
2.4spg
5.4bpg
3.3topg
+47


Been on an absolute tear.

what about his three point shooting percentage?

I see what we are doing. I'll make sure to post his stats over an 8 game downswing. Good job.

How about the last 30:
Mpg 27.6
PPG: 23.2
FG% 50
3pt% 38
FT% 84.5
TS% 61
RPG: 9.9
APG: 4
STL 1.3
BLK 3.7

Feel free to post next time Wemby has a bad 30 game stretch : )

[tcheco]

what about his three point shooting percentage?

I see what we are doing. I'll make sure to post his stats over an 8 game downswing. Good job.

How about the last 30:
Mpg 27.6
PPG: 23.2
FG% 50
3pt% 38
FT% 84.5
TS% 61
RPG: 9.9
APG: 4
STL 1.3
BLK 3.7

Feel free to post next time Wemby has a bad 30 game stretch : )

It's hard to deal with people that just don't want to be called out for being wrong. They move the posts to try and prove they are not wrong instead of looking at things objectively and admitting defeat

[docholliday99]

I can't recall a player that has come in with the level of hype that Wemby has had and hasn't crumbled under the weight. Just looking at his averages per month, you can see the growth and you can see him starting to get up to the speed of the NBA game. It reminds me of watching Jordan his first year and then Lebron, just can't really fathom the level of dominance they were bringing on both ends of the court; and what Wemby is doing is on that level. TBH, I'm at a bit of a loss to even describe it accurately without sounding like a Stan, I certainly didn't believe he would be doing what he's doing so quickly. Can you Imagine what his numbers would look like if he actually played on a good team or even with a true PG?

Instead of tearing it down, why not sit back and just enjoy watching what he's doing?

Oct - 4 gp, 27.2 mpg, 16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.5 apg, 1.5 spg, 2.3 bpg, 46/26.3/70
Nov - 14 gp, 30.8 mpg, 20.1 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 2.9 apg, 1.3 spg, 2.9 bpg, 43.3/27.3/87.5
Dec - 10 gp, 28.6 mpg, 18.1 ppg, 11.4 rpg, 3.7 apg, 1.1 spg, 3.8 bpg, 45.3/33.3/73.3
Jan - 14 gp, 26.7 mpg, 24.0 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 3.3 apg, 0.9 spg, 3.3 bpg, 50.6/32.4/83.1
Feb - 12 gp, 28.9 mpg, 21.3 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 4.5 apg, 2.0 spg, 3.9 bpg, 47.4/41.3/83.1

[AmusingFiddle]

He is certainly a great talent.

I wonder how does he compares from a ratio perspective to the metrics of past years? Offensive numbers, overall, are off the charts compared to where they were 10-20 years ago.

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[Miami_Lux]

I see what we are doing. I'll make sure to post his stats over an 8 game downswing. Good job.

How about the last 30:
Mpg 27.6
PPG: 23.2
FG% 50
3pt% 38
FT% 84.5
TS% 61
RPG: 9.9
APG: 4
STL 1.3
BLK 3.7

Feel free to post next time Wemby has a bad 30 game stretch : )

It's hard to deal with people that just don't want to be called out for being wrong. They move the posts to try and prove they are not wrong instead of looking at things objectively and admitting defeat

I already said that Wemby has improved his efficiency. My original post had other concerns that were not centered around his efficiency. Yes his stats are looking great right now.

But preemptively I will do the walk of shame through the town square and repent on my blasphemous actions to have concerns about Wemby. I will be a renewed man no doubt.

And soon I will join the Wemby stan group on RealGM and hail our new and victorious leader with all the glory he deserves.

Should the Spurs go on an epic 3-game winning streak there is no doubt in my mind Wemby will be the next 7ft4 Michael Jordan

[DwayneSchintzus]

Wembanyama last 8 games

30.4mpg
24.6ppg (on 62.6 TS%)
11.8rpg
5.4apg
2.4spg
5.4bpg
3.3topg
+47


Been on an absolute tear.

what about his three point shooting percentage?

I see what we are doing. I'll make sure to post his stats over an 8 game downswing. Good job.

my question was directed at zimpy, who's been on this thing about him never becoming a good three point shooter.

if it makes you feel any better i had greg oden over durant in 2007 haha

i'm not trying to drag you, homie.

[zimpy27]

Wembanyama last 8 games

30.4mpg
24.6ppg (on 62.6 TS%)
11.8rpg
5.4apg
2.4spg
5.4bpg
3.3topg
+47


Been on an absolute tear.

what about his three point shooting percentage?

I see what we are doing. I'll make sure to post his stats over an 8 game downswing. Good job.

The 8 games are to highlight the extremely impressive stretch of games.

No one is expecting him to keep up this level of play now. But at some point it's possible he does.

[zimpy27]

what about his three point shooting percentage?

I see what we are doing. I'll make sure to post his stats over an 8 game downswing. Good job.

my question was directed at zimpy, who's been on this thing about him never becoming a good three point shooter.

if it makes you feel any better i had greg oden over durant in 2007 haha

i'm not trying to drag you, homie.

Oh were you? I didn't catch that.

I said it's very unlikely that he becomes an above league average 3% shooter. So he shouldn't put so much emphasis on outside scoring.

And I think you will see that as he fills out more the 3 will be de-emphasised. It's just far more impactful for him to be near the rim.

[arifgokcen]

I can't recall a player that has come in with the level of hype that Wemby has had and hasn't crumbled under the weight. Just looking at his averages per month, you can see the growth and you can see him starting to get up to the speed of the NBA game. It reminds me of watching Jordan his first year and then Lebron, just can't really fathom the level of dominance they were bringing on both ends of the court; and what Wemby is doing is on that level. TBH, I'm at a bit of a loss to even describe it accurately without sounding like a Stan, I certainly didn't believe he would be doing what he's doing so quickly. Can you Imagine what his numbers would look like if he actually played on a good team or even with a true PG?

Instead of tearing it down, why not sit back and just enjoy watching what he's doing?

Oct - 4 gp, 27.2 mpg, 16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 1.5 apg, 1.5 spg, 2.3 bpg, 46/26.3/70
Nov - 14 gp, 30.8 mpg, 20.1 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 2.9 apg, 1.3 spg, 2.9 bpg, 43.3/27.3/87.5
Dec - 10 gp, 28.6 mpg, 18.1 ppg, 11.4 rpg, 3.7 apg, 1.1 spg, 3.8 bpg, 45.3/33.3/73.3
Jan - 14 gp, 26.7 mpg, 24.0 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 3.3 apg, 0.9 spg, 3.3 bpg, 50.6/32.4/83.1
Feb - 12 gp, 28.9 mpg, 21.3 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 4.5 apg, 2.0 spg, 3.9 bpg, 47.4/41.3/83.1

I am lucky enough to watch Jordan through his title years then lebron. This kid literally feels like he can be better than both. Level of dominance on defensive end is just outrageous. They dont even try a layup near the rim when he is around.

TBH Jokic Luka Embiid are doing some ridiculous things however since 2020 Lakers i didnt enjoy watching games till now. Watched the last 5 games. The Kid is gonna be absolute menace on both ends in a year or two and i cant fathom what he can accomplish in his prime

I think he can easily get 35-15-8-3-5.

League is better than ever in terms of overall talent however Wemby is one of a kind. My 96 year old grandma heard about him. Its that crazy level of hype he has. NBA needs that kind of a player.

[ryguy613]

[jkvonny]

This thread is going another 15 years

Poor guy.

This thread will go on for years!


At least hundreds of pages long.

He's gonna get tons of notifications.

I don t see the problem with my original post. I didn't say he was going to be a bust. Admittedly he has improved a lot in terms of shooting efficiency and overall offensive game. Plus I am impressed by his passing game which actually seems to go under the radar here. Defensively he is already elite due to length and extreme agility/mobility.

I'm still not sure whether his offensive game will ever be elite. He is putting up stats on a garbage team with no expectations to win and a green light to do whatever he wants, in a league that has inflated scoring by restricting what offenses can do.

Ok, I see.

Ya, we are a garbage team, but not for long within a few more years!

BTW, we have been a lot more competitive lately and just finished beating 2 playoff teams back to back (OKC, Pacers)
Also, lots of games haven't been garbage tme. We nearly beat the Lakers (play in team) again not too long ago in a close game, Wemby put up a 5x5.