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Post#201 » by Jesus Juice » Tue Mar 5, 2024 4:14 pm

Ray Williams wrote:Mitch is out since 12/8/23, OG since 1/27.
11/30/23 we lead the league in defense, points allowed, much of the credit going to Mitch.
12/30/23 without Mitch we slide to 12th.
1/31/24 with OG and still no Mitch we climb back up to 2nd!
2/29/24 we drop down to 4th without OG or Mitch.
3/5/24 we sit at 3rd.
I can only imagine what this team will look like with Mitch and OG back, and add to that Deuce is now getting more minutes.
I have always wanted us to build through defense first and THIS team, is perfect!
We are going to destroy teams defensively once everyone is healthy.
I have more hope in this team winning a championship than any other Knick team I’ve seen, and I’m 62.



My hope is we get enough games in to earn the defensive respect back before playoffs. In my opinion we get away with a lot on the defensive end cause of reputation (we still do with our best defenders out), I hope we get the band back together, lock some teams down before the postseason, and put officials on notice to let us play our game.
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Post#202 » by BKlutch » Tue Mar 5, 2024 4:56 pm

Ray Williams wrote:Mitch is out since 12/8/23, OG since 1/27.
11/30/23 we lead the league in defense, points allowed, much of the credit going to Mitch.
12/30/23 without Mitch we slide to 12th.
1/31/24 with OG and still no Mitch we climb back up to 2nd!
2/29/24 we drop down to 4th without OG or Mitch.
3/5/24 we sit at 3rd.
I can only imagine what this team will look like with Mitch and OG back, and add to that Deuce is now getting more minutes.
I have always wanted us to build through defense first and THIS team, is perfect!
We are going to destroy teams defensively once everyone is healthy.
I have more hope in this team winning a championship than any other Knick team I’ve seen, and I’m 62.

We're competitive if everyone but Mitch is back, and we should hope for it all if he's back (everyone at full strength, with enough time to play together, etc.).

I hope you get to see this, but remember: we should be even better next year.
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Post#203 » by RHODEY » Tue Mar 5, 2024 6:29 pm

Ray Williams wrote:Mitch is out since 12/8/23, OG since 1/27.
11/30/23 we lead the league in defense, points allowed, much of the credit going to Mitch.
12/30/23 without Mitch we slide to 12th.
1/31/24 with OG and still no Mitch we climb back up to 2nd!
2/29/24 we drop down to 4th without OG or Mitch.
3/5/24 we sit at 3rd.
I can only imagine what this team will look like with Mitch and OG back, and add to that Deuce is now getting more minutes.
I have always wanted us to build through defense first and THIS team, is perfect!
We are going to destroy teams defensively once everyone is healthy.
I have more hope in this team winning a championship than any other Knick team I’ve seen, and I’m 62.


Solid post. I've mentioned the same before. The combination of having Mitch and OG on the floor at the same time could possibly be a cheat code to an NBA championship ...assuming our other pieces are healthy.
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Post#204 » by sol537 » Tue Mar 5, 2024 6:54 pm

RHODEY wrote:
Ray Williams wrote:Mitch is out since 12/8/23, OG since 1/27.
11/30/23 we lead the league in defense, points allowed, much of the credit going to Mitch.
12/30/23 without Mitch we slide to 12th.
1/31/24 with OG and still no Mitch we climb back up to 2nd!
2/29/24 we drop down to 4th without OG or Mitch.
3/5/24 we sit at 3rd.
I can only imagine what this team will look like with Mitch and OG back, and add to that Deuce is now getting more minutes.
I have always wanted us to build through defense first and THIS team, is perfect!
We are going to destroy teams defensively once everyone is healthy.
I have more hope in this team winning a championship than any other Knick team I’ve seen, and I’m 62.


Solid post. I've mentioned the same before. The combination of having Mitch and OG on the floor at the same time could possibly be a cheat code to an NBA championship ...assuming our other pieces are healthy.


Mitch has trouble against stretch bigs like KP, though. But I see your point... also, dude has to fix his free throw shooting or teams won't let him stay on the floor in crunch time.
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Post#205 » by RHODEY » Tue Mar 5, 2024 7:22 pm

sol537 wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Ray Williams wrote:Mitch is out since 12/8/23, OG since 1/27.
11/30/23 we lead the league in defense, points allowed, much of the credit going to Mitch.
12/30/23 without Mitch we slide to 12th.
1/31/24 with OG and still no Mitch we climb back up to 2nd!
2/29/24 we drop down to 4th without OG or Mitch.
3/5/24 we sit at 3rd.
I can only imagine what this team will look like with Mitch and OG back, and add to that Deuce is now getting more minutes.
I have always wanted us to build through defense first and THIS team, is perfect!
We are going to destroy teams defensively once everyone is healthy.
I have more hope in this team winning a championship than any other Knick team I’ve seen, and I’m 62.


Solid post. I've mentioned the same before. The combination of having Mitch and OG on the floor at the same time could possibly be a cheat code to an NBA championship ...assuming our other pieces are healthy.


Mitch has trouble against stretch bigs like KP, though. But I see your point... also, dude has to fix his free throw shooting or teams won't let him stay on the floor in crunch time.

Right I said could, There are not many stretch bigs of Kp's quality and the rest (like Turner)have issues with Mitch. Also KP's health is still a huge question mark.
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Post#206 » by stuporman » Tue Mar 5, 2024 7:22 pm

If everyone comes back healthy for the playoffs the depth chart would likely be:

iHart/Mitch
Randle/Precious
OG/Hart
Divo/Hart
Brunson/Deuce

Knowing Thibs he only goes 9 deep in the playoffs so Shake probably doesn't get anything but 'situational' spot mins... I don't see Burps getting off the bench. Precious gets mins because he's proven to be so impactful and Bogie gets some mins to shoot it against back ups.

I'm not too concerned about building chemistry as long as the guys coming back have enough time to get in game shape, this group seemed to find their roles and play them well pretty quickly. Obviously the most likely to be out of game shape is Mitch, we just hope they can hit the playoffs healthy and in stride.
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Post#207 » by drekwins » Tue Mar 5, 2024 8:00 pm

sol537 wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Ray Williams wrote:Mitch is out since 12/8/23, OG since 1/27.
11/30/23 we lead the league in defense, points allowed, much of the credit going to Mitch.
12/30/23 without Mitch we slide to 12th.
1/31/24 with OG and still no Mitch we climb back up to 2nd!
2/29/24 we drop down to 4th without OG or Mitch.
3/5/24 we sit at 3rd.
I can only imagine what this team will look like with Mitch and OG back, and add to that Deuce is now getting more minutes.
I have always wanted us to build through defense first and THIS team, is perfect!
We are going to destroy teams defensively once everyone is healthy.
I have more hope in this team winning a championship than any other Knick team I’ve seen, and I’m 62.


Solid post. I've mentioned the same before. The combination of having Mitch and OG on the floor at the same time could possibly be a cheat code to an NBA championship ...assuming our other pieces are healthy.


Mitch has trouble against stretch bigs like KP, though. But I see your point... also, dude has to fix his free throw shooting or teams won't let him stay on the floor in crunch time.


Boston is going to be a nightmare for everyone. Our only hope against them is to play very physical and run them off the 3pt line. No second chance opportunities. We have to play a clean game as well.. no turnovers or bad decision making. And then, we have to hit shots. There is zero margin for error.

Boston has built something very lethal and is a problem for every team in the NBA. To defend them, they have to have their timing thrown off, catch the ball in odd spots, and just generally, make them uncomfortable. Boston aside though, our defense looks good.
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Post#208 » by Juco24 » Tue Mar 5, 2024 8:11 pm

stuporman wrote:If everyone comes back healthy for the playoffs the depth chart would likely be:

iHart/Mitch
Randle/Precious
OG/Bogie
Divo/Shake
Brunson/Deuce

Knowing Thibs he only goes 9 deep in the playoffs so Shake probably doesn't get anything but 'situational' spot mins... I don't see Burps getting off the bench. Precious gets mins because he's proven to be so impactful and Bogie gets some mins to shoot it against back ups.

I'm not too concerned about building chemistry as long as the guys coming back have enough time to get in game shape, this group seemed to find their roles and play them well pretty quickly. Obviously the most likely to be out of game shape is Mitch, we just hope they can hit the playoffs healthy and in stride.


Someone is clearly missing... don't know how you can exclude the Heart of the team
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Post#209 » by RHODEY » Tue Mar 5, 2024 8:20 pm

drekwins wrote:
sol537 wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Solid post. I've mentioned the same before. The combination of having Mitch and OG on the floor at the same time could possibly be a cheat code to an NBA championship ...assuming our other pieces are healthy.


Mitch has trouble against stretch bigs like KP, though. But I see your point... also, dude has to fix his free throw shooting or teams won't let him stay on the floor in crunch time.


Boston is going to be a nightmare for everyone. Our only hope against them is to play very physical and run them off the 3pt line. No second chance opportunities. We have to play a clean game as well.. no turnovers or bad decision making. And then, we have to hit shots. There is zero margin for error.

Boston has built something very lethal and is a problem for every team in the NBA. To defend them, they have to have their timing thrown off, catch the ball in odd spots, and just generally, make them uncomfortable. Boston aside though, our defense looks good.


I'm not going to concede an inferior position to them them until we play them fully healthy. Sure they are ..very very good, but in January so were we. Add in the additional seasoning of our bench unit and Mitch Robinson and we could be on equal ground.
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Post#210 » by stuporman » Tue Mar 5, 2024 8:21 pm

Juco24 wrote:
stuporman wrote:If everyone comes back healthy for the playoffs the depth chart would likely be:

iHart/Mitch
Randle/Precious
OG/Bogie
Divo/Shake
Brunson/Deuce

Knowing Thibs he only goes 9 deep in the playoffs so Shake probably doesn't get anything but 'situational' spot mins... I don't see Burps getting off the bench. Precious gets mins because he's proven to be so impactful and Bogie gets some mins to shoot it against back ups.

I'm not too concerned about building chemistry as long as the guys coming back have enough time to get in game shape, this group seemed to find their roles and play them well pretty quickly. Obviously the most likely to be out of game shape is Mitch, we just hope they can hit the playoffs healthy and in stride.


Someone is clearly missing... don't know how you can exclude the Heart of the team


Dam, I knew I was missing someone but I was splitting my time writing that and preparing my late breakfast so was partially distracted...what a miss :lol:

I guess that means Shake gets no mins and Bogie barely gets on the floor. I still think Precious is in it because he has worked his way into Thibs circle of trust.

Could this be the year Thibs actually goes 10 deep in the playoffs more consistently? Nah....but maybe.
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Post#211 » by Juco24 » Tue Mar 5, 2024 8:38 pm

stuporman wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
stuporman wrote:If everyone comes back healthy for the playoffs the depth chart would likely be:

iHart/Mitch
Randle/Precious
OG/Bogie
Divo/Shake
Brunson/Deuce

Knowing Thibs he only goes 9 deep in the playoffs so Shake probably doesn't get anything but 'situational' spot mins... I don't see Burps getting off the bench. Precious gets mins because he's proven to be so impactful and Bogie gets some mins to shoot it against back ups.

I'm not too concerned about building chemistry as long as the guys coming back have enough time to get in game shape, this group seemed to find their roles and play them well pretty quickly. Obviously the most likely to be out of game shape is Mitch, we just hope they can hit the playoffs healthy and in stride.


Someone is clearly missing... don't know how you can exclude the Heart of the team


Dam, I knew I was missing someone but I was splitting my time writing that and preparing my late breakfast so was partially distracted...what a miss :lol:

I guess that means Shake gets no mins and Bogie barely gets on the floor. I still think Precious is in it because he has worked his way into Thibs circle of trust.

Could this be the year Thibs actually goes 10 deep in the playoffs more consistently? Nah....but maybe.


Lol... now I agree. Also, I'm thinking and hoping Thibs will use Precious as C in a small ball lineup some. One thing should be for certain... Burks should not be in the rotation
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Post#212 » by stuporman » Tue Mar 5, 2024 9:04 pm

Juco24 wrote:
stuporman wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
Someone is clearly missing... don't know how you can exclude the Heart of the team


Dam, I knew I was missing someone but I was splitting my time writing that and preparing my late breakfast so was partially distracted...what a miss :lol:

I guess that means Shake gets no mins and Bogie barely gets on the floor. I still think Precious is in it because he has worked his way into Thibs circle of trust.

Could this be the year Thibs actually goes 10 deep in the playoffs more consistently? Nah....but maybe.


Lol... now I agree. Also, I'm thinking and hoping Thibs will use Precious as C in a small ball lineup some. One thing should be for certain... Burks should not be in the rotation


I suspect that Precious will be used as a small ball C at times but it surely will be match up dependent since I'm not sure how many teams the Knicks might meet in the playoffs will be right for it.
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Post#213 » by sol537 » Tue Mar 5, 2024 9:19 pm

stuporman wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
stuporman wrote:
Dam, I knew I was missing someone but I was splitting my time writing that and preparing my late breakfast so was partially distracted...what a miss :lol:

I guess that means Shake gets no mins and Bogie barely gets on the floor. I still think Precious is in it because he has worked his way into Thibs circle of trust.

Could this be the year Thibs actually goes 10 deep in the playoffs more consistently? Nah....but maybe.


Lol... now I agree. Also, I'm thinking and hoping Thibs will use Precious as C in a small ball lineup some. One thing should be for certain... Burks should not be in the rotation


I suspect that Precious will be used as a small ball C at times but it surely will be match up dependent since I'm not sure how many teams the Knicks might meet in the playoffs will be right for it.


I'm hoping for at least 9 to play but I think a lot of Precious vs. Bogs will depend on match-ups.

iHart / Randle / OG / DDV / Brunson getting the bulk of the minutes. Mitch, Hart and McBride getting the bench minutes. Precious or Bogs sneak some back-up PF minutes here and there. If Mitch gets in foul trouble or is not effective, then Precious takes his minutes.

There's flexibility and hopefully no one complains too much... :D
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Post#214 » by stuporman » Tue Mar 5, 2024 9:28 pm

sol537 wrote:
stuporman wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
Lol... now I agree. Also, I'm thinking and hoping Thibs will use Precious as C in a small ball lineup some. One thing should be for certain... Burks should not be in the rotation


I suspect that Precious will be used as a small ball C at times but it surely will be match up dependent since I'm not sure how many teams the Knicks might meet in the playoffs will be right for it.


I'm hoping for at least 9 to play but I think a lot of Precious vs. Bogs will depend on match-ups.

iHart / Randle / OG / DDV / Brunson getting the bulk of the minutes. Mitch, Hart and McBride getting the bench minutes. Precious or Bogs sneak some back-up PF minutes here and there. If Mitch gets in foul trouble or is not effective, then Precious takes his minutes.

There's flexibility and hopefully no one complains too much... :D


The players probably won't complain too much but fans...yea, they complain too much no matter what so that hope would be dashed quickly...
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Post#215 » by stuporman » Wed Mar 6, 2024 12:15 am

Edited my previous depth chart post for accuracy.... :rofl:
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Post#216 » by Yeezus_ » Wed Mar 6, 2024 2:01 pm

Rooting for yall. When’s OG back? Any legitimate timelines?
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Post#217 » by FrozenEnvelope » Wed Mar 6, 2024 2:13 pm

Couldn't Leon have also signed Delon Wright and Mills to replace Brown, Jeffries and Washington at the end of the bench?
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Post#218 » by drekwins » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:06 pm

RHODEY wrote:
drekwins wrote:
sol537 wrote:
Mitch has trouble against stretch bigs like KP, though. But I see your point... also, dude has to fix his free throw shooting or teams won't let him stay on the floor in crunch time.


Boston is going to be a nightmare for everyone. Our only hope against them is to play very physical and run them off the 3pt line. No second chance opportunities. We have to play a clean game as well.. no turnovers or bad decision making. And then, we have to hit shots. There is zero margin for error.

Boston has built something very lethal and is a problem for every team in the NBA. To defend them, they have to have their timing thrown off, catch the ball in odd spots, and just generally, make them uncomfortable. Boston aside though, our defense looks good.


I'm not going to concede an inferior position to them them until we play them fully healthy. Sure they are ..very very good, but in January so were we. Add in the additional seasoning of our bench unit and Mitch Robinson and we could be on equal ground.


I don't do so gleefully. The facts are the facts. They're winning by a differential of over 11 points per game. They're 29-3 at home. 48-13 overall. Beating playoff and hot teams by 50+ points. #3 in ppg. #4 in opponents ppg. #1 in rebounds. #2 in blocks. They dont foul. They commit the second fewest fouls in the league. They're #4 in 3pt percentage. #1 in offensive rating. #2 in defensive rating. #4 in turnover percentage. #2 in true shooting percentage and effective shooting percentage.

In summary, they are great shooters. They play a very clean game. They dominate the glass. They are ELITE, if not the best, at both ends of the floor. This isnt sucking up to them. They have proved it and the stats prove it.

To those that prefer the eye test, they are tall, long, fast and just as dominant.

AND, don't forget, this is a new roster. They are A LOT better now than they were in October. They are dominant in every sense of the word. As I mentioned previously, the only way to beat them is to disrupt their rhythm and run then off the 3pt line.
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Post#219 » by robillionaire » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:21 pm

drekwins wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
drekwins wrote:
Boston is going to be a nightmare for everyone. Our only hope against them is to play very physical and run them off the 3pt line. No second chance opportunities. We have to play a clean game as well.. no turnovers or bad decision making. And then, we have to hit shots. There is zero margin for error.

Boston has built something very lethal and is a problem for every team in the NBA. To defend them, they have to have their timing thrown off, catch the ball in odd spots, and just generally, make them uncomfortable. Boston aside though, our defense looks good.


I'm not going to concede an inferior position to them them until we play them fully healthy. Sure they are ..very very good, but in January so were we. Add in the additional seasoning of our bench unit and Mitch Robinson and we could be on equal ground.


I don't do so gleefully. The facts are the facts. They're winning by a differential of over 11 points per game. They're 29-3 at home. 48-13 overall. Beating playoff and hot teams by 50+ points. #3 in ppg. #4 in opponents ppg. #1 in rebounds. #2 in blocks. They dont foul. They commit the second fewest fouls in the league. They're #4 in 3pt percentage. #1 in offensive rating. #2 in defensive rating. #4 in turnover percentage. #2 in true shooting percentage and effective shooting percentage.

In summary, they are great shooters. They play a very clean game. They dominate the glass. They are ELITE, if not the best, at both ends of the floor. This isnt sucking up to them. They have proved it and the stats prove it.

To those that prefer the eye test, they are tall, long, fast and just as dominant.

AND, don't forget, this is a new roster. They are A LOT better now than they were in October. They are dominant in every sense of the word. As I mentioned previously, the only way to beat them is to disrupt their rhythm and run then off the 3pt line.


The regular season is the regular season. #1 seed Bucks lost to the 8th seed last year as did Boston. They still have to get it done in the playoffs

Jrue put them over the top though. I still maintain we should have traded for Jrue as opposed to letting them get him.
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Post#220 » by Ray Williams » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:23 pm

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sol537 wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Solid post. I've mentioned the same before. The combination of having Mitch and OG on the floor at the same time could possibly be a cheat code to an NBA championship ...assuming our other pieces are healthy.


Mitch has trouble against stretch bigs like KP, though. But I see your point... also, dude has to fix his free throw shooting or teams won't let him stay on the floor in crunch time.


Boston is going to be a nightmare for everyone. Our only hope against them is to play very physical and run them off the 3pt line. No second chance opportunities. We have to play a clean game as well.. no turnovers or bad decision making. And then, we have to hit shots. There is zero margin for error.

Boston has built something very lethal and is a problem for every team in the NBA. To defend them, they have to have their timing thrown off, catch the ball in odd spots, and just generally, make them uncomfortable. Boston aside though, our defense looks good.

Against Boston, I wouldn’t have any of our centers guarding KP, when we had him, Boston put Marcus Smart on him and he shrunk more than his manhood in an ice bath. I would put Josh Hart on him and let Josh drive him crazy.
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