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Re: Even The Celts Cavn't Figured Out How to Win Em All! Loss vs CLE 3/5 

Post#61 » by Fierce1 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:18 am

Nah!

The Cs needed this loss.

This reminds them they're not there yet.

Besides, nobody here dared to say the Cs were going 5-0 in this 5-game stretch.

This is actually not a bad thing.
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Re: Even The Celts Cavn't Figured Out How to Win Em All! Loss vs CLE 3/5 

Post#62 » by GrandTheftRondo » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:18 am

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Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:Flame me if you want, but the amount of times Joe has mentioned trying things and wanting adversity says to me he is managing these games very differently to how he would in the playoffs. Clutch reps is important and we came up short. Very valuable to happen here and not in the playoffs with time to still learn.

Leaving in Kornet etc so long probably part of that.

Joe is not managing these to lose, but he is not doing everything to win games in isolation and wants close game practice.

Convenient.

Blow a 20 point lead in one quarter. Give up something like a 20-3 run. "Wants close game practice" lol

I don’t think a coach is deliberately looking for a close game.

But I also think we are going to see the coach try things and not try certain things with our massive lead over the rest of the conference.

No idea if that lineup to start the fourth was trying something out or just a strange old coaching move.
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Post#63 » by Fencer reregistered » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:19 am

Kalela wrote:Joe basically lost the game. Horrible lineup with two bigs that made no sense at all. He outsmarts himself too much this guy. They had a 22 point lead.


+/- in the box score disagrees with you.

Also: Do detailed stats show that Jrue attempted to defend Wade and got torched by him? That's the guess from +/-.
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Re: Even The Celts Cavn't Figured Out How to Win Em All! Loss vs CLE 3/5 

Post#64 » by Green89 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:19 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:
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I really need Brad Stevens to call a timeout and set up a play.


But what about the poster who claimed he was great in the clutch?? And the one who believes everyone is overreacting to blown last possessions? They know more than the numbers prove?

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Re: Even The Celts Cavn't Figured Out How to Win Em All! Loss vs CLE 3/5 

Post#65 » by RB34 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:20 am

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RB34 wrote:Another game lost because the bozo coach refuses to call a timeout.

I’ve seen this movie before and I do not like it.

The game was lost because the Celtics played awful defence in the fourth and refused to move the ball.

I don’t see how a timeout changes that.

At some point surely these players have to take some credit for these awful collapses??


Why wouldn’t you take a timeout while you’re blowing the 20 point lead to get their heads back in the game. Joe seems content on letting things ride out to see if they can figure it out. They can’t. That’s where coaching comes in.
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Post#66 » by GrandTheftRondo » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:21 am

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RB34 wrote:Another game lost because the bozo coach refuses to call a timeout.

I’ve seen this movie before and I do not like it.

The game was lost because the Celtics played awful defence in the fourth and refused to move the ball.

I don’t see how a timeout changes that.

At some point surely these players have to take some credit for these awful collapses??


Why wouldn’t you take a timeout while you’re blowing the 20 point lead to get their heads back in the game. Joe seems content on letting things ride out to see if they can figure it out. They can’t. That’s where coaching comes in.

Some coaches don’t use them in that way.

Phil Jackson never used timeouts like that either.

Everybody has different philosophies.

Mazzulla clearly wants to empower his players to play through bad periods. People don’t agree with it on here, whatever. That’s just how Mazzulla views timeouts.

He’s not going to change. Scream about it all you want.

I’m more pissed that Tatum and co continually create the same garbage offence late in games. This goes back to Brad Stevens last year coaching. We don’t have smart players late in games.
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Post#67 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:21 am

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zoyathedestroya wrote:It's not the loss. It's only our 13th after all. Some fans are reacting this way because of how we lost and how it can project in postseason scenarios. This loss was 98% avoidable. In a playoff series, you win the avoidable losses. To give yourself some leeway when you do lose the unavoidable ones.


Exactly. Thanks for speaking up for those in the know. The rest may come around one day.

I'm as green a greenteamer as one can get, but the concerns will remain until we actually win a chip. Probably asking too much when I say we need to be near perfect in the postseason to get through everyone. I'm thinking maybe they learn from this, but it's not the first time this happened. Isn't this exactly how we lost game 4 against the Sixers? We had 19 seconds, down 1. Tatum and Smart took their time bringing down the ball and weirdly set up for a final shot instead of going quick or calling timeout.
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Post#68 » by PierceFan4ever » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:22 am

What I don’t get for years in close games…we change our style of play instead of playing fast like we normally do I see Tatum get the ball in the back court and move as slow as possible, shot clock would be at 10 and then he starts dribbling going nowhere with the ball and then settles for a tough shot or low impact pass to a player not even open because he killed way too much clock to have more ball movement involved. It’s a **** joke that JT still hasn’t learned how to play smarter late in close games. Team isn’t clutch defensively either let’s not forget, JB falling asleep on the hottest player in the game for a wide open three, holiday not boxing out watching once again Wade score a putback.

Tatum and the Celtics need to be better in the clutch. Not every playoff game are we going to blow teams and a lot of these playoff games will be close. Figure this crap out now, Mazzulla especially needs to **** stop being a dick and call his timeouts
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Post#69 » by Ben-N1ce » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:23 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:
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I really need Brad Stevens to call a timeout and set up a play.

Celtics havent taken 22 shots in the last seconds of a game down 3 or less in the 4th and OT...no chance.
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Post#70 » by Fencer reregistered » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:24 am

Other than us and whoever got screwed in betting, nobody should be unhappier about this loss than Denver.
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Post#71 » by Hal14 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:24 am

RB34 wrote:
GrandTheftRondo wrote:
RB34 wrote:Another game lost because the bozo coach refuses to call a timeout.

I’ve seen this movie before and I do not like it.

The game was lost because the Celtics played awful defence in the fourth and refused to move the ball.

I don’t see how a timeout changes that.

At some point surely these players have to take some credit for these awful collapses??


Why wouldn’t you take a timeout while you’re blowing the 20 point lead to get their heads back in the game. Joe seems content on letting things ride out to see if they can figure it out. They can’t. That’s where coaching comes in.

It's crazy how many people on the internet think that the only thing that NBA coaches are supposed to do is call timeout if their team gets in the slightest bit of trouble and that those timeouts will magically make things better every time...and that teams get an endless supply of timeouts so that coaches can call them anytime fans think they should..

Edit: this is good natured ribbing. Not trying to be confrontational :)
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Post#72 » by Sweet Serenity » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:26 am

I can’t wait till we win the championship so I can look back to this on March 5th & have a good chuckle at the hysteria that came from this loss
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Post#73 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:27 am

Ben-N1ce wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:
Read on Twitter

I really need Brad Stevens to call a timeout and set up a play.

Celtics havent taken 22 shots in the last seconds of a game down 3 or less in the 4th and OT...no chance.

Quick lookup...

Per nba.com, it's 1/10 when behind by 3 or less with 10 secs or under to go in the 4th/OT. Not sure where tweeter got his numbers.
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Post#74 » by Hal14 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:28 am

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Post#75 » by Bar Fight » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:30 am

Hal14 wrote:
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Read on Twitter


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The whistle blew and stopped the clock. Tatum left no time for a KP put back
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Post#76 » by RB34 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:30 am

Hal14 wrote:
RB34 wrote:
GrandTheftRondo wrote:The game was lost because the Celtics played awful defence in the fourth and refused to move the ball.

I don’t see how a timeout changes that.

At some point surely these players have to take some credit for these awful collapses??


Why wouldn’t you take a timeout while you’re blowing the 20 point lead to get their heads back in the game. Joe seems content on letting things ride out to see if they can figure it out. They can’t. That’s where coaching comes in.

It's crazy how many people on the internet think that the only thing that NBA coaches are supposed to do is call timeout if their team gets in the slightest bit of trouble and that those timeouts will magically make things better every time.


I’m under no illusion that they’re a magic pill. But if you have an opportunity to use them why not?
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Post#77 » by Ben-N1ce » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:31 am

GrandTheftRondo wrote:
RB34 wrote:
GrandTheftRondo wrote:The game was lost because the Celtics played awful defence in the fourth and refused to move the ball.

I don’t see how a timeout changes that.

At some point surely these players have to take some credit for these awful collapses??


Why wouldn’t you take a timeout while you’re blowing the 20 point lead to get their heads back in the game. Joe seems content on letting things ride out to see if they can figure it out. They can’t. That’s where coaching comes in.

Some coaches don’t use them in that way.

Phil Jackson never used timeouts like that either.

Everybody has different philosophies.

Mazzulla clearly wants to empower his players to play through bad periods. People don’t agree with it on here, whatever. That’s just how Mazzulla views timeouts.

He’s not going to change. Scream about it all you want.

I’m more pissed that Tatum and co continually create the same garbage offence late in games. This goes back to Brad Stevens last year coaching. We don’t have smart players late in games.


When I think MJ i think Tatum and when I think Phil Jackson I think Joe Mazzula..
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Post#78 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:31 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:Other than us and whoever got screwed in betting, nobody should be unhappier about this loss than Denver.

Yep, we'll be more focused for the next game. I think we're 11-1 coming off a loss this season.
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Post#79 » by PierceFan4ever » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:33 am

RB34 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
RB34 wrote:
Why wouldn’t you take a timeout while you’re blowing the 20 point lead to get their heads back in the game. Joe seems content on letting things ride out to see if they can figure it out. They can’t. That’s where coaching comes in.

It's crazy how many people on the internet think that the only thing that NBA coaches are supposed to do is call timeout if their team gets in the slightest bit of trouble and that those timeouts will magically make things better every time.


I’m under no illusion that they’re a magic pill. But if you have an opportunity to use them why not?


Not only that his no timeout crap hasn’t worked in the clutch so why not try something **** different. If not calling a timeout and letting them play and they were able to successfully score then okay fine at least it has worked before but I’m having a hard time when has this stupid ass strategy ever worked for the Celtics under Mazzulla.
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Post#80 » by Ben-N1ce » Wed Mar 6, 2024 3:33 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:
Fencer reregistered wrote:Other than us and whoever got screwed in betting, nobody should be unhappier about this loss than Denver.

Yep, we'll be more focused for the next game. I think we're 11-1 coming off a loss this season.

They lost twice in a row in like November..

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