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Re: Even The Celts Cavn't Figured Out How to Win Em All! Loss vs CLE 3/5 

Post#101 » by GrandTheftRondo » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:05 am

Derrick White having just five shots indicates to me that the offence was simply not working as it should.
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Post#102 » by Riverwalk2021 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:08 am

Mazzulla is a bum coach, but Tatum's decision-making at the end of games has to make you very concerned.
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Post#103 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:11 am

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We all know this was it right here. One timeout by Mazzulla when the Cavs cut the lead down from 22 points to 14 points to get the guys refocused again would have resulted in a win. Mazzulla decided to take 2 timeouts home with him. Must be able to return them at the end of the year for some money.
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Post#104 » by Sweet Serenity » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:13 am

You’d forget we were 48-13 with the 4th highest net rating of all time with the way you bunch whinge after a loss lol
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Post#105 » by PierceFan4ever » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:13 am

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We all know this was it right here. One timeout by Mazzulla when the Cavs cut the lead down from 22 points to 14 points to get the guys refocused again would have resulted in a win. Mazzulla decided to take 2 timeouts home with him. Must be able to return them at the end of the year for some money.


The thing is he isn’t improving with the timeout situation. He still doesn’t call them, he has no interest changing it up because he’s too stubborn
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Re: Even The Celts Cavn't Figured Out How to Win Em All! Loss vs CLE 3/5 

Post#106 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:15 am

Riverwalk2021 wrote:Mazzulla is a bum coach, but Tatum's decision-making at the end of games has to make you very concerned.


Which is funny because Tatum’s decision making can be eliminated by giving the ball to somebody else, but to do that it would take a non bum coach who actually isn’t scared to impact a game.
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Post#107 » by Green89 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:18 am

Tatum checked out after the first half.

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Post#108 » by CelticsPride18 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:20 am

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Riverwalk2021 wrote:Mazzulla is a bum coach, but Tatum's decision-making at the end of games has to make you very concerned.


Which is funny because Tatum’s decision making can be eliminated by giving the ball to somebody else, but to do that it would take a non bum coach who actually isn’t scared to impact a game.


lol look at the superstars for other teams. Lakers vs Nuggets on Saturday not a single timeout was needed to execute down the stretch or special sets by Malone. Almost every ran through Jokic. Like it or not it’s on Tatum to display high level reads in pressure moments he’s not 19 anymore.
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Post#109 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:21 am

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We all know this was it right here. One timeout by Mazzulla when the Cavs cut the lead down from 22 points to 14 points to get the guys refocused again would have resulted in a win. Mazzulla decided to take 2 timeouts home with him. Must be able to return them at the end of the year for some money.


The thing is he isn’t improving with the timeout situation. He still doesn’t call them, he has no interest changing it up because he’s too stubborn


The worst thing about it is that he doesn’t take em so that the team ‘figures it out’ and when you realize they lost a playoff game a year ago in the same exact way, it just goes to show that nobody is figuring anything out. The team isn’t learning anything from it. That’s what irritates me the most. At what point do you realize you have to baby these guys, take over and impact the game as a coach because Tatum isn’t getting it on his own?
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Post#110 » by SuperDeluxe » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:22 am

Sweet Serenity wrote:You’d forget we were 48-13 with the 4th highest net rating of all time with the way you bunch whinge after a loss lol

The dream is over.
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Post#111 » by Green89 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:24 am

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We all know this was it right here. One timeout by Mazzulla when the Cavs cut the lead down from 22 points to 14 points to get the guys refocused again would have resulted in a win. Mazzulla decided to take 2 timeouts home with him. Must be able to return them at the end of the year for some money.


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Post#112 » by BRUNiNHO91 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:26 am

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Riverwalk2021 wrote:Mazzulla is a bum coach, but Tatum's decision-making at the end of games has to make you very concerned.


Which is funny because Tatum’s decision making can be eliminated by giving the ball to somebody else, but to do that it would take a non bum coach who actually isn’t scared to impact a game.


lol look at the superstars for other teams. Lakers vs Nuggets on Saturday not a single timeout was needed to execute down the stretch or special sets by Malone. Almost every ran through Jokic. Like it or not it’s on Tatum to display high level reads in pressure moments he’s not 19 anymore.


This post dies the minute you put Tatum in the same sentence as the greatest player in basketball.

And no it’s not on Tatum..or it doesn’t have to be..at least not all the time. You had 19 seconds, Tatum struggling you can easily put the ball somewhere else.
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Re: Even The Celts Cavn't Figured Out How to Win Em All! Loss vs CLE 3/5 

Post#113 » by Green89 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:29 am

Sweet Serenity wrote:You’d forget we were 48-13 with the 4th highest net rating of all time with the way you bunch whinge after a loss lol


Keep up the "I don't read posts here and just post" narrative. You're good at that. Or the, "we're previous champs and our current record and net rating automatically means we will win it all again this year and the next" narrative. Even better at that. Or the "we just had an 11 game win streak so this 1 loss on a last possession means nothing" narrative. You're actually the best at that.
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Re: Even The Celts Cavn't Figured Out How to Win Em All! Loss vs CLE 3/5 

Post#114 » by Hal14 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:30 am

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We all know this was it right here. One timeout by Mazzulla when the Cavs cut the lead down from 22 points to 14 points to get the guys refocused again would have resulted in a win. Mazzulla decided to take 2 timeouts home with him. Must be able to return them at the end of the year for some money.


The thing is he isn’t improving with the timeout situation. He still doesn’t call them, he has no interest changing it up because he’s too stubborn

Calling timeouts is not the magical cure to everything that some of ya'll seem to think.

It's happened plenty of times this season and last season where we call a timeout and it does no good - the other team comes out of the timeout and keeps their run going.

It's also happened plenty of times where we don't call a timeout, let the guys play through it and then boom, next thing you know the C's answer back with a run - forcing the other team to burn the timeout. Then after the other team burns their timeout, we come out of the timeout and keep going on our run - since the timeout by the other team didn't magically stop our run.

Not to mention that instead of burning a timeout, often times we could just wait another 30-60 seconds or so till the next media timeout - the "boys can get refocused" then..

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/03/25/stop-or-go-as-clock-ticks-down-call-timeout-or-play-on/99629536/

Kentucky coach John Calipari said often his first instinct is to refrain from calling timeout and see what develops.

"I'd let it go and watch and then be ready to scream timeout if it looks ugly but I want them to just play on and that's what we practice," Calipari said. "I like to go home with timeouts. I like the players to work through their issues."

South Carolina coach Frank Martin said he does have a few basic end-game guidelines.

"Any time we're tied, I'm not calling a timeout. If we're down one, probably not calling a timeout," Martin said. "That's kind of the way we rehearse. If we're down three, we're going to foul, inside of 7, 8 seconds to go."


Also, Joe did take a timeout at one point during cleveland's 2nd half run..and he said during his post game presser that he was trying to call one on our last possession but the ref didn't see him..so let's not blow this out of proportion here and pretend like he didn't call any timeouts..
Nothing wrong with having a different opinion - as long as it's done respectfully. It'd be lame if we all agreed on everything :)
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Re: Even The Celts Cavn't Figured Out How to Win Em All! Loss vs CLE 3/5 

Post#115 » by CelticsPride18 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:31 am

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Which is funny because Tatum’s decision making can be eliminated by giving the ball to somebody else, but to do that it would take a non bum coach who actually isn’t scared to impact a game.


lol look at the superstars for other teams. Lakers vs Nuggets on Saturday not a single timeout was needed to execute down the stretch or special sets by Malone. Almost every ran through Jokic. Like it or not it’s on Tatum to display high level reads in pressure moments he’s not 19 anymore.


This post dies the minute you put Tatum in the same sentence as the greatest player in basketball.

And no it’s not on Tatum..or it doesn’t have to be..at least not all the time. You had 19 seconds, Tatum struggling you can easily put the ball somewhere else.


He has Garland midget ass on him and he can’t create a good shot. That’s on Tatum. If we to call a timeout every close game to call special sets for him we are ****
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Re: Even The Celts Cavn't Figured Out How to Win Em All! Loss vs CLE 3/5 

Post#116 » by ScottieJ » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:41 am

Still waiting for the time out boosters to produce a single shred of statistical evidence that indicates they make the slightest bit of difference. Only ever seen rhetoric as evidence to the contrary.
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Post#117 » by return2glory » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:46 am

Overall, Joe has been very good this season. This is one of the bad coaching games in a while.

Tatum is terrible in the 2nd half after a great 1st half. He didn't even go for the defensive rebound in the closing minutes where Wade got the put back dunk.

As much has Tatum and Brown have improved overall this season, especially over the last 2 months, it's games like this that have always scared me about them. When the going gets tough and it becomes close, they both crumble. I've been saying that for a few years now.

Jrue, White and KP have to get the ball more in closing minutes of close games.
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Re: Even The Celts Cavn't Figured Out How to Win Em All! Loss vs CLE 3/5 

Post#118 » by Bad-Thoma » Wed Mar 6, 2024 4:54 am

Trade everyone, sell the team, cryogenically freeze Brad and fire Ainge retroactively.

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Post#119 » by The Corey's » Wed Mar 6, 2024 5:08 am

Fierce1 wrote:Whiners are coming out because 11 straight games they were hiding. :lol:


That's not how it works bud.
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Post#120 » by The Corey's » Wed Mar 6, 2024 5:11 am

Green89 wrote:
Sweet Serenity wrote:You’d forget we were 48-13 with the 4th highest net rating of all time with the way you bunch whinge after a loss lol


Keep up the "I don't read posts here and just post" narrative. You're good at that. Or the, "we're previous champs and our current record and net rating automatically means we will win it all again this year and the next" narrative. Even better at that. Or the "we just had an 11 game win streak so this 1 loss on a last possession means nothing" narrative. You're actually the best at that.


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