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Post#1181 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Mar 5, 2024 11:21 am

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Post#1182 » by Mr_Mojo_Risin » Tue Mar 5, 2024 11:38 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:https://www.theringer.com/nba/2024/3/4/24090303/boston-celtics-jayson-tatum-jaylen-brown-winning-streak

Good article that succinctly says something I’ve been thinking for a number of years:
It’s become impossible to conceive of the team as anything more than what it’d been conceived as before.

I’ve thought this back in 2019 with Toronto, Denver last year and Celtics this year during conversations on here. People are always slow to trends and some are laughed at when they conceive of events beyond what has already happened before.
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Post#1184 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Mar 5, 2024 11:54 am

So it's not much as the Celtics are taking way too many threes. They've actually been shooting threes well. It's what happens to them when the other team tries to take away the threes. (This was Heat's strategy in the ECF. IINM, the games where we had our lowest 3-pt attempt rates are the games that we lost.)

This regular season, Celtics are just 5-4 when their 3-pt attempt rate is 40% and under. 43-8 otherwise. BTW, it's absurd that the Celtics only have 9 out of 60 games with an attempt rate of 40% or below. Only 10 teams take more than 40% of their FGAs from 3 as their average FOR THE SEASON. And we take that amount in 5 out of 6 games.
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Post#1185 » by 165bows » Tue Mar 5, 2024 12:35 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:So it's not much as the Celtics are taking way too many threes. They've actually been shooting threes well. It's what happens to them when the other team tries to take away the threes. (This was Heat's strategy in the ECF. IINM, the games where we had our lowest 3-pt attempt rates are the games that we lost.)

This regular season, Celtics are just 5-4 when their 3-pt attempt rate is 40% and under. 43-8 otherwise. BTW, it's absurd that the Celtics only have 9 out of 60 games with an attempt rate of 40% or below. Only 10 teams take more than 40% of their FGAs from 3 as their average FOR THE SEASON. And we take that amount in 5 out of 6 games.

That's why the Kristaps addition was so key (as well as Tatum improving his post-ups). Last year's loss was from way too many guys who could shot the three but only shoot the three - Brogdon falling apart at the seams accentuated it, but it was already built in. Heat just took advantage of it.
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Post#1187 » by BK_2020 » Tue Mar 5, 2024 1:46 pm

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zoyathedestroya wrote:So it's not much as the Celtics are taking way too many threes. They've actually been shooting threes well. It's what happens to them when the other team tries to take away the threes. (This was Heat's strategy in the ECF. IINM, the games where we had our lowest 3-pt attempt rates are the games that we lost.)

This regular season, Celtics are just 5-4 when their 3-pt attempt rate is 40% and under. 43-8 otherwise. BTW, it's absurd that the Celtics only have 9 out of 60 games with an attempt rate of 40% or below. Only 10 teams take more than 40% of their FGAs from 3 as their average FOR THE SEASON. And we take that amount in 5 out of 6 games.

That's why the Kristaps addition was so key (as well as Tatum improving his post-ups). Last year's loss was from way too many guys who could shot the three but only shoot the three - Brogdon falling apart at the seams accentuated it, but it was already built in. Heat just took advantage of it.

While we certainly leveled up and became more diverse this season, we still win the ECF if Jaylen doesn't choose the worst time to become the worst player in the NBA. If Jaylen is just normal bad we are 2-0 going into game 3, whatever Spo tries to do.
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Post#1189 » by zoyathedestroya » Tue Mar 5, 2024 3:40 pm

"Boston is 30-2 when it’s shot the league average or better from 3-point range. But it also has the league’s best record (18-10) when it’s shot worse than the league average."

Source: https://www.nba.com/news/power-rankings-2023-24-week-20

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Post#1190 » by Gant » Tue Mar 5, 2024 5:28 pm

zoyathedestroya wrote:"Boston is 30-2 when it’s shot the league average or better from 3-point range. But it also has the league’s best record (18-10) when it’s shot worse than the league average."

Source: https://www.nba.com/news/power-rankings-2023-24-week-20

Team knows how to win, three-ball or no. But they're almost unstoppable when the three-ball is on.


Here's a related stat: In wins the Celtics have averaged 42.4 three point attempts per game. In losses the Celtics have averaged 42.2 three point attempts per game.

3 point percentage in wins: 40.4%. 3 point percentage in losses: 31.4%. They average about four more 3 point makes in wins.
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Post#1191 » by Parliament10 » Tue Mar 5, 2024 6:54 pm

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Post#1192 » by GoCeltics123 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 2:27 pm

The TNT curse is back with this team.

The Celtics' record on ESPN/ABC this season is 11-1. On TNT, it's 3-5. And the Lakers/Cavs/GS terrible losses were all on TNT
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Post#1193 » by chakdaddy » Wed Mar 6, 2024 7:56 pm

Funny after the Tatum iso frustration - Facebook memories resurfaced this post of mine:

"Pacers minds were so blown that it wasn't a Pierce iso...so they couldnt guard uncle jeff green"
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Post#1194 » by keevsnick1 » Wed Mar 6, 2024 10:13 pm

The thing about the Celtics is that they are so good that the losses they do suffer will almost always be close, because they just don't get blown out or really even soundly beaten all that often.

The most likely outcomes for the C's this year are, in order: Win big, win small, lose small, lose big. The fact that all your losses are close makes the crunch time stuff seem bad, but in reality its just the only way you CAN lose. If they won 100% of close games they'd go like 78-4.
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Post#1198 » by BK_2020 » Thu Mar 7, 2024 11:40 am


I wish articles like this would stop being written. Is 1-12 bad compared to the league? How much worse? How much of it is just SSS noise? You need a reference point.
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Post#1199 » by Fierce1 » Thu Mar 7, 2024 12:40 pm

It's true that issue is a problem.

Hopefully Cs figure it out by April.

That's why I say next season is the highest chance the Cs win a chip.

As great as they are this season, there are still questions, including late game execution.

The good news is the Cs still have 1 month to get better.
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Post#1200 » by shackles10 » Thu Mar 7, 2024 3:51 pm

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Hadn't visited this thread in a few days, but that is a super amazing edit. Celtics media has done some solid videos this year. Especially enjoyed this and the black and white ones they do to jazz-like music (can't remember what they call that series).

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