theBigLip wrote:vege wrote:theBigLip wrote: I think the latter will actually happen, and maybe he grows into a rotational big. But again, it’s not that big of a deal.
Yes it actually is a huge deal. We are losing games because of Wiseman. He is a huge net negative. The difference between an end of bench NBA player and Wiseman is insane. Muscala on/off and Wiseman on/off is like 15 points.
https://craftednba.com/player-stats
If you look at BPM (box score plus minus), of course Wiseman is negative, as are half the players in the NBA. And of course Detroit players as a whole will be more negative than others since we’ve scored fewer points than our opponents.
That all being said, Wiseman is at -3.4 and Muscala is at -4.9. So I’m not sure what stats you’re looking at, but the ones I’m looking at say your last statement is wrong.
Stats help but are not the end all of player evaluation. The same player could have significantly different +/- depending on who he plays with (starters vs bench, etc).
And going back to my original point, Wiseman is still not that big of a deal. If you’re getting 10 mpg, how much does that really impact the final outcome? Not that much.
It's kinda impossible to have any sort of serious conversation with you and a few other guys. You refuse to see what's infront of you, you refuse to see reality.
Wiseman is not even a GLeague player, he is bad, like really bad.
Muscala is an end of bench NBA vet and he is 30 points better than Wiseman, not 15.