2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #421 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Thu Mar 7, 2024 9:51 pm

Mark_83 wrote:Imagine someone having so many bad draft takes that they had to create a completely new account just to wipe the slate clean.

Imagine looking for fights on an internet forum instead of coexisting peacefully

UnbelievablyRAW · Post #422 » by **UnbelievablyRAW** » Thu Mar 7, 2024 9:59 pm

Dilion Jones just dominating every game but doesn't get talked about. Reminds me of Brice Sensabough from last year

bballsparkin · Post #423 » by **bballsparkin** » Thu Mar 7, 2024 10:03 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:
bballsparkin wrote:
He looked nice the all star weekend. The young players tournament they had. That's my only time watching him. Nice defence I've seen the vids that have posted. He seems like a lock for the league to me. Not sure how high though.

Oh no doubt he is a lock for the league. I'm just struggling to see him become a legit player. I think he's a bigger project than Salaun.

A bigger project than Salaun? woah. Seems like he may sum up this draft in a nutshell. People are all over the place with opinions on who are at the top of the draft.

Mark_83 · Post #424 » by **Mark_83** » Thu Mar 7, 2024 10:07 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
Mark_83 wrote:Imagine someone having so many bad draft takes that they had to create a completely new account just to wipe the slate clean.

Imagine looking for fights on an internet forum instead of coexisting peacefully

Looks like I touched a nerve. :lol:

(The funny thing is I wasn't even talking about you, so you outed yourself. Now I'm curious).

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #425 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Thu Mar 7, 2024 10:40 pm

bballsparkin wrote:
ArthurVandelay wrote:
bballsparkin wrote:
He looked nice the all star weekend. The young players tournament they had. That's my only time watching him. Nice defence I've seen the vids that have posted. He seems like a lock for the league to me. Not sure how high though.

Oh no doubt he is a lock for the league. I'm just struggling to see him become a legit player. I think he's a bigger project than Salaun.

A bigger project than Salaun? woah. Seems like he may sum up this draft in a nutshell. People are all over the place with opinions on who are at the top of the draft.

I follow some pretty interesting voices on social media and you wouldn't believe the variance in opinions at this point of the year that I've seen. The two most hotly debated players this year are Stephon Castle and Johnny Furphy just because I have seen people who believe they range from 3 to 20's for Castle and top 5 to late 2nd round for Furphy. My thoughts about this draft class are constantly changing and right now only Topic and Sarr have held steady where I envisioned them but my ideas are shaping up with more info absorbed every day. A lot of players are making late season pushes showing flashes that they previously had not such as Collier, Missi and Ware whereas a lot of guys have cooled down. Draft night could be very unpredictable and interesting once we get past the first 3 or 4 selections.

ArthurVandelay · Post #426 » by **ArthurVandelay** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 12:30 am

bballsparkin wrote:
ArthurVandelay wrote:
bballsparkin wrote:
He looked nice the all star weekend. The young players tournament they had. That's my only time watching him. Nice defence I've seen the vids that have posted. He seems like a lock for the league to me. Not sure how high though.

Oh no doubt he is a lock for the league. I'm just struggling to see him become a legit player. I think he's a bigger project than Salaun.

A bigger project than Salaun? woah. Seems like he may sum up this draft in a nutshell. People are all over the place with opinions on who are at the top of the draft.

He’s struggled of late but he’s the same player with the same potential all these “experts” were drooling by over a few weeks ago.

He has a prototypical frame for an NBA wing/stretch 4. His body is already developed and strong, and he’s only 18.5. His stroke is pure. You can work with that.

Buzelis you’re hoping he not only develops his skills but also physically.

Psubs · Post #427 » by **Psubs** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 1:37 am

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Dilion Jones just dominating every game but doesn't get talked about. Reminds me of Brice Sensabough from last year

I brought him up as a #32 candidate. :nod:

Could Jones be a bigger Malcolm Brogdon? Maybe worse 3pt shooter? :-?

Gamble high upside project with the Pacers pick.

ArthurVandelay · Post #428 » by **ArthurVandelay** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 1:42 am

Salaun latest game March 6

Watch on YouTube

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #429 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 1:54 am

ArthurVandelay wrote:
bballsparkin wrote:
ArthurVandelay wrote:
Oh no doubt he is a lock for the league. I'm just struggling to see him become a legit player. I think he's a bigger project than Salaun.

A bigger project than Salaun? woah. Seems like he may sum up this draft in a nutshell. People are all over the place with opinions on who are at the top of the draft.

He’s struggled of late but he’s the same player with the same potential all these “experts” were drooling by over a few weeks ago.

He has a prototypical frame for an NBA wing/stretch 4. His body is already developed and strong, and he’s only 18.5. His stroke is pure. You can work with that.

Buzelis you’re hoping he not only develops his skills but also physically.

Fair assessment. His assertiveness and IQ on the offensive end seems a lot better than on the defensive end. At some point he'll be worth taking a shot on.

bballsparkin · Post #430 » by **bballsparkin** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 2:04 am

ArthurVandelay wrote:
He’s struggled of late but he’s the same player with the same potential all these “experts” were drooling by over a few weeks ago.

He has a prototypical frame for an NBA wing/stretch 4. His body is already developed and strong, and he’s only 18.5. His stroke is pure. You can work with that.

Buzelis you’re hoping he not only develops his skills but also physically.

Yeah I would be down with Salaun. I wouldn't go top 4 for him. Or for Buz for that matter. If the FO were to I could get on board for either. To me it seems like Topic and Sarr are no brainers. It seems folks have simmered on Zacch. Sheppard, Dillingham and Castle seem like good money bets. And I liked the videos posted here of Holland.

As to Buz, I may have been swayed by his stellar play Friday All-Star night and the defence shown in vids posted here. Which is why I was surprised with the project comment.

Fansince95 · Post #431 » by **Fansince95** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 5:04 am

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Dilion Jones just dominating every game but doesn't get talked about. Reminds me of Brice Sensabough from last year

These guys never project well in the NBA. They need to be the guy to be effective and they'll never have that role in the NBA.

You need to find guys who have a specific skill that is dominant. Someone who fits a role

Mark_83 · Post #432 » by **Mark_83** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 9:07 am

Watch on YouTube

Psubs · Post #433 » by **Psubs** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 2:53 pm

Mark_83 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

If guys like Channing Frye and Jordan Hill can be drafted in the top 10, Ware should be drafted 8-12 like Brook Lopez at 10.

Yallbecrazy · Post #434 » by **Yallbecrazy** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 2:54 pm

binjumper wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:

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Post#1054 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat Feb 3, 2024 10:04 pm

Sheppard's full court passing is Kevin Love-esque in terms of willingness to make those passes and accuracy.

Still have to keep expectations reasonable when it comes to his overall outlook though but it's a cool part of Sheppard's game.

This is also a very bad pass to be throwing in the NBA. It will get picked off 9/10 times.

??? I'm trying to wrap my head around this comment.
I'm sure he wouldn't have made the pass if it wasn't open.

UnbelievablyRAW · Post #435 » by **UnbelievablyRAW** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 2:58 pm

Mark_83 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Not gonna be shocked if he goes lottery. I like Dunn with the Pacers pick but Ware probably a top 3 C in this draft imo and one of the few that can credibly shoot AND score at the rim.

Tough choices ahead. Again hoping Jak or BB are moved for another pick in the FR so we can get both.

IQ/Dick/Dunn/Scottie/Ware is a nasty lineup with only 1 real complete non-shooter. Between Dunn, Scottie and Ware, the defense would also be solid. Move IQ out for Barret or Ochai and let Scottie be PG and the defense is even more lethal.

ArthurVandelay · Post #436 » by **ArthurVandelay** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 4:28 pm

If Cody Williams’ brother isn’t Jalen, is he a top 5 mocked draft pick?

I’m going to say no.

WuTang_CMB · Post #437 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 4:28 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:If Cody Williams’ brother isn’t Jalen, is he a top 5 mocked draft pick?

I’m going to say no.

he has dropped off a lot

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #438 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 4:47 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:If Cody Williams’ brother isn’t Jalen, is he a top 5 mocked draft pick?

I’m going to say no.

Ever since he put the mask on he has looked awful but something I realized early on and I brought this up a few times, is that if you look at the DRTG of the teams he went up against early in the year, the vast majority were awful defensive teams. If you couple that with his poor track record as a shooter, FT%, him looking slow, at times sloppy and really not too interested in applying himself on defense, it all amounts to him not being anywhere near the player his brother is and someone who has a ton of work to do just to become an ok player and then pray they further develop on top of that to reach some kind of fictitious Paul George ceiling that people are using a ton of imagination to justify taking him top 3.

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #439 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 4:51 pm

I really hope someone is going to compile a video of Rob Dillingham's defense on every single opponent possession this year, would make his evaluation a lot easier.

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #440 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 5:02 pm

Does anyone else think that Stephon Castle's NBA role could be that of RJ Barrett yet it's a difficult model to achieve success with at the NBA level? He's going to have to become a very good shooter to make it work and even if he does there will be a limitation to his efficiency as a starter even if his ball protection, secondary facilitating and defense all end up superior to Barrett's which they project to be.

There might be some small chance he could operate as a PG to justify taking him high but I don't see it. Still, he seems to have good basketball instincts and plays a mature game that starts with his defense which bodes well for him finding a way to stick in the NBA in some capacity.

If anyone can convince me that he's a PG in the NBA I'm willing to listen. His herky jerky movement and balance/body-control is very nice but he's a bit slow and doesn't have the best passing instincts, averaged 4.8 AST/G in HS and was heavily score-first as a guard. He's an interesting player but falls a bit flat in my mind right now.