Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread

[CZ Eddie]

What's he saying?
I'm not going to give him my click dollars to find out.

[Knightro]

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[JoshuaPotter]

Anybody have that gif / meme of Paolo Banchero being a train and flying into outer space? Could use that hype train about now.

[jezzerinho]

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Imagine if we cut down on our turnovers.

[drsd]

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What jumps out at me is that Washington is labelled "The Generals" (bottom left). That's priceless!

[basketballRob]

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[p0peye]

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Last 10 games. See, this is where you wanna bring that strength of schedule metric into focus.

[eyriq]

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[basketballRob]

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It's pretty obvious Wendell doesn't come up with too many contested rebounds.

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[basketballRob]

It's looking more like Franz may not get the full max. He doesn't show up when the other team ratchets up playoff-type defense. Paolo's offense stays the same. If they load up the paint and Franz can't hit an outside shot, he can be taken out of a game. They've been leaving him open on the perimeter. Giannis is a better outside shooter this season.

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[Skybox]

It's looking more like Franz may not get the full max. He doesn't show up when the other team ratchets up playoff-type defense. Paolo's offense stays the same. If they load up the paint and Franz can't hit an outside shot, he can be taken out of a game. They've been leaving him open on the perimeter. Giannis is a better outside shooter this season.

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He never was. He's a really good player. He'll get a LOT of money. He's not and never was a max player. There's not really that many.

[pepe1991]

He may not be max player now, but are you sure he won't get one, and are you sure that he would not get upset if he does not get one?
He is 20 ppg player at age of 22, who is btw, basketball World Champion.

Even if it's not max ( Desmond Bane got one) we are still talking about ballpark of 5 years $150M

[byeganyo]

I think we are going to hang on the 6th seed, so Franz will have the chance to show what he is made of in the play offs. If he has subpar series i think the management may gain the upper hand in negotiating his extension in the summer. Or maybe it wont matter, who knows.

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[basketballRob]

He may not be max player now, but are you sure he won't get one, and are you sure that he would not get upset if he does not get one?
He is 20 ppg player at age of 22, who is btw, basketball World Champion.

Even if it's not max ( Desmond Bane got one) we are still talking about ballpark of 5 years $150M

Desmond Bane was better. I think their are only around 30 max contracts in the league. Bane is a 42% 3-pt shooter averaging 22 ppg when he got an extension. Franz is under 30% from 3.

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[byeganyo]

So 4 rookies from the class of 2017 got the max - Donovan Mitchell, Jayson Tatum (Celtics), Bam Adebayo (Heat) and De’Aaron Fox
projected value of $163,000,590 for 5 seasons. Then OG Anunoby (Raptors), Derrick White (Spurs) and Jonathan Isaac got around 70 millions for 4 seasons.

Class of 2018 - 4 rookies again got the max - Luka Doncic (Mavericks), Trae Young (Hawks), Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (Thunder), Michael Porter Jr. Projected value of $172,500,000. Jaren Jackson Jr. (Grizzlies) got 4 seasons - $104,720,000. A fairly good deal for Memphis and bad for Denver, but then Denver won it all...

Class of 2019 Only 3 players - Ja Morant (Grizzlies), Darius Garland (Cavaliers), Zion Williamson (Pelicans) Projected value of $194,300,000. None of them so far has earned it, but it is what is is. Jordan Poole (Warriors) and Tyler Herro (Heat) got 120 m for 4 years.

Class of 2020 3 players again - LaMelo Ball (Hornets), Anthony Edwards (Timberwolves) and Tyrese Haliburton (Pacers), Projected value of $216,953,495. Desmond Bane (Grizzlies) got 5 years and $197,230,450, Devin Vassell (Spurs): and Jaden McDaniels (Timberwolves) gor a bit more than 130 m for 5 years.

So Franz is probably getting more like 200 m for 5 seasons at the very least, Suggs at least 100 m.

[basketballRob]

So 4 rookies from the class of 2017 got the max - Donovan Mitchell, Jayson Tatum (Celtics), Bam Adebayo (Heat) and De’Aaron Fox
projected value of $163,000,590 for 5 seasons. Then OG Anunoby (Raptors), Derrick White (Spurs) and Jonathan Isaac got around 70 millions for 4 seasons.

Class of 2018 - 4 rookies again got the max - Luka Doncic (Mavericks), Trae Young (Hawks), Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (Thunder), Michael Porter Jr. Projected value of $172,500,000. Jaren Jackson Jr. (Grizzlies) got 4 seasons - $104,720,000. A fairly good deal for Memphis and bad for Denver, but then Denver won it all...

Class of 2019 Only 3 players - Ja Morant (Grizzlies), Darius Garland (Cavaliers), Zion Williamson (Pelicans) Projected value of $194,300,000. None of them so far has earned it, but it is what is is. Jordan Poole (Warriors) and Tyler Herro (Heat) got 120 m for 4 years.

Class of 2020 3 players again - LaMelo Ball (Hornets), Anthony Edwards (Timberwolves) and Tyrese Haliburton (Pacers), Projected value of $216,953,495. Desmond Bane (Grizzlies) got 5 years and $197,230,450, Devin Vassell (Spurs): and Jaden McDaniels (Timberwolves) gor a bit more than 130 m for 5 years.

So Franz is probably getting more like 200 m for 5 seasons at the very least, Suggs at least 100 m.

It's probably more like 5 years at around $30m per season. Suggs at around $80m.

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[byeganyo]

So 4 rookies from the class of 2017 got the max - Donovan Mitchell, Jayson Tatum (Celtics), Bam Adebayo (Heat) and De’Aaron Fox
projected value of $163,000,590 for 5 seasons. Then OG Anunoby (Raptors), Derrick White (Spurs) and Jonathan Isaac got around 70 millions for 4 seasons.

Class of 2018 - 4 rookies again got the max - Luka Doncic (Mavericks), Trae Young (Hawks), Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (Thunder), Michael Porter Jr. Projected value of $172,500,000. Jaren Jackson Jr. (Grizzlies) got 4 seasons - $104,720,000. A fairly good deal for Memphis and bad for Denver, but then Denver won it all...

Class of 2019 Only 3 players - Ja Morant (Grizzlies), Darius Garland (Cavaliers), Zion Williamson (Pelicans) Projected value of $194,300,000. None of them so far has earned it, but it is what is is. Jordan Poole (Warriors) and Tyler Herro (Heat) got 120 m for 4 years.

Class of 2020 3 players again - LaMelo Ball (Hornets), Anthony Edwards (Timberwolves) and Tyrese Haliburton (Pacers), Projected value of $216,953,495. Desmond Bane (Grizzlies) got 5 years and $197,230,450, Devin Vassell (Spurs): and Jaden McDaniels (Timberwolves) gor a bit more than 130 m for 5 years.

So Franz is probably getting more like 200 m for 5 seasons at the very least, Suggs at least 100 m.

It's probably more like 5 years at around $30m per season. Suggs at around $80m.

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If Bane got 200m in 2023, Franz is not getting 25% less while the cap is going up, he'll refuse to sign.

[basketballRob]

So 4 rookies from the class of 2017 got the max - Donovan Mitchell, Jayson Tatum (Celtics), Bam Adebayo (Heat) and De’Aaron Fox
projected value of $163,000,590 for 5 seasons. Then OG Anunoby (Raptors), Derrick White (Spurs) and Jonathan Isaac got around 70 millions for 4 seasons.

Class of 2018 - 4 rookies again got the max - Luka Doncic (Mavericks), Trae Young (Hawks), Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (Thunder), Michael Porter Jr. Projected value of $172,500,000. Jaren Jackson Jr. (Grizzlies) got 4 seasons - $104,720,000. A fairly good deal for Memphis and bad for Denver, but then Denver won it all...

Class of 2019 Only 3 players - Ja Morant (Grizzlies), Darius Garland (Cavaliers), Zion Williamson (Pelicans) Projected value of $194,300,000. None of them so far has earned it, but it is what is is. Jordan Poole (Warriors) and Tyler Herro (Heat) got 120 m for 4 years.

Class of 2020 3 players again - LaMelo Ball (Hornets), Anthony Edwards (Timberwolves) and Tyrese Haliburton (Pacers), Projected value of $216,953,495. Desmond Bane (Grizzlies) got 5 years and $197,230,450, Devin Vassell (Spurs): and Jaden McDaniels (Timberwolves) gor a bit more than 130 m for 5 years.

So Franz is probably getting more like 200 m for 5 seasons at the very least, Suggs at least 100 m.

It's probably more like 5 years at around $30m per season. Suggs at around $80m.

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If Bane got 200m in 2023, Franz is not getting 25% less while the cap is going up, he'll refuse to sign.

Bane is a better player. Jaren Jackson is probably a better player and got 4 years $104m.

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[byeganyo]

OK, but how you put this in on the table - we think Bane is 25% better than you, so here is our offer.
Franz will leave and we will get nothing.

JJJ got 100 m 4 years ago and the cap keeps on expanding.